I Have A Question - Volume 161 - Dynamic Dave

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Stats problem from previous IHAQ - Robin
Vin wrote the following:

Probability of 251 or more being green: 0.00000000000233108868440321

Probability of 250 or more being green: 0.00000000000438502035941316

The chance of being killed by lightning in the United States is equal to about 0.00000032

This surely cannot be correct. If the probabilty of 250 being green is as Vin wrote, then the probabilty of 250 being red is as near as make no difference 1. Does not make sense as at the start there are 700red balls and 1300 green ones.
A level maths was a fair while ago and I cannot remember how to do this.
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - tyro
As the original questioner, I hesitate to answer this, but . . . .

a) At the start, there were 700 green, 1300 red, not the other way around

b) if the probability that at least half the beads chosen are green is vanishly small, then the probability that at least half the beads are red is indeed almost one.
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - Robin
>if the probability that at least half the beads chosen are green is vanishly small, then the probability that at least half the beads are red is indeed almost one

This is the part that does not make sense to me. The probability of having 250 green ones cannot be vanishly small There are 700 green and 1300 red. You select 500 at random. If the probablity of selecting at leat 250 red is 1 then this means that you WILL select 250 red ones. What about the other 250? They must be green. Intuitively this does not seem right. I cannot work out how Vin worked out the result. It would be interesting to pose the question the other way around and calculate the probability of 250 reds using the same method

Stats problem from previous IHAQ - BazzaBear {P}
If the probablity of selecting at leat 250 red is
1 then this means that you WILL select 250 red ones.
What about the other 250? They must be green.


This is what's confusing you. You're forgetting the words AT LEAST. Yes, it's almost certain that 250 will be red, but this doesn't mean that the other 250 WILL be green, it's AT LEAST 250 red, so many of the other balls can also be red.
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - L'escargot
The chance of being killed by lightning in the United States
is equal to about 0.00000032


Even less if you never go there! ;-)
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Stats problem from previous IHAQ - Vin {P}
Robin,

This is calculated by working out the probability of having exactly 250 green ones, adding the probability of having 251 green ones, etc, etc. These add up to the number above.

The number that adds up to very nearly one is the odds that there are somewhere between 1 and 249 green ones in the sample of 500. What the results say is that this is almost a certainty. Thus, it's saying that the odds of >249 (i.e. 250 red ones or 251 red ones or 252 red ones, etc etc) is 1 as near as dammit.

Don't know if that clarifies matters or murks them.

V
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - Vin {P}
Put another way. If the probability of >=250 green is X, then the probability of =250 is around zero, so probability <250 is around 1.

V
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - Dalglish
I have 50 jars, each with 40 beads - 14 green, and 26 red.
From each jar, I take (at random) 10 beads, and put them in a bowl, which thus has 500 beads.
What is the probability that the number of green beads outnumbers the red ones?

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tyro : can you tell me whether
1.
you take 10 beads out of each jar in a single event, and then repeat this for the 50 jars, or

2.
take 1st bead out of the 40 in the first jar, repeat this for the other 49 jars;
take 2nd bead out of the remaining 39 beads in that jar, repeat this for the other 49jars;
take 3rd bead of the remaining 38 beads in the first jar, repeat this for the other 49 jars; etc. etc. until
take 10th bead of the remaining 31 beads in the first jar, repeat this for the other 49 jars.


Stats problem from previous IHAQ - L'escargot
To get to the bottom of this one I think we need someone who knows how many beans (or beads) make five!
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Stats problem from previous IHAQ - Robbie
To get to the bottom of this one I think we
need someone who knows how many beans (or beads) make five!
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I know the answwer to that:

a bean, a bean, a half a been, a half a bean, a bean, a bean.
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - Mapmaker
Dalgish - why do you think that will make a difference?
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - tyro
tyro : can you tell me whether
1.
you take 10 beads out of each jar in a
single event, and then repeat this for the 50 jars, or


Yes, 1. Why - does it make a difference?
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - hxj

I think that this problem is alot more complicated than it first appears.

Trying to model the answer I end up with some huge calculations, but it is very clear that the probability of achieving the answer by chance is as close to Nil as any normal person would want to get to! Orders of magnitude smaller than the earlier answers.

However you cannot tell from the question if the chances of picking each individual bean from every is really only dependant upon the occurence in the closed population. For example are green beans found closer to the top as red beans are smaller etc This would have a significant impact upon the answer.
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - Number_Cruncher
As I'm utterly hopeless with stats, I adopted a brute force approach, and simulated the problem directly. The results of 1139717 trials are shown below (I intended to do more, but the simulation was taking longer than I have time for, so I interrupted it, hence the peculiar number of trials)

Below is a histogram of results, so, for the first non-zero case, there were 6 trials which had green bead counts between 130 and 135, 43 trials giving between 135 and 140 beads, and so on.

120 0
125 0
130 6
135 43
140 415
145 2740
150 11896
155 39086
160 94602
165 169925
170 229570
175 234590
180 180556
185 106405
190 47577
195 16771
200 4472
205 922
210 120
215 20
220 1
225 0
230 0
235 0
240 0
245 0
250 0

As previously stated, the probability of getting more than 250 beads in a trial of 50 jars is very small indeed. Although the probability of getting equal to or more than five beads from any particular jar is much higher, approximately one jar in five.

Number_Cruncher
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - hxj

Being a sad ******* i have sat down and worked this out:

The results are as follows:

1 Jar 22%
2 Jars 9%
3 Jars 4%

50 jars will take a little longer!
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - Vin {P}
The maths is:

If your probability of picking a green bean is P, then the probability of picking exactly m green beans in a selection of exactly n is:

nCm x P^m x ( (1-p)^(n-m) )

nCm = n!/(m!x(n-m!))

n! = factorial of n

^ = to the power of

Plug in n=175, m=500 p = 0.35 and you'll find that the probability is 0.0.03738 - so nearly 4% of the time you'll pick out 175 green beans exactly.

All maths courtesy of Collin Phillips, University of Sydney.

V

Stats problem from previous IHAQ - Vin {P}
Obvious error:

nCm = n!/(m!x(n-m!)) should read nCm = n!/(m!x(n-m)!), obviously.

V
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - hxj

But unfortunately that was not the question! It was:-

You have 50 jars each containing 40 beans, 16 green and 24 red

You pick 10 beans from each jar and put them in a bowl, totalling 500 beans

What is the probability that you end up with 250 or more green beans in the bowl.

It is the combination of the beans from each jar that is causing me some problems. For example using 3 jars you could get 15 beans or more (the equivalent percentage) by having 0 beans from jar 1, 7 from 2 and 10 from jar 3. or 3,4,8 etc etc etc
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - Number_Cruncher
The maths posted by Vin does break the back of the problem, because it allows you to estimate the probability of obtaining 250, 251, 252, ..... 499, 500 green beads, and then, to obtain the final answer, one may sum these probabilities. If you include the case for 250 beads, the sum of probabilities comes out at 4.39E-12 (or, 1 case in 228049112213). Practically, it's fairly pointless adding terms beyond 260, because they are so improbable, they add little to the total probability.

Vin - please could you post a link to the web page?


Number_Cruncher
Stats problem from previous IHAQ - Vin {P}
It is the combination of the beans from each jar that is causing me some problems. For example using 3 jars you could get 15 beans or more (the equivalent percentage) by having 0 beans from jar 1, 7 from 2 and 10 from jar 3. or 3,4,8 etc etc etc

I'm a little confused by your description:

He said you take ten beans from each jar, surely? If each jar contains a proportion of 35% green, 65% red, then if you take them at random in any combination that doesn't exceed the number of one or another colour, then you'll end up with a suitable sample. (What I mean by that is that if a jar of 40 contains 14 green and 24 red, then if you take a sample from each of 25, you are guaranteed a green in your final sample)

The link to the relevant page is:

tinyurl.com/y2799s

V
5:1 surround sound speakers - Brill {P}
I've aquired a set of 5:1 surround sound speakers (one large sub and 4 small monitor speakers if 5:1 is not the correct description). No instructions.

There are two leads from the sub unit, marked 'Front' and 'Rear'. Do I need to buy another piece of kit to plug these into before I can add them to a computer or TV?

I tested both F and R separately via the headphone jack on a radio and both worked independently, but obviously want to fire them all up together.

Do newer TVs have the facility to plug both the F and R into? Mine (old!) just has a single headphone socket. Maybe time to upgrade the TV?

Thanks.
5:1 surround sound speakers - Robbie
You need a decoder to achieve Dolby Digital Surround Sound. You can't just plug them into your TV unless it has Dolby built into it.

Incidentally, there should really be five speakers plus a sub-woofer. The fifth is your centre speaker.
5:1 surround sound speakers - Brill {P}
Hi, yes there is a large 5th speaker, I called that the sub-woofer, but I know nothing.

So I could just get a new tv, and some of the newer ones will take these (F and R leads) without a separate decoder?

I need to look for one marked 'Dolby Surround Sound built in'?
5:1 surround sound speakers - Robbie
It's not quite as simple as that. You would need to make sure that the TV had the connectivity.

The cheapest method to get surround sound is to buy an A/V amp. You can then connect your various pieces of equipment to it and listen in SS. I have a Technics AV amp and have my TV, Freeview Box, sat box, and DVD player connected.

Does the "large box" connect to the mains? If so, it's a sub woofer. The centre speaker sits on top of the TV.
5:1 surround sound speakers - Robbie
So you can understand what I'm talking about here's a link to what you need to get.

tinyurl.com/yd48vv
5:1 surround sound speakers - Brill {P}
Thanks, it seems to be a powered sub-woofer with four satelite speakers by Cambridge Soundworks.

For now, maybe I can get an adapter cable (two into one) so I can use the set as simple speakers, even that would be better than the basic tv speaker (mono), then later on either get a decoder, or a more fancy tv with it in-built.

Thanks for the feedback.
5:1 surround sound speakers - Robbie
If you have a stereo then you can connect your tv to that and have "quasi" stereo sound.
5:1 surround sound speakers - BazzaBear {P}
Thanks, it seems to be a powered sub-woofer with four satelite
speakers by Cambridge Soundworks.

Cambridge speakers are primarily made and marketed as computer speakers, but they're generally very good. What you're describing is a 4.1 system. A 5.1, as described above, has an extra centre satellite speaker.
If you can find the model name anywhere on then system, then you should be able to find a full manual for it here:
www.cambridgesoundworks.com/store/category.cgi?cat...s
And that'll give you the connectivity details.
5:1 surround sound speakers - bell boy
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Thanks for the feedback.


you dont want non of that feedback guv,,,,,,,,,,,,,,blow your speakers it will.......... ;-)
5:1 surround sound speakers - Brill {P}
Thanks for the info Robbie.

Bazza, the Cambridge link was perfect, have followed their instructions and it works brilliantly.
5:1 surround sound speakers - Stuartli
Most modern television sets have all the facilities required to connect surround sound - in fact many manufactures such as Sony can also supply Home Theatre speakers to link up to their sets.

Many standard and HD transmissions already include 5.1 Dolby Surround Sound and some TV models will even play DivX movies.

The best bet is to go to a local independent audio/visual outlet and ask them to demonstrate exactly what is available.

Much of it, especially HD, is absolutely stunning...:-)
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5:1 surround sound speakers - bell boy
still needs the prologic circuitry though rather than quasi
do as i did buy the basic telly..............you have it
and as suggested get the surround sound receiver .......denon is the best at £250 at somewhere like superfi tv will never be the same again
i have had better quality sound from my tv since 76 by using a transformer so the hi fi wasnt live via the tv chassis
5:1 surround sound speakers - Stuartli
My younger offspring has a Denon surround sound system hitched up to his (quite ancient) TV and the sound quality is remarkable - not surprising as both FM and UHF sound quality on TV is normally of high quality apart from the adverts boost during advertising breaks.

\In fact it took the launch of digital Nicam sound in 1990 by the BBC to persuade TV set manufacturers to somewhat reluctantly provide something better than the poor one watt mono output speaker setup that was prevalent at the time.
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Gas cooker bleed screw - horatio
I have an old cooker (says on it "Leisure 200-s" ) which has just developed a fault. I took the top cover off , i.e. removed the 4 hobs from the top of the cooker. I have found that there is a brass block behind the gas control knob for the main oven. This block is conected to the gas feed rail, and a pipe goes off down to the oven. On the underside of this brass block is a small brass screw, I confirmed that this is where the gas is leaking.

Upon removing the screw I found it to be a bleed screw with a O-ring which has hardened.

The screw is about 15mm long 4mm diameter hollow with a small transverse hole half way there is an O-ring at one end.

It does not appear to be possible to slide a new O ring because the point at which the O ring sits has a diameter of 2mm so a new O ring would have to be stretched quite a bit, then again when manufactured they had to get the O-ring on there somehow!

Suggestions please on where (what type of shop do I look for) to otain a new bleed screw complete with O-ring, or just a 4mm external diameter O-ring internal diameter 2mm (probably not a good idea unless it is specifically intended as an O-ring for this type of gas cooker bleed screw)

Thank you
Gas cooker bleed screw - AlastairW
May I strongly suggest you consult a Corgi registered or other licenced gas engineer (unless you are one, of course). Don't really want to hear about a gas explsion in your neck of the woods!
Gas cooker bleed screw - Pugugly {P}
> This block is conected to the gas feed rail>>

Obviously of common rail design and dealer only repair.
Gas cooker bleed screw - horatio
Interesing comment, thanks for the info. I have found out Leisure still exist, and they have parts people called "seme nedis" sent email, but was bounced back, have to phone them Mon - Fri. I Will see what they have to say.

If as you say, then the cooker will have to go to the dump. It's not worth repairing unless the repair can be done for a couple of quid. (new screw /check for leaks, job done)

Thanks for the advice Alastair, I will be careful, it's only because I am technically minded I discovered the leak in the first place. The oven valve does shut off, it only leaks when the oven is turned on. If I hadn't found it KABOOM could have been a possibility (but probably not due to the nature of the leak, more like kaboo..i.e. before the gas could concentrate in the kitchen and explode it concentrates inside the oven and we get a mini explosion because the oven is lit, when the oven is off there is no leak).

Cheers.

Gas cooker bleed screw - Mapmaker
I am not a gas repair specialist. I therefore make no recommendation other than that you should find a CORGI.

I didn't quite understand/read properly your question. However, whilst not offering you any advice, I might wonder for a moment whether there might be something like PTFE tape that would help to seal your leak. As I understand it there is a gas-specific PTFE tape that is sold - not the ordinary PTFE tape.
Gas cooker bleed screw - wemyss
Horatio,
I was once Corgi registered but worked on gas boilers which are similar in many ways.
I have a leisure Profile manual and looked for the brass part you describe.
The only one similar is a small block with two tappings at one end. It is listed as a ?Cut off valve?
You mention a bleed screw but I have never seen a bleed on a gas appliance as it will purge itself.
Could the screw extend down into a gas way as an isolator?. Some small gas pipe fittings have such a device.
If you want spares the best place I have found is Gas on Spares at Halesowen. tel 0121 585 7799. Its advantageous if you have a manual but they are very helpful.
wemyss


Gas cooker bleed screw - bell boy
sensible post wemyss im not corgi trained either but i wonder if what he is describing is a regulator?
Gas cooker bleed screw - horatio
Hello all,

Here is the screw taken with the worlds worst digital camera
img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3screwaf6.jpg

Maybe it is a regulator, the threaded end (gold end) is hollow the diameter of this hole reduces into a tiny hole (less than diameter of a pin) which passes into the transverse hole (which can be seen in the pictures).

The O -ring is at the other end (the dark end) and there is no thread at that end so PTFE-like tape wouldn't work..

I think they won't sell just the screw and whole shut off valve will be expensive...and require more work and knowledge to fit, like a gasket on the common rail or something.

I think I'll have to find a new O ring. But I'll let you know what the parts people say. Oh and thanks for that parts tel. no. I''ll call them too.
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Gas cooker bleed screw - mjm
Alternatively, you may find a friendly maintainance man/mechanic with a "maintainance" box of many assorted O rings. If you keep the original one as intact as possible it will help in size selection.

If you wind some insulation tape around the threads and over the end of the screw, leaving the O ring seat clear, it should be possibe to "roll" the new one into place without damage. A little lubrication with some liquid soap will help. It can be washed off afterwards and the assembly dried off before fitting.
Gas cooker bleed screw - wemyss
Yes your'e correct in this. I went on a fornights course at British Gas Solihull some thirty years ago and recall them telling us that standard PTFE had been found to be unsuitable for gas. Present day tape has a BSS standard on it which signifies this suitability.
Another good tip from the Instructor at the time. At that period copper tube was designated BS659 and it had recently been changed to table X Y and Z. I think semi hard which we all use today is table X. The new tube was much more difficult to bend particularly with a bending spring without it kinking.. He told us that of their men had found that by using a standard steel two foot folding rule opened out on the inside of the tube when using a spring eliminated kinking.
It did too and you could pull a fairly tight 90 degree bend cleanly.
wemyss
Gas cooker bleed screw - henry k
I am not a gas repair specialist. I therefore make no recommendation other than that you should find a CORGI.

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I have had a good CORGI man doing some work today.

I was impressed with his approach and insistence on standards.
Three different CORGIS that I phoned warned me that they would not touch the cooker without the correct manufacturers installation book.
I would warn you that at the meter he checked and timed for any leakage.
He altered the flexible connection on my cooker as it had previously been incorrectly installed by CORGI.
He also completely checked out all the functions of the cooker before he would pass it.

A few years ago we had the gas switched off due to a fault in the road.
Each house had the main gas cock shut off. When the fault was repaired, each house was visited for the pipes to be purged. All appliances were checked and after a few poor attempts at resolving the problems with our cooker a condemed notice was stuck on it. Instant no cooking capability.

IMO In your position If a CORGI will come you may well require an instant new cooker.
Re: Leaking Aqualisa shower - BazzaBear {P}
To follow-up from the question in volume 160, I suggested my theory of replacing the shower body to the plumber and he agreed that there was a good chance this would fix the problem.
I rang Aqualisa this morning to order the parts, and have to say their reputation for customer service seems well deserved, very helpful guy on the phone, speeded my order through to make the shipment due to go out in five minutes, so I should hopefully get the parts tomorrow morning. Also said that when they've arrived, if I need any advice on fitting, give them another ring and they'll help all they can.

It actually looks simple enough for even a dunce like me to tackle. I plan to turn off the cold water at the stopcock, then run the shower and bathroom taps until I'm not getting any more cold or hot water through before starting of course. Any other hot tips I should bear in mind?
Re: Leaking Aqualisa shower - wemyss
No you seem to have it all in hand Bazza. Any joints to make ensure they are clean. Often a bit of wire wool ensures this. Don't overtighten anything as you can always nip anything up afterwards.
Never worked on one of these so can't advise on details but common sense will tell you what to do.
wemyss
Rechargeables in Digital camera - pmh
Fuji 5600, cracking deal at £108 with trade in direct from Fuji (£300 12months ago), but surprised to find that it is specified to only use only AA Alkaline or Ni MH batteries. NOT to use Nicads. The specified terminal voltage for Nicads and NiMH is the same at 1.2 -1.25V so that is not the reason. Possibly the discharge characteristic and the sensing circuit for battery failure? Resulting possibly running to the point where voltage falls to a point where XD card is corrupted before being warned of impending failure?
Or is it that NiMH is seen as greener?

Any ideas please?
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Rechargeables in Digital camera - sine
Nicads like to be almost completely flat before being recharged otherwise they loose their stamina.
I'm guessing the camera will shutdown before this point is reached and therefore the batteries will quickly wear out.
To get round this problem some more expensive chargers will flatten a battery prior to charging, you could also run the batteries down in a torch.

Ni Mh are not so fussy and can be half dischaged and then recharged with no ill effects.
Rechargeables in Digital camera - JH
don't flatten them in a torch. I did that, ran the batteries down to the point where the bulb was barely glowing and blew the bulb. I have no idea why but I did it twice. Well I couldn't beleive it first time and they sell bulbs in packs of 2!

JH
Rechargeables in Digital camera - Dynamic Dave
Ni-MH batteries have a higher capacity (mA wise) than Ni-cads, so *maybe* that's the reason why.

I can run my Fuji digital camera on standard AA's in an emergency (ie, the NI-MH's have gone flat and you have little alternative but to buy a set from a nearby garage or shop) but the AA's don't last very long at all. Could be wrong, but I think Ni-cads have less capacity (mA wise) in them than standard AA's. This was certainly the case of my casio 2" pocket tv. On AA's it would last approx 1½ to 2 hours on Duracells, but on Ni-cads it would only run for 20 mins. On Ni-MH's though (2000 mA ones) it would run for nearly 3 hours.
Rechargeables in Digital camera - sine
Yes DD forgot to mention the NiCds i've seen are usually only rated around 800mAh. NiMHs are now upto 2400mAh. In theory that should mean the batteries will last 3 times as long before requiring a recharge.
Rechargeables in Digital camera - pmh
My AA nicads are specd to 1800mAh, which is pretty good cf premium Alkalines. Certainly sines suggestion of the recharge cycle issue(requirement to go very flat) is probably the the most likely reason. My charger allows me to completely flatten the Nicad batteries so I will continue to use them unless I can find any convincing reason why not.

This site has some interesting comparisons www.computerhope.com/battery.htm

Thanks for comments.
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Rechargeables in Digital camera - Stuartli
>>NiMHs are now upto 2400mAh.>>

Up to at least 2700mAh now.

Some useful info on the benefits of Ni-MH batteries (especially the lack of memory effects compared to Ni-Cad) at:

www.digibattery.co.uk/
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Rechargeables in Digital camera - Vin {P}
7dayshop.co.uk , with whom I have no connection, sell NiMH batteries for astoundingly low prices, about 25% of the cost some people try to charge (and I do mean 25% of the charge, not 25% less)

e.g. tinyurl.com/ydqte5

V
Rechargeables in Digital camera - Group B
I have always used NiMH batteries in my Fuji S5000. Currently got 2400mAh ones in, they last absolutely ages, and the camera functions perfectly. I don't like NiCds at all; I dont like the fact that an inanimate object can have a preference for how it wants to be charged/ discharged! I always buy batteries on eBay, usually much cheaper than shops.

I've been looking at the S5600, I want to upgrade to one of those, but I'm having a new pocket camera for Christmas so I will wait a bit.

;o)
Rechargeables in Digital camera - Stuartli
>>I dont like the fact that an inanimate object can have a preference for how it wants to be charged/ discharged!>>

Which is why Ni-MH batteries were developed, along with the fact that they are vastly more suited to the purpose...:-)

I'm also a 7DayShop regular and not only for batteries.
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Rechargeables in Digital camera - Group B
Forgot to mention, if the S5600 is the same as the S5000, you do need to carry a spare set of batteries, as DD says. When the low battery warning flashes, it dies almost straight away. You do not get a prolonged warning that the batteries are low. I have some standard Duracells for this purpose, but I rarely have to use them. The good thing with NiMH is you can just give them 30 mins or an hours charge here and there to pep them up if youre in a hurry.
Rechargeables in Digital camera - Stuartli
>>The good thing with NiMH is you can just give them 30 mins or an hours charge here and there to pep them up if youre in a hurry.>>

This is a valid point. Even better is if you have a battery charger that comes with both a mains and car cigar battery adapter and are away from home, as the batteries can be charged up whilst parked or driving.
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Rechargeables in Digital camera - Sim-O
From running a remote controlled car, the Ni-mh batteries do not have a 'memory ' like Ni-Cd.
If Ni cd's are not discharged completey then you will not get a full charge into them next time. I also believe they are easier to dispose of.
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End of financial year for local council - L'escargot
When is the end of a local council's financial year? I'm thinking about when they realise they have money still to spend which is not yet allocated to anything.
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End of financial year for local council - wemyss
Not absolutely sure but imagine its the same as the Civil Service/Home Office which is at the end of the normal fiscal year end of April.
However its not quite as straight forward as that. To abide by the rules tenders have to be let to approved tenderers which can take at least two months.
If it is just materials only they can be purchased direct and immediately from a SEG list which is a collection of books listing every conceivable item with prices already submitted at the beginning of the fiscal year. I would think Local Authorities use this same system as it would be too big a task to set up a similar system of purchase.
There are exceptions which can be used in an emergency for unforseen events. (Such as a riot in my workplace).
These rules are often broken and have done it myself many times but there is always the suspicion when audits are carried out that your'e up to something shady.
All the above rules go out the window on super schemes such as the millenium dome.
End of financial year for local council - wemyss
Should have said March....
End of financial year for local council - Pugugly {P}
Its the end of Q3 very soon. The "books" for Q4 will normally be closing towards the end of February with any "slippage" being readilly apparant in that month. All bills are normally settled for the third week in March (invoices will have gone out) The end of the Financial year is March 31.
End of financial year for local council - Pugugly {P}
Just a little more info, spoken to SWMBO this morning, "she's involved" with a Local Authority, she says that their budget allocations are highly complex, especially in certain types of grant, some of this money has to be spent by the end of the financial year or it goes back to the funding body, even in the 21st Century this leads to a spending frenzy in late February which borders on the outrageous - you would be horrified.
End of financial year for local council - drbe
even
in the 21st Century this leads to a spending frenzy in
late February which borders on the outrageous - you would be
horrified.

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Do forgive me, but I bet I wouldn't be horrified.

I have seen what the shower of ---- do in Elmdridge (which is Esher, Oxshott, Walton and Weybridge) and also Surrey County Council.
End of financial year for local council - L'escargot
this leads to a spending frenzy in
late February which borders on the outrageous - you would be
horrified.


In that case roll on late February, because I'm hoping to benefit from some of this spending frenzy. I've asked the council for a kerb at the edge of the verge outside our house to deter people from driving over it ~ the verge that is, not the house! Fingers crossed.
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End of financial year for local council - L'escargot
I've asked the
council for a kerb at the edge of the verge .........


Request refused. Well, at least I tried to do my bit to improve the looks of the area.
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End of financial year for local council - wotspur
Many years ago I was an electrical buyer for a building company, doing many of the local schools up grades- around March, I was instructed to purchase lamps by the container load, and other consumables, to spend the councils budget,this year so they recieve at least the same the following year- doubt anything has changed-hence OUR extortiante council tax
Scalextric - Mounting on Board - BobbyG
Have bought my 8 (soon to be 9) year old son a Scalextric set for his birthday.

Was thinking that for him to get maximum benefit from it, it would be good to mount it on a board so that it is always built up and we can just lift the board in from the garage when needed or even play it out there.

Has anyone done this before? Any enthusiasts out there? I haven't played with Scalextric for about 25 years! What is the best method of securing the track to the board?

Any thoughts / advice on the matter most appreciated.
Scalextric - Mounting on Board - daveyjp
At a similar age I had a Hornby train set mounted on a sheet of 8x4 plywood. The track was fixed to the board using panel pins through the sleepers.
Scalextric - Mounting on Board - Stuartli
>>The track was fixed to the board using panel pins through the sleepers.>>

If I remember correctly my train set had a similar arrangement. I had the advantage that, in the years leading up to my arrival on the planet, my late father served his engineering apprenticeship at Hornby's Binns Lane factory in Liverpool.

Several of those who served their apprentices around the same time went on to become very big fish in the world of engineering companies.
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Scalextric - Mounting on Board - Bromptonaut
Triang/Hornby track was pre drilled to facilitate board mounting. Scalextric would be more difficult as the track is slightly flexible and you may also want ot retain banking and (in the figure eight track) the flyover.
Scalextric - Mounting on Board - Pugugly {P}
If you swapped the words me for us and we perhaps ? (nothing wrong with that of course !)
Scalextric - Mounting on Board - Mapmaker
Scalextric takes so little time to put together - it's not like Hornby - that it's surely not worth the effort? Most of the fun was in rearranging the route. TBH, we found it very boring, and we never played with ours. Hornby, however...
Scalextric - Mounting on Board - Robin Reliant
Chipboard is probably the best, It doesn't warp like plywood. Constant re-joining of the track eventually damages the conections and a permanent layout is better.

And one doesn't "play"with them, one takes part in a serious sport with minature replicas. Personally, I would wait till your son is at a responsible age -45 or so - before I would let him near it.
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Scalextric - Mounting on Board - Pugugly {P}
Well said RR !
BT Diverse 5250 extra handset - Clanger
I would like to register a new BT 5200 handset to a BT Diverse 5250 phone system with 3 existing handsets. The handset I have won't register automatically by sticking it in the base station cradle and I can't register it manually bcause I've foolishly forgotten the PIN. Anyone know if I can get the system to give me back its PIN, or any ideas? I don't mind paying for support but the 0900 number I have tells me that their agents are busy and can't take my call. Presumably I'm going to get charged £1 each time for finding that out. Your kind help would be appreciated. TIA.
Hawkeye
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BT Diverse 5250 extra handset - Peter D
Try this
www.bt.com/userguides/downloads/Diverse5210.pdf
Default Pin is 0000 but page 36 allows you to change the Pin
Regards Peter
BT Diverse 5250 extra handset - cockle {P}
Have my Diverse 5110 book in front of me, shouldn't imagine it's largely different to the 5210.
As Peter says default pin is 0000, but it also states that if you have forgotten the base station PIN then you need to ring the BT Diverse Helpline on 0845 908070.
This is a Lo-Call rate number that is charged at your normal local rate, not £1 a minute, the Helpline is open 09:00-18:00 Monday to Friday and 09:00-17:30 on Saturday, according to its announcement.
Hope that's of help.
BT Diverse 5250 extra handset - Dalglish
.. This is a Lo-Call rate number that is charged at your normal local rate,...


iirc, this is a fallacy, and it still persists due to misleading adverts.

01 and 02 numbers are national standard rate numbers, irrespective of thier being "local" to you or "long-distance".

08 numbers including 0845 are special "premium" rate numbers.

09 numbers are very-high premium-rate numbers.

my terminology is not precise, but you get the drift. for precise definitions, see the ofcom website.
BT Diverse 5250 extra handset - Clanger
Thanks all. Have tried to change the PIN but it won't let you unless you know the PIN you want to replace.

The 0845 number directs you 0906 5533505 at £1 minute if the equipment isn't in warranty and I can't get beyond the "all agents are busy and unable to take your call" message.
Hawkeye
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BT Diverse 5250 extra handset - Pugugly {P}
Related but not a direct answer. This website converst those darned numbers to std telphone numbers including some 0906 - strike back !

www.saynoto0870.com/numbersearch.php
BT Diverse 5250 extra handset - Clanger
I've persisted with the 0900 number (didn't find an equivalent normal number on the website) and found a very helpful, knowledgeable fast-talking operator to tell me the following procedure to reset the PIN to 0000. Press "page" on the base station and keep it pressed while the power is disconnected and reconnected. Continue to press "page" for a further 24 seconds, then release. Worked a treat. Thanks to all who replied.
Hawkeye
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Capital Gains Tax & Share Scheme - smokie
Mrs S (basic rate taxpayer) has been paying into a share scheme for 3 or 5 years, say she's paid in £15k. The options have now come up and are worth £45k, therefore (I assume) £30k capital gains. She has cashed in the option and now has a share certificate in her name for the shares. She is going to lodge this with a joint online share dealing account we have. We have no other CGT liabilities. I understand that the CGT allowance is £8.5k pa. While we don't need the cash, we are keen to sell as many shares as possible now as the price is at an all time high. So some questions:

I guess if I owned half and she owned half then we can each get the £8.5k allowance?
Does she need to assign half of the shares to me (higher rate taxpayer) or by dint of them being in a joint account are they shared?
How much can we sell now and avoid CGT (and I'm assuming that whatever we can do before April, we can do again after April).
Is the CGT liability on £30k, therefore if we split the shares and each sold c£11k now and again in April we avoid all CGT?
Is there an easy online calculator to help me with this?
Any other tips or ideas please?
Capital Gains Tax & Share Scheme - Dalglish
Is there an easy online calculator to help me with this?
Any other tips or ideas please?

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try these pages:
current & next year's allowances - www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/cgt.htm
www.hmrc.gov.uk/individuals/tmacapital-gains.shtml
www.hmrc.gov.uk/leaflets/c4.htm
www.hmrc.gov.uk/pdfs/2002_03/capital_gains/sa108_n...f (last page has a calculation sheet).

detailed info:
www.hmrc.gov.uk/cgt/index.htm

Capital Gains Tax & Share Scheme - smokie
Very useful, thanks Dalglish. The govt webpages are heaps better than I usually give them credit for!

How clever are birds? - L'escargot
Why is it that birds fly away when you go out into the garden yet they completely ignore washing flapping on the line? Are they clever enough to know the difference?
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How clever are birds? - Big Bad Dave
Probably the same reason people run away when they see a hungry tiger yet completely ignore some washing flapping on the line?
How clever are birds? - No FM2R
You say that only because you've never seen my neighbour's washing.
How clever are birds? - BazzaBear {P}
What about crows feeding on roadkill? They seem to be perfectly aware that cars in one carriageway are no risk to them, even when they're passing within a coupe of feet.
Of course, they're not that intelligent, otherwise they'd know about cars sometimes going onto the wrong side for overtaking.
How clever are birds? - Gromit {P}
The birds have learned that, though the flapping washing makes noise, it does them no harm, so they come to ignore it. Likewise, birds on farms or airfields that use automatic bird scarers (that fire blank cartridges at timed intervals) soon learn to ignore the boom-boom-boom.

They'll also ignore humans if the humans don't pose a threat (think of ducks coming to the water's edge to get fed in the park). And, of course, natural selection plays its role: the stupid ones misjudge the threats and get killed.

As to how measurably clever are birds, somewhere less than 1% of human intelligence I've been told. For comparison, dogs have approx. 5% and chimps approx. 95% of human intelligence.

(How long before the first "I know several people who could be outwitted by the thickest ape" jokes appears...?)
How clever are birds? - Stuartli
Blackbirds and robins, for example, don't seem to be too scared.

We have a pair of blackbirds who take no notice of us when we go out into the garden and even ignore the local cats for much of the time (although keeping a wary eye open), whilst robins like to be thrown worms when I'm digging the garden over.

As with virtually any animal it's a question of trust.
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How clever are birds? - Lud
Why is it that birds fly away when you go out
into the garden yet they completely ignore washing flapping on the
line? Are they clever enough to know the difference?
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About 20 years ago I was surprised to discover that commonplace-looking small birds - perhaps migratory as they looked familiar, wagtails and the like, but I'm not enough of an expert to know - would come within inches of one's knee in the Sahara desert, and pretty well eat out of one's hand, when the same creatures would stay well away in England. I have been puzzling about it ever since.
How clever are birds? - Baskerville
- would come within inches of one's knee in the Sahara
desert, and pretty well eat out of one's hand, when the
same creatures would stay well away in England. I have been
puzzling about it ever since.


Is there less to eat in the desert, hence hunger overcomes fear?
How clever are birds? - Lud
Seems the most likely explanation, but the desert isn't as barren as people think. Surprising amount of vegetation, insects and so on. However the Sahara is extremely big and quite variable from one place to another. I guess in the great seas of sand dunes there might be fewer birds and fewer of everything else living.
How clever are birds? - Rebecca {P}
Well I've got a degree ;o)
Domain names - Mapmaker
Domain names are freely available on the net, from as little as a couple of pounds a year. Google "domain name" and many agents will offer to sell you a name.

How does it work please? (I have googled, but without much success. If anybody can point me to a beginner's guide, that would be very helpful!)

You are given the option of a two year tenure for £2.50 a year. What happens in the third year? Does the lease payment go up?

What if the domain is held by an agency? The sort that sells domains for $600-$600,000? Once you've bought the domain, do you then pay your £2.50 a year?

How do you then go about hosting the domain? Where do you find a host? And how do you physically put your site onto that host? (The days of people dialing up into your own home computer are presumably long gone!)

Many thanks

Domain names - artful dodger {P}
All UK domain names are registered through Nominet.

Their website is www.nominet.org.uk

IIRC they have some useful information pages that should answer your questions.


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I read frequently, but only post when I have something useful to say.
Domain names - Dalglish
Once you've bought the domain, do you then pay your £2.50 a year?
How do you then go about hosting the domain? Where do you find a host? And how do you physically put your
site onto that host? (The days of people dialing up into your own home computer are presumably long gone!)

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as easy as 123, i hope - see www.123-reg.co.uk/instantsite/starter.shtml

Domain names - Sim-O
you will buy the domain name from nominet through a host, who will host your domain on on of their servers, they will give you all the details about accessing your website, and how big it can be and all those sorts of things in their t & c's.
As to how much and for how long that domain name is registered to you or how long you have to keep with a host is all down to you and the host.

My wife works at nominet and she says that the hosts that charge £2.50 and are virtually free tend to be pretty carp when it come to customer service and reliability.
I think it's a case of shopping around , looking closley at the t & c's and at what you want to do with it. If the site is just for a bit of fun and nothing serious then a cheap host would be ok, but if it is for a business use, definatley spend a bit more.
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Domain names - adverse camber
there are two seperate things here. Domain names are handled by registrars, nominet is the controlling agency for the uk.

When you buy a domain name you are in effect leasing it and have to then pay the fees. The company you buy the name through will usually offer a domain name hosting service where they provide domain name servers (google for DNS or bind) which handle the business of pointing requests for that domain name to the actual server that hosts the web site/mail server or whatever. they can do that through proper dns provision or through what is termed framed redirection. All the same in effect, you tell them where your web site is either by IP address or url (say whatever free web space your isp provides) and they point the domain name at that. Usually they will do some sort of mail direction as well.

Web hosting is another service, although often offered or bundled with name service stuff. Web hosting is simply the provision of space on a web server. Different levels give different levels of service an control, from heres 50mb of space through to here is your server.

names are cheap if bought through a registrar (nominet published fees are so silly as to be laughable) and no reason why they shouldnt be - it doesnt cost them much to provide the service.

web hosting runs from 3 or 4 $/month upwards.


123-reg are good and seem reliable in my experience (part of pipex) and they have an offer on at the moment. when you have bought the domain you configure it to point to whatever webspace you have available.

getting your stuff onto the web site can be done with ftp or a variety of tools/sitebuilders.

When buying domains check that you will be the contact (there are three types of contact associated with a domain, admin, technical and business) and that they dont charge some silly transfer fee to move to another registrar (which you might want to if you find that their dns is unreliable so people cant find your site)
Domain names - Sim-O
I wasn't too far wrong, seeingas I was only listening to SWMBO with half an ear.
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