I own a COLT CZC and can say ive had none of the problems above and dealership are really friendly showed me how to fit all my accesories and gets them next day for me too.
One thing i will say not that this is a issue to new cars but owning a car which the top comes down takes a lot of maintenance like lubricating joints and also using special cleaner for the seals this will protect the the car from leaks.
Tho needless to say you dont do this on a new car its more of a general maintenance thing every couple of months so indeed is a strange fault.
Though i am a trained car valeter so know how to keep seals etc in tip top.
Overall i can give mitsubushi local to me 5 star for service there email service was also quick to with a 2 day reply
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Is this lubricating of joints and application of seal cleaner something which the owner has to do for him/herself and it is detailed in the handbook or is something that is done as part of a dealer service? Lots of similar problems with Focus convertibles; did I read that they aren't being built anymore and dealers have bought them back from disgruntled owners?
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Mitsubishi UK up to their tricks still, a shame really as they could sell a great deal more cars if they pulled their socks up. I'd buy another Colt quite happily still, a few things make it for me, space, 1.1 engine, MPG & price.
Service is dire but as mine has never seen the inside of a dealers facilities, I'm very happy apart from the rattles, which I've lived with and don't bother me so much any more.
Edited by carl_a on 26/01/2009 at 22:10
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Hello badgirl..
I was just seeing how you are still getting on with you CZC as I have been looking at getting one myself. Are you still getting the water leak?
Regards
Matt
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Bumped because I want to know how all those CZC owners are getting on. There were enormous posts last year and lots of praise for the car. Why the silence?
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obviously some of you have had bad experiences but it is generally the case that people who have bad experiences with things make the most 'noise' rightly so, but to say i am not going to buy another mitsubishi whatsoever just because of one model is a little strange, you may not find it too suprising that i am a mitsubishi technician and although they are not perfect by any stretch of the imagination they really are not as bad as some of you are making out, yes we have had a few problems with the roof and affiliated parts, windows and boot, but the rest of the car, being colt 5dr based, is sound, i would go as far as saying that the 04-08MY colt being the 2nd most reliable car in the range after the 05-08MY lancer. you do literally, rattles aside, have next to no problems, i bought one myself i was that confident, done 50k in mine now and is out of warranty and going to keep it because im that confident. i hope the problem experienced with bad girl has been resolved now, but to tarnish everything with the same brush, although frustrated, isnt really right.
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I think that the balance is that 1 leaking convertible out of hundreds is no major problem to Mitsubisihi. However to the owner, it is a huge problem as it may be their only car, they can't take it out in the wet and they don't seem to be able to get it fixed. To them as an individual it is a huge, 100% problem!
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Yikes.
We have just picked up a new Colt CZ2 AMT and are as pleased as Punch with it (so far)
I am the most cynical awkward Alain b'astard there is and I tried, and how I tried to find a fault, A. with the product and B, with the service to no avail I am afraid. To say it was all faultless is an understatement and to anyone who knows me they won't believe these words.
Anyone that knows me will also know that should a problem occur where they (the dealer) does not "Play the Game" then they will suffer and subsequently lose the argument and I WILL be placed in the position I was in prior to the problem without fail. Sensible adverse publicity can work well, but shouting and screaming will not work at all.
I am alarmed at the amount of complaints here about MITSI and am wondering about how I will be treated initially if there is a problem.
For now I love the car to bits having come out of aged big fast (ish) saloons and see no reason to return to the 'lardy' days. It ticks almost every box.
I hope your problems get sorted.
Very best regards,
Martin in North Devon.
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1970badgirl, take the car to a different Mitsubishi dealer. Your inability to get the car rectified is probably merely due to the low level of competence of one or more of your current dealer's employees. You may well fare better at another dealer. I'm sure the right person can cure the problem.
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to say i am not going to buy another mitsubishi whatsoever just because of one model is a little strange
In these cases it's usually not the fault with the car itself which causes the greatest dismay, but they way the issue is handled by the dealer (and by the manufacturer if they get involved).
We had issues with the dealer we bought our Colt CZ1 from, and Colt Car Company, who were the importers for Mitsubishi up until a year or so ago, were useless and rude. I gather Mitsubishi are now in direct charge so maybe things have changed?
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i would have to agree, you should take it to another dealer, we have ourselves had a czc come into us for us to fix because another dealer could not, although not because of a leak but wind noise, sorry all czc and most cabrio owners they do have wind noise, its a convertable. we managed to decrease the noise and had a happy customer, so yes try changing dealer.
the colt car company is still the name of the importer in the uk, but has now been taken over by mitsubishi corporation, mitsubishi corporation owns mitsubishi motors i believe, strange that mitsubishi europe hasnt bought the colt car company out, but this is where we are at, it should bring better service from the whole network, but dealers are under enormous financial strain at the minute, believe it or not from your labour rate, but as you are aware car sales are not exactly booming at the minute, not that there is much money in selling the things either, so staff shortages are common place.
and yes the colt is a good car, its just a shame that some have had bad experiences, although it didnt help that pininfarina finished the product off, not that we had many problems with the shogun pinin though (also made by pinifarina) unfortunatly italians do not make very reliable cars, yes they look great but i wouldnt want to own one after working on them, it could be worse you could have a french car, :)
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Like others my beautiful CZC leaks and Mitsubishi seem unabel to fix the problem, so I'd appreciate some advice!
The roof started leaking about 18 months from new. Under the warranty, my nearest Mitsubishi garage looked at it a few times and fiddled with window adjustment etc, but it continued to leak in heavy rain. Towards the end of the warranty period, after several visits and ineffective "repairs" they eventually called in the "CZC specialist" and replaced the roof seals. Mitsubishi HQ informed me that the repair was only guaranteed for the duration of the 3 year warranty and they were not prepared to give me extended warranty for the roof. Unwillingly, but I thought it necessary, I took out an additional year's warranty. Typically, the roof only started leaking again after that warranty expired (and I hadn't renewed it, foolishly believing that the roof was fixed).
I took the car off the road this winter and stored it in a garage (thankfully, considering the weather). I am now trying to fix the problem again. The Mitsubishi garage investigated the problem, adjusted the windows, confirmed that the seals are in good order and said that it didn't leak when tested. However, heavy rain 3 days later confirms that it is still leaking.
I have had the car from new since July 2009 (it's only done 13K miles), it's leaked from about 18 months old and is still leaking. I love the car, but I feel that it is a "lemon" - it is not fit for purpose, i.e. unsuited to UK weather conditions. What legal rights do I have and how should I pursue this? Advice please... thank you.
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Have you tried taking the car to a car-roof specialist, such as Car Hoods Northern (check their website). They recently replaced the roof on my 205 (soft-top, not tin-top). So far the car is fully watertight, and the roof is such a tight fit that it is impossible to make the car rattle over bumps (the downside is that it is hard work latching the roof down).
As specialists they get a lot of insurance roof replacement work - when my car was in, they had cars from darn sarf with roof damage from winter storms (their place is in Lymm).
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Thanks for the advice, I hadn't thought about a roof specialist.
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I have an 07 plate Focus cabrio, one of the hard top cabrios with the worst reputation for roof leaks. I have clearly been VERY lucky! Years ago it had all the seals replaced under a manufacturer recall and since then I have not had a drop of water get in, despite torrential rain, pressure washing and drive thru car washes. The hand book does recommend closing the roof with the car parked on the level, to minimize body flex I suppose. I use a proprietary rubber seal treatment called Gummi Pflege which I find on ebay @ £5 and there is a costly one made by Swiss Vax @ £40 - I doubt that it is 8 times better! I also use a light spray grease on all the pivots and hinges twice a year. Ford also have some Main Dealers with a roof specialist at a special price = £90/hour. Obviously any sort of rear shunt is going to wreck the geometry of the fold mechanism, in any of these cars and I doubt it could be repaired to a 100% standard.
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