Just watched this programme. They were all clapping the fat bloke because he negotiated a 'great' deal on a used £20'000 Mercedes.........he got 12 months tax thrown in, but no reduction in price!
Wish I'd got him in when I bought my new car. With negotiating skills like that, it makes the £7000 I got off look like amateur night :D
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While it has got better as the new series has gone along the 'used car roadshow' remains a joke- just not a very funny one.
The forced clapping because a car has depreciated being just one of the mawkish, horrible things about the program.
It's set a new low for motoring programs in my opinion. Also the lack of personal charisma of personal comments snipped PU*and his eighties throwback, jean suit wearing snip sidekick Penny is almost breathtaking............
I much prefer the low key approach of the program featuring the typical car dealer Charlie and his picking a couple of motors at auction for some people. Can't remember then name of it and the production values aren't high but at least it doesn't have pretensions like UCR.
*Complaint made and acted upon - PU
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Thing was, UCR was OK in previous series when it went out and about -- but since they changed to a studio format it has sunk like a stone. Also, how can it be still called a "roadshow" when it's now stuck in one place?
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think maybe theyre trying for a topgearish thing but their hanger is for model planes. still, the rspca will be happy no cat swinging done there(sorry).
i think this progs histerical, especially the 1st week of dolly totty bird at the auction with the
small-time dealer. her squeals of excitement when his target car arrived in the bull ring musta been a real boon. if ida been him ida killed her
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Not being a great fan of tv and especially the antique/house buying type ones a new idea for a motoring related one might be inspired by this (in a reverse way).
Get 2 teams of a couple of non motor trade "charlies" and give them a budget of £ 1000 and allow them to buy car and do work as needed and resell for a profit.
All the motor traders do it daily and make such vast amounts it must be easy !
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Already been done yorkiebar -- there was a M&M programme called "Car Duel" I think which did just that. I believe it may have originally been a regional programme shown in the Central TV area.
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I find the lack of facts/tips irritating - i want to learn something, but all there seems to be is a rather uncritical look at shiny motors & vague references to book values - no pros/cons about the cars (esp. in used form - when long term reliability/problems are more important) or buying/selling technique.
Last week the Merc for example, the 'classic' "Oh, we've just reduced that from £X , to £X-n, Sir.. blah blah.." makes me laugh. "Well", I say, "co-incidentally, I've just this last week reduced the trade-in value on mine too!"
The guy makes me wince, the way he smirks on & off to the audience as they think he's doing some amazing deal & turning the the flummoxed car dealer on his head, while the admiring Penny sends him Cupid's arrows looks...groan..
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Hi Old Hand cannot remember name of the program with the guy buying from auction for other people,but its a good laugh.The look on the young lads face who wanted a sporty run around and got a diesel Metro,because it was economical+cheap to insure was a picture.Also wish he would take his wax jacket off!!!
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I remembered the name "Sold in 60 seconds"
I think the wax jacket is half Charlie's on screen persona so it should stay!
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I have a feeling I was in school with him
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This show is complete rubbish, the deals they get are poor and the cars they get are not the best choices.
I watched one becuase it featured the 5 Series - chap had £10k to spend, did 5k a year and really loved the look of an E39 5 Series Sport.
So what did Charlie - Changed following a complain - PU get him? £11k for a 90k mile 525d Sport which, from the interior, looked like 190k ('it has a bit of wear as its done 90k' said fat bloke. Looked nothing like the condition of mine and male presenter- PU had completely ignored the much easier to source for £10k 530i, which would have been perfect for somebody doing 5k a year, and had instead got a tatty, bottom of the barrel heavily sought after diesel.
Muppet. I could have done better than him and I'm a student not a used car expert making a living doing it on the TV.
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So, MichaelR,
You're ambivalent towards this programme then!
Which channel is it on?...I can get 5 channels on my tv.
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>>I watched one becuase it featured the 5 Series - chap had £10k to spend, did 5k a year and really loved the look of an E39 5 Series Sport.
I thought this guy was keen on diesel for his trips to France?
Its on ITV4
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It's on ITV4 as far as I am aware, so you will need Freeview.
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Some snipping made following a complaint. This is a reasonable debate, don't spoil it by making nasty comments about physique etc. Thanks PU - Mod.
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whey hoo for once i saw the cut out bits before they were
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While I'm loathe to complain but I believe HJ himself has referred to man mountain Dawe using a term which suggested he was not only overweight but of uncertain parentage- unless of course he meant something else by the term 'FB'? Fabulous bloke perhaps?
Quite honestly I feel there's too much political correctness in this day and age and it's a shame the complaints of a few or a single individual with some sort of size issues have led to a situation where the word 'fat' is deemed to be 'abusive'. All depends how you use it surely?
If he was receeding and short and I was talking about his lack of personal charisma I'd have used the term 'bald dwarf'...................
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I'm staggered somebody was petty enough to complain about what I posted. It can't have been that offensive or vitriolic becuase I can't even remember what I said.
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Yes editing for the sake of political correctness is irritating, especially now that many edited posts make no real sense after the cuts and editions. No need for fould language obviously, however, that is rare on this forum and people should be able to express their sentiments without Mary Whitehouse wannabees getting needlessly affronted. Wondered if this will now be edited...!
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Edited - no only to remind you about the site's Moderation policy. Personally I didn't have a problem with it, it offended someone so it was deleted. You got your points over in the usual erudite and articulate way that is the hallmark of this site, but no need to be personal about the guy. If you want to debate Moderation policy, do so by e-mails...please - PU - Mod.
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8< Snip.
As has already been pointed out, if you have a problem with how this site is moderated, then take it to email. DD.
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to be fair MichaelR it was probably ammended to keep the peace you seem a fair minded person i wouldnt let it bother you to be honest,the main thing is the site is properly moderated by people that give up their own free time for no reward doing a thanklas task in the main and long may it last
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Wish I'd got him in when I bought my new car. With negotiating skills like that it makes the £7000 I got off look like amateur night :D
Well do let us into your secret.
And are you comparing like with like..?
I doubt any Merc Dealer would knock 7Gs of a car with a sticke rprice of 20Gs. Actually I doubt any dealer would. If they are desparate to sell it they are much more likely to reduce the asking price in the first place.
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Yes, I enjoyed this show when it moved around the car shows, but it just gets worse at the moment. The Sky+ box only taped half of it yesterday because the cycling overran - sounds like I didn't miss much. Hard to know what's worse, Jason Dawe getting out of breath writing on windscreens with a marker, the dismal locations they use (eg derelict car-park), or the blokes who spend 5k on ICE and lambo doors.
Jason always compares the current price to the list price, making the depreciation look heavier than it maybe is. Not enough info on the cars, budget for each show looks to be about £50. I don't mind Penny Mallory, though I think she has to pretend to be thicker than she is, and I liked the Citroen Avant because it looks like a car from the Tintin books.
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It does at least I suppose give me something to whine about. The hoots of derision and laughter in our household when UCR is on last almost the whole show.
The auction report with the bit of fluff that either did some fluffing of her own on the casting couch or is someone's daughter is a particular favourite. They've drafted in some people who know about cars to make her gushing comments like 'yes it's a Rover' sound less worthless.
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No, not really comparing 'like with like'. Mine was a brand new car against a used Mercedes. But, I certainly wouldn't be wearing a self satisfied smug grin at getting 12 months road tax. I'd be wanting a decent amount of cash off, used Mercedes or not!
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I found the discussions on UCR quite enlightening - both for the way a promising tv show has clearly disappointed its target audience (us?) - and why the decent reputations of its main presenters have failed to do it any good...
I think many here would agree that Jason Dawe does a good job in his In Gear page on used cars in the Sunday Times. Penny Mallory has nothing to prove as an ex-rally driver, and many warmed to her contributions in the early series of Driven.
Jason was heavily promoted (promoted heavily?!) in previous versions of Used Car Buyer magazine - an infuriatingly patchy mag that is perfection when it hits the sweet spot.
The retrograde steps taken by the latest series of UCR must therefore stem from the decisions of producers, media moguls and other meddlers who try to muck with the format of a what was a promising used car programme. Like a lot of tv these days, as they 'refine' a format they become parodies of themselves and believe their own hype, instead of meeting people like us down the pub, who would have told them what's what.
Maybe if we all write in to UCR they might change it, or at least explain their reasons for the current format? I think the essence of the criticism is that the current show treats both studio and tv audiences like oafish chumps, and the presenters have suitably dumbed down too.
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Rumfitt i have an easier solution..........hit the off button on your plasma...............its pure dross ;-)
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> I think the essence of the criticism is that the current show treats both studio and tv audiences like oafish chumps, and the presenters have suitably dumbed down too.
This is what happens when you let ITV loose on anything.
To think that this shower used to be one of the best examples of commercial broadcasting in the world.
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To think that this shower used to be one of the best examples of commercial broadcasting in the world.
How true - your comment made me realise I haven't watched ITV or whatever it's called now, for well over a decade...
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I suspect that the main problem is that viewing figures are so low that it's more filler material than ground breaking TV.
Shame, because Penny Mallory, at least, is worth much more and Jason is an amiable character.
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Yeah, shame - but there's so little on TV to do with cars that I'll consume dross , then purge with a suitable emetic afterwards. Poor Penny, reduced to smiley cover shots, while that magnificent hunk of manhood whisks his magic marker over the windscreens & says: 'It was £35K now it's a fantastic $10k & IT'S SHINY TOO - WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT!!!! Hah Hah Hah'
Mind you, ITV does have F1 - I'm following their audience figures with a view to a punt on their languishing shares - some of the drama has improved too.
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I think the budget and the fact it has few viewers is no barrier to producing a decent program about used cars.
The problem is their pathetic attempts to ape the Top Gear studio environment, the clueless auction reports and a pair of presenters who would be better heard and not seen.
I don't agree that either of them make good television presenters- blazer wearing bunter cannot speak properly ('Haf' it's pronounced 'Half' you dimwit!) and frequently struggles for breath as he heaves his girth around the set. As for Penny who seems popular here- if she was a dog she'd have been taken to the vets and put to sleep by now. Well past her sell by date and the fact she was an unsuccesful rally driver sometime in the eighties is neither here nor there. She was no Michelle Mouton.
What I don't understand is why they don't ditch all the carp- writing on car windscreens with marker, whooping idiots in the audience because a car costs less when it's 80% used up etc etc.
All they need to do is pick some interesting used cars and talk about them. Matching them to prospective drivers is also a good idea but why on earth do they only have to pick 2 to road test? While I'm on the subject of that why does Dawe always pick the wrong cars? Someone wants something a bit sporty so he goes for the slower model in the range- 'I don't think the extra 50bhp makes and difference' was a classic quote. YES IT DOES DAWE ESPECIALLY WHEN A PASSENGER LIKE YOU WILL SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THE POWER WEIGHT/RATIO.
You know what, perhaps they should leave it just the way it is, I get more enjoyment complaining about it than I would from watching an improved product.............
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I agree 100% with you Stuart, best summary in this entire thread.
-- Biggedy biggedy bong
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Well said OldHand, couldn't agree more....
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