Race re-run Sunday 1130-1330 ITV1
FIA ruling - just in case Ferrari don't win.
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Hamilton was interviewed on 5 live criticising Alonso's lack of loyalty to the team. In the present climate I would be surprised if he took the decision to make a remark that would increase the tension between himself and his team-mate, I couldn't help wondering if Ron put him up to it as a way of having a dig?
Either way, I would be surprised if McLaren had the same driver lineup next season.
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This has to have been best race all season - edge of seat for two hours -- Had to feel sorry for Webber.
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Yes, and after the poor bloke had been uncle dick in his hat as well. He certainly gets his share of bad luck.
Impressive from Hamilton in his first seriously wet race - but contrast to Webber he had the rub of the green when Kubica ran into him.
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Just watched it. Been avoiding news reports all day. Glad I also set the Sky+ box to record the programme that followed as well because of past problems where ITV cannot sort out their EPG times to extend programmes that overun.
Excellent race.
I wonder if the language of the owner of Red Bull was as colourful as Mark Webbers?
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And on a course he hadn't seen until a few days before the race! The man has gonads of steel, if not titanium to save weight!
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And on a course he hadn't seen until a few days before the race!
Same applied to the other 21 drivers as well.
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Shows much I know! I guess it has been used before but so long ago that none of the current drivers had seen it or was a genuine 'first'
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Fuji was last used in 1978ish, when Villeneuve crashed into the crowd, killing spectators. Britons will of course remember that it was at this circuit in 1976 that James Hunt clinched his championship in a similarly wet race.
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Fuji is still used in the Japanese domestic motor racing calendar, and as somebody commentated over the weekend, some of the drivers DO have experience there.
As mentioned elsewhere, it was the raceway where Niki Luda withdrew in 1976, due to torrential rain - thus giving the title to James Hunt, as well as severely annoying Messrs Ferrari!
Great race, I thought... and how we laughed at Louise Goodman and Mark Webber...
"We don't need that filthy language!"
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Great race, but that pink fluffy dice Allen shouted over Brundle as Hamilton held up Alonso before the SC pull in. I think MB was about to say Hamilton was out of order doing what he was doing. I would love to know if that was the case. Instead, we were treated to a list of positions, which funnily enough hadn't changed in 19 laps under the safety car. He should know when to shut up.
That aside this race almost had me up at 0530 watch; a bottle of red saw to that, but it is becoming interesting. The final lap with Massa was absolutely brilliant, the way the racing should be and used to be when it was good.
Will be rooting for Lewis in China, shame that running Alonso off the circuit wouldn't win the championship for him....
Oh, and Button looked like a bit of a chump complaining about the weather, the stewards, the car, his team, in fact anything apart from his ability....ever since he got that goatee he seems to think he's better than his performances and record would suggest.
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>> And on a course he hadn't seen until a few days before the race!
Same applied to the other 21 drivers as well.
I thought some had seen raced on it - but not in F1 cars - they interviewed a couple of drivers.
Hamilton was seriously impressive all weekend.
At least Alonso didn't try to make excuses and seems resigned to losing his crown unless Hamilton has major problems in both remaining races
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Good race and all that. I find myself though, becoming a little tired of LH & the butter wouldn't melt , slightly teacher's pet persona. My respect for Alonso went up a few notches - he comes across as being a bit more 'human' than his team-mate. Big rispekk for all those drivers - however much they earn, driving at 150+ mph with minimal vision requires considerable bottle.
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I'd like Lewis Hamilton a lot more if he displayed a bit more humility and didn't resort to all that frenetic pumping of the air. A modest wave would be quite sufficient. He'd do well to take a few lessons from behaviour of the such gentlemen as Graham Hill, Jim Clark, Stirling Moss, Jackie Stewart etc.
Who started the air-pumping craze anyway?
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Who started the air-pumping craze anyway?
Historically attributed (from: 'Things you didn't Know about Luton' by Allun Pardue) to Brian
Westmacott when playing for Luton Town FC in Southern Area (later Vauxhall Conference)
League play-offs in 1969, after scoring a late goal to secure victory over the St. Albans Centurions.
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Whether he pulls off the title or not, what Lewis Hamilton has achieved this year is just remarkable! Despite the incessant whining from the Spaniard who he has simply outdriven all season, despite the dirty tricks campaign from Ferrari, and despite the attention of the turnpikes in the gutter press, he's gone out there and done the job, shown unwavering loyalty to his team, and unlike another young British driver, hasn't resorted to badmouthing or mud slinging.
I wish him all the success in the world. F1 will eventually turn him into an arrogant prima-donna just like it does everyone else, but for now he's alright. I'll be cheering him on right to the end.
Cheers
DP
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Can't think why everyone thinks it was a good race. Half boring procession, half spray cloud. It's true there was plenty of incident, but not the sort you watch really.
The right man won. Alonso was very rational and cool when interviewed after the race. Poor Mark Webber, rotten luck (and rotten luck for the sprog who ran into him too).
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I've taken to Sky plussing (if its not a verb, it should be!) the Grand Prix.
I can have a leisurely Sunday lunch, and then fast forward through the boring bits to watch the good bits (cynics would say "the adverts").
Nineteen laps of safety car action at 12X speed actually looks exciting!
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"Nineteen laps of safety car action at 12X speed actually looks exciting!"
I watch most races at between 4x and 6x speed. It has the added bonus of silencing James Allen.....
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Poor Mark Webber rotten luck (and rotten luck for the sprog who ran into him too).
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Following an investigation by the stewards, it was decided that Vettel had breached Article 16.1 of the F1 Sporting Regulations, for causing a collision, so will be docked 10 places at his next race.
Vettel earlier apologized to Webber about the incident and claimed he had been caught out by Lewis Hamilton braking heavily ahead of the pair of them.
"I was behind Lewis (Hamilton) and Mark (Webber) in the safety car phase and I was exiting Turn 13 and saw Lewis going really, really slow all of a sudden," he said. "I reacted and I was not on full power at the time, and at the same moment I was looking back to the front I was in Mark's rear.
"I think he reacted to Lewis, to not pass him but of course it is a shame. We were very, very strong in the race, we were very, very fast and we would have managed to finish on the podium easily."
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Whether he pulls off the title or not what Lewis Hamilton has achieved this year is just remarkable!
I quite agree. To win one race in year one is remarkable. To lead the pack this late in the season is incredible. He seems a very pleasant lad to me. Good luck to him.
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I was one of the crazies to get up for the 5:30 kick off and despite the safety car issue, it was still interesting and had me watching far more intently than normal. This season has woken up my interest again and next year looks to be well worth a few early mornings if this one is anything to go by.
LH may have a touch of arrogance about him, but he isnt stupid - he knows he's good but he is still quite modest and lets not forget he is still very young and prone to excitability, so what, who wasnt at 21?
Let him punch the air, he is setting records and performing way beyond expectation, unlike our other british drivers.
I for one cant wait to see him win the championship, he is very deserving. Atleast he isnt deliberately parking his car on corners or trying to settled the championship by driving into Alonso, unlike someone else who now hides in the background at Ferrari may have done.
I for one would like to see a few more wet races, its the unpredictability that makes it so watchable.
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Surprised nobody else said this... Alonso brought in for a pit stop first and let out in traffic. Hamilton brought in next and let out in front of traffic. Did the team engineer the margin we all wanted? And then Alonso crashed himself anyway.
Lewis Hamilton drove well in the conditions but surprised how well Ferrari did after so man stops. Maybe in the dry they would have been a real challenge.
As for really good driving, Button was pretty fast without the front wing... that took some skill. Put him in the Mclaren next season and see who's better? Him or Lewis?
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Surprised nobody else said this... Alonso brought in for a pit stop first and let out in traffic. Hamilton brought in next and let out in front of traffic. Did the team engineer the margin we all wanted?
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IIRC Alonso had a poor IN lap ( later reported he went off track ?) thus screwing it up so he did not emerge in front of the traffic that was planned to occur. So no blame on the team.
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This made me smile.
Zillions of ££s spent but Ferrari depend on an email to tell them to use wet tyres.
As Brundle said " WE knew" re wet tyres so how come Ferrari did not?
Their excuse below
Ferrari's complaint that it only found out after the race that the FIA had forbidden cars to start the race without extreme wet tyres.
"The message reached the other ten teams," Haug, competition director for McLaren's engine and equity partner Mercedes, told German television.
"Ferrari always excite themselves when they do not win," said the German. "That is not new," he told the broadcaster RTL.
Haug refused to speculate as to how the FIA stewards' email about the rule change only arrived in sporting boss Stefano Domenicali's laptop inbox nearly 90 minutes too late.
"I am not the Ferrari press person - I have no idea what they were doing at noon," he added.
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Email was not needed was it? Conditions so bad they start behind the safety car. Had it been dry enough there would have been a normal start and even then on "wet tyres" or "extreme wets" as they are now called.
Safety car used for safety and it was out a while :-) But Ferrari did not do so bad despite the many stops which they could have avoided. And the drive through penalty (done twice due to doing it when SC out?) for Massa.
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This may be a stupid question. But why start a "race" behind a safety car? If it is considered too unsafe to drive / race, then why not delay the start until conditions improve?
Was it a case of using the cars tyres to clear the track?
You would not have a football match where, for the first 30 minutes, no team is allowed to pass, tackle or score?
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Suspect you are right in thinking car tyres used to dry out the track. The move a lot of water with those extreme wet tyres.
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The many millions of people watching on TV - and the advertisers and sponsors.
"The show must go on". Remember, this is entertainment, not sport!
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You would not have a football match where for the first 30 minutes no team is allowed to pass tackle or score?
You're not an Arsenal fan then.
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