Roadside window cleaners - they're back - wotspur
For a long time there had been none of the menace windscreen cleaners at junctions, but over the last week they've sprung up again at Hanger Lane Gyratory, Vauxhall bridge and on the south circular at Streatham, to name a few
I thought this practice had been banned they are such a nuisance and always hold up traffic when the lights change, because it's in their benefit to do so.
how do others feel about them and stop them from doing their windscreen - if a polite refuseal doesn't dissuade them I put the windscreen wipers on -.

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they're back - stevied
After having driven round Hanger Lane Gyratory last week, I would imagine a windscreen cleaner operating there to have the life expectancy of a WW1 pilot.
they're back - R75
About 12 years ago I was going across the Vauxhall bridge from the south, stopped at the lights just before it, where they were doing window washing, pulled away was going over the bridge and noticed a few odd looks from cars going past me - then a Police bike behind me flashed me over to stop, pulled in and got out to speak to him whereby he was pulling a girl of about 12 off the tail lift of my 45ft fridge trailer - she said she was just hitchin a lift to the next set of lights to see her brother who was cleaning windows there - I could hardly believe it!!! The copper did next to nothing - But i did inform her in no uncertain terms that if the lights had been in my favour then her next stop was either Slough or plastered across the A4/M4 at some point!!!!
they're back - Altea Ego
Did all the illegals drop off the rear axle as well?
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
they're back - R75
I know I was coming from "South" of the river, but suggesting there were illegals on the axle is a bit harsh!!!
they're back - Ian (Cape Town)
"A marvelous bit of free enterprise only ruined by the fact that my car has a device designed so it can clean its windows by itself." - Mary Whitehouse Experience.

There's nothing worse than some degenerate trying this on - especially when I have just collected my car from the velet!
We also have the problem that they tend to use all kinds of dubious sources for their squeezy bottle of water - public fountains, the sea, roadside puddles etc etc etc.
In fact, rather than provide a valuable service, most of our locals are just 'demanding money with menaces' - they get most irate if you tell them to go forth and multiply.
Pepper Spray for the win!
they're back - rogue-trooper
Pepper Spray for the win!


Ian, it is a shame that the powers that be in this country aren't quite so enlightened as they are with you in SA
they're back - Vin {P}
In Manchester several years ago at the height of their powers, I watched a "Colonel" type pull up at some lights in a spotless, deep-polished and perfect Caterham.

Oik with bucket full of filthy water went towards his car and dripped one drip onto the bodywork. With just a look from an eye that could have opned an oyster at 100yards, the Colonel had the bloke in a quivering heap carefully wiping the drip off the paintwork. Not a word spoken or needed to be spoken.

V
they're back - Ian (Cape Town)
>> Pepper Spray for the win!
>>
Ian it is a shame that the powers that be in this country aren't quite
so enlightened as they are with you in SA


Aaaah, but let's look at this logically, shall we?
I carry the mace which is covered as a 'non-lethal' weapon here.
My alternate was manufactured by a company in Belgium called FN...
Should I get into any bother, a quick blast of Mace tends to incapacitate and mark the criminal.
I buy from a 'controlled' outlet (a gun shop) - it isn't something you want in the hands of street-thugs, who will use it as an aid to mugging.
Because I am known at the shop (see the FN story above) they have no problem flogging it to me.
Other patrons would be pretty seriously screened, I'm sure.


Fortunately, I have had only one occasion to use it - when walking from the office to pub one evening, I saw a few scumbag types 'sizing me up', and true to form, they started sauntering across the road - which I had deliberately crossed - and came up with 'do you have a cigarette for me?' line...
One was directly in front, one was off to his left (my right) and the third moved to behind my left shoulder.
Right 'in my face', so I stepped backwards, elbowing the thug to my left, and let rip at the two in front, catching them both full-bore in the face.
The third, having been bumped out of the way, legged it - closely followed by the two dye-stained coughing riff-raff.
I called Plod on the mobile, and they arrived quickly - made arrests of the two coughers - and took a statement from me.
No further action. No crime was committed - there was obviously an intent, and I'm sure the riffraff didn't want to press charges against me, as they were hardly the upstanding gentleman types...

Back to motoring...
A big problem here is smash-and-grab in traffic queues.
It still amazes me that people leave their handbags/briefcases/phones on car seats, in full display of the tack-vendors/beggars and window wipers who walk up and down between the cars...

they're back - AngryJonny
A South African friend of mine once told me his strategy for dealing with being carjacked. "Drive into the car in front. Slam into the back of them. Whatever. Just get someone else involved."

Seems a bit drastic, but apparently it works.
they're back - Pugugly {P}
Recent MO around here (well last year) was for substance users to stand at traffic lights with a rat in a shopping bag. They'd wait for a car with a lone female to stop, open the passenger door and chuck rattie in. This usually had the desired result of driver making a sharp exit. They got some tasty motors like that.
they're back - Vansboy
Think it was on here, I read...

OK, they 'clean' the windows, you hand the operative a £ coin, accidently he drops it, you hear it fall into the footwell, you give him another. Remembering to retrieve the lost coin, when you get home, discovering a 2p piece!

Or, you refuse the offer, but they carry on cleaning, leaning accross the car & wave you on, without any payment. You discover the indentation, about knee height, in the door/front wing, when you get out of the car.

Now, where do I buy a fresh can of Mace!!??

VB
they're back - wrangler_rover
A screenwasher tried it on with me on the outskirts of Dublin a few years ago at some traffic lights. I stopped about 20 yards short of the lights, he started walking towards me in the middle of the road with his bucket of mucky water & rag. I made sure my windows & sunroof were shut & hit the central locking. Then I held the car on the handbrake, flat footed the accelerator & started to slip the clutch, his look of anticipation quickly turned to horror as he realised that I was having none of it & was prepared to run him down. He sidestepped out of my way, waved me forward & tried touting for business from the car behind me.
they're back - Westpig
SNIP (and if you were wondering why) - www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=33415

DD
they're back - mazdaboy
Hanger Lane this afternooon - four or five young Albanian/Romanian girls, no more than sixteen, playing chicken with four lanes of traffic in their haste to make a few quid. It's just a matter of time before one is killed.
they're back - csgmart
Junction 2 off M32 in Bristol (Easton Roundabout) yesterday evening. Roundabout is controlled by traffic lights (tell me what that's all about please?) so oiks get plenty of opportunities for stationary traffic.

I kindly declined the offer after said oik put his dubious cleaning apparatus on my windscreen. It's left a suspicious makr on the screen - nuff said.

Never ever come across them before so was mildly surpised to say the least.
they're back - Rover25
This invaluable public service has also appeared in Manchester in recent weeks. Seems to be Eastern European immigrants mostly, think they are quite brave plying for trade just off the Princess Parkway near Moss Side- close to scene of too many driveby 'lead poisoning' incidents.
they're back - daiking
This invaluable public service has also appeared in Manchester in recent weeks. Seems to be
Eastern European immigrants mostly think they are quite brave plying for trade just off the
Princess Parkway near Moss Side- close to scene of too many driveby 'lead poisoning' incidents.


ditto where regent road meets the inner ring road. Saw them for the first time on Friday. Was at the front of the queue but luckily the guy was harassing motorists waiting at another filter. I'm surprised that the existing sections of the shady local population allow them to get on with it.
they're back - Lud
Haven't seen any in the Smoke yet.

Perhaps the're doing a trial run in the provinces before opening in St Martin's Lane?
they're back - Happy Blue!
Hanger Lane this afternooon - four or five young Albanian/Romanian girls no more than sixteen
playing chicken with four lanes of traffic in their haste to make a few quid.
It's just a matter of time before one is killed.


Ah that's it - Albanian!

There in Manchester as well, near the Sainsury's at Regent Road in Salford. I've told one to go away and managed to avoid another, but it is really annoying. Not only that, I frequently have no change on me, so I tell them before they get near me, but they keep on coming......
they're back - stevied
I can't believe substance users are so fashionable.. "Oh purleease... chucking rats into a car is SOOO last year".

On a slightly different tack, WHERE do these things happen?!! I think I lead a very sheltered life!!
they're back - Nsar
Saw one in Knightsbridge t'other week

Manchester BR people - anyone seen the SabiRock guy?
they're back - daiking
Manchester BR people - anyone seen the SabiRock guy?

Frequently, whilst driving (still on topic ;-) ) to work before half 8 in the morning
Usually between harry ramsdens and the viaduct/bridge at the botom of regent road and sometimes near the mini garage along bridgewater way or whatever it's called, near the Pomona?

Although tbf, I've never seen him clean windscreens
they're back - Rover25
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>> Manchester BR people - anyone seen the SabiRock guy?


Yep see him quite often in the AM rush hour. normally at the end of Princess Road on the approach to Medlock St roundabout under the Mancunian Way.

All this talk of Manchester in the BR- its only a matter of time before somebody suggests a NW meet up! .........
they're back - Pugugly {P}
Adam use to suggest that often, from memory there was one arranged last year.....of the M62 somewhere.