Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - WipeOut
I live in Berkshire and have to commute 4 days a week into the city of London. For several years I've battled with the hopeless public train/tube system, but now enough is enough. I've tired of waiting, standing on delayed trains, unbareable heat, body odour (other peoples!), people sneezing over me, baggage been dropped on my head, excessive prices fares, extorinate parking.... you've got the picture I'm driving in.

I've got the parking sorted, at a very reasonable price.

Has anyone got good advice for surving driving in to central London on a week day basis!!!



Thanks WipeOut
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Pugugly {P}
1. Motorbike.
2. Hybrid (CC excempted, low tax, economical in Traffic
3. Don't
4. C Reg SWB Land Rover.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - WipeOut
1. Would love a motorbike, but I don't want go get killed.
2. Hybrid, got a new car in January and think the loss in dpereciation will never outweigh the cc exemption and marginal economy gain.
3. Try public transport.
4. Driven SWB Land Rover. Brilliant off-road, don't like them on-road.

Now for any serious bits of advice.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Lud
If your job is suitable and your body can stand it, you can do a lot worse than starting very early to avoid morning rush hour, which might also allow you to leave early to avoid the other one.

Whether you can do this or not, you will find that the traffic in London is a) probably not as bad as you fear, and b) very variable from day to day and week to week, so that one day you are thinking: 'Where is everyone?' and the next cursing: 'Where did all this carp come from?'

Listen to the news and jazz or classical music. R&B and the like will wind you up and make you tense. Stay calm. Don't worry about getting late, it just happens (easier said than done this, I never stay calm and get very anxious when late, but it's bad for you and you shouldn't).

Find alternative routes to and fro. Use back doubles. Following taxis down unlikely alleys will often bring you out quickly somewhere else, like going through a time warp.

Welcome to the permanent riot!
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Lud
And pay no attention to those who say it can't be done, or will be pure torture. They may be right, but they aren't helping much are they? Let them waddle slowly about in the provinces to their hearts' content. They won't be getting in your way anyway!
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - drbe
Listen to LBC 1152 AM, they have traffic reports every 10 minutes 'on the ones'

The FM sister LBC 97.3 FM has reports every 15 minutes during rush hours, every 30 minutes other times.

As Lud said if you can travel early - do so. Which way are you coming in? M4 - A4 etc, or M3 or A3?
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Armitage Shanks {p}
I think Pugugly has covered everything reasonable, despite your unhappiness with his suggestions. Unless you have a private helicopter I think that's it!
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Pugugly {P}
The Land Rover one was a joke (dofifng my hat at the previous thread)
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - mare
The Land Rover one was a joke (dofifng my hat at
the previous thread)


waves back
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - rtj70
But an 11-seat LWB Land Rover is exempt from the Congestion Charge - it is classed as a mini-bus. Would save lots.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - ziggy
1. Motorbike.
2. Hybrid (CC excempted, low tax, economical in Traffic
3. Don't
4. C Reg SWB Land Rover.



5. Move house
6. change jobs

Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Avant
I too live in Berks. and go to London on average about twice a week. It's the only journey I use the train for; I drive everywhere else.

I think the only thing that will work, as someone has suggested, is leaving very early - about 6.00 am and coming out no later than 4.00 pm.

I don't know where you live in Berks. but I find that driving to Twyford instead of Reading means I normally get a seat. You might consider driving to a different station: I think you'll still find driving stressful, especially if you have to go all the way to the City of London.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Altea Ego
If you have to drive in....

1/ you need the use of a sat nav to get by the accidents and jams.
2/ You need to leave early.
3/ you have chosen the WORSE journey possible to get to the city, you need to transverse all of west london and central london (dont even think of trying to make it over the thames and approach form the south or southewest)
4/ once you get into the congestion zone, driving is ok (even in rush hour)

I live much nearer than you, and a rush hour journey is no less than two hours each way, frequently three.

Stressful, very stressful unless its out of rush hour. 1 day a week of cancelled/late or stinking train, even 5 days of standing up is better than the constant, time consuming, draining car commute.


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Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Thommo
If you must do it by car then in early out early assuming your employer agrees. In late out late not the same or a better solution. Once problems occur they take forever to sort out. You need to be in before the problems and just hope your exit route is not blocked.

You say Berkshire, I'm assuming Reading you will need to leave by 5am latest. Can your system cope?
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Lud
Don't be alarmed by these guys. What you want is to come in off the M40, if convenient, and shunt down Marylebone/Euston Roads, which usually keep moving, to King's Cross, then veer off in the correct direction. Keep an open mind, study maps, try different routes. Satnav will mess you up for sure, if only because you will be looking at it rather than the traffic jostling close all around you.

Try a couple of dry runs if you have time. But if you can avoid 8-10 am and 5-7pm you will be doing yourself a slight favour. Do not expect consistency in London. It will vary.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - WipeOut
I did use Twyford station, but service from the station has steadily got worse over the last several years. You need to leave early to get a seat (be at the station before 7am), and the stopping services take a seeming eternity to get into Paddington. The 7:30'ish fast train is always packed! The Twford services uses trains with seats designed for midgets and the carriages often smell of urine. Recently I've used Reading station as the service is better, but I then sometimes get caught in Reading traffic. It drives me crazy to see my house from the train and realise that I've only just passed my home where I started my journey from and its taken 40 minutes! By that time I would be on outskirts of central London.

I'm planning to leave at 6am in the morning and have an agreement to leave work earlier to avoid the traffic.

I suffer badly with virus's and cold in the winter, and I feel that sitting in the train and underground is like been in a mobile Petri dish.

I'm looking forward to my own private space, climate control, guaranteed clean seat, not having to share other people's hygiene problems, listening to the radio, and less walking and standing.

Classic FM is a great tip, I'll try that.

WipeOut
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Micky
Move house.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Lud
Yeah, move into a cardboard box on the Embankment and walk to work. Mind you, it'll cost.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - ukbeefy
Yes, move..

Why are British people so keen to subject themselves to such long commutes ? I have German friends who whing if their commute reaches 30 mins.

Personally I could never commute further than zone 2/3 to central London. I live in Zone 2.

Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - colinh
I gave up and moved to Spain - surprising what you can do via the internet.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Round The Bend
I drove into the City from Norfolk for several years most days of the week. I found that driving was preferable to the train although my colleagues thought I was mad. Can offer the following thoughts:

1. Lud and TVM are right - leave early.
2. If you can't keep calm don't do it.
3. Once you are comfortable with a route stick to it but if you see cars regularly turning off at unusal places check a map .....they might have found a good rat run.
4. You will find that there is a "par time" for the journey which will vary rarely (barring accidents).
5. Friday evenings are always bad - especially in the Autumn (don't know why).



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Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - MokkaMan
Don't do it - change your job / business

If you must do it - set a finite time for how long you will do it

I am not sure that driving in will be much less stressful - slow moving traffic, people cutting you up, road rage, its a jungle out there

I lived in central London and commuted by tube for seventeen years (and three months but who is counting) and found it fairly awful. I am reminded of a story that happened to me one hot summer day, crammed in a carriage. A fellow Scotsman caught my I and said "Do you do this every day" - when I nodded in the affirmative - he said "The you must be "fill in a word of your choice" mad"

And he was right..................
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - jase1
I met a bloke on a train once who was commuting each day from BRISTOL into the City (I kid you not).

He must have a good job to think that is acceptable.

You're all mad dahn sarf. I get irritated by a 1hr commute to Newcastle.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Gromit {P}
I met a bloke on a train once who was commuting
each day from BRISTOL into the City (I kid you not).


That makes sense: he'd get from Temple Meads to Paddington faster than you'd travel driving from the outer suburbs to catch a tube.
You're all mad dahn sarf. I get irritated by a 1hr commute to Newcastle.


That's why I quit Dublin and moved to the west of Ireland...but that doesn't solve the OP's dilemma. Unless six months in the car gets him thinking "Relocation Relocation Relocation" too.

PS: If you do want to drive, Pugugly's motorbike suggestion really makes most sense of all. Have a good look at an OS map and find a cross-country route that keeps you off as many busy roads as possible. It must be doable - people were able to travel west from London before the M4 was built!
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Gromit {P}
WipeOut: if you travel via Twyford or Reading, is catching the the train from Henley, Winnerish or Maidenhead an option?

When I lived in Henly, then Reading, several of the smaller neighbouring stations had direct services on mornings and evenings only. If you can use one of these, it's more comfortable than trying to squeeze onto an already full train.

Also, does the coach shuttle service from Reading station to London still run? No overcrowding, and it can use the bus lanes.

I can't advise on what the fastest way into London is, but having done a similar commute into Dublin for three years (where the public transport is atrocious, and journey times even longer than London!) I would sugget that you drive for, say, three months and then compare your average journey time to using the train. Unless driving is much quicker, reassess whether the extra hassle is worth the extra comfort.

One last thought: are there any work colleagues along your route who would car pool? You could cut the number of days you have to drive - and hence the stress - but still enjoy the comfort of car travel.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - DP
I don't know whereabouts in London you work, but I find driving to Zone 6, leaving the car and Tubing the rest of the way works quite well. Advantages:

1) You always get a seat, as you're getting on within one or two stops of the start of the line.
2) Parking in Zone 6 is cheap (I pay £2 a day, but if I could be bothered I could park for free on the street within half a mile of the station)
3) No congestion charge
4) No driving through the really gnarly bits of London.
5) The comfort and convenience of car travel for a part of the journey.

I commute from the Surrey/Hants border to Baker Street every day using this method and it works pretty well. It's also less than half the price of using the train, even factoring in diesel and wear and tear on the car.

I cannot believe anyone uses the rail network to be honest. Tried it when I first started (Reading-Paddington) and I lasted a week. Dirty, smelly, ancient, unreliable trains with prehistoric slam door carriages, never got a seat, and £30 a day for the privilege. They can poke it quite frankly!

Experiment for a week and see how you get on. Ample, cheap parking at Ickenham Station which is 2 minutes from the Hillingdon exit of the A40, and when they're working the trains run about every 8-10 minutes. £7 return per day on Oyster into Zone 1, a bit cheaper on a season ticket, but I don't go in every day so I pay daily.

Cheers
DP
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Greg R
I work in London and have a very short commute to work (2 miles - 15 minutes on the motorbike). I have worked here for 1 1/2 years now, and plan to stay until 3 year plus. I work within the local authority, and I earn what I consider as a decent salary.

Because of my low level of experience, I will probably stay for 3 years min. It will look good on my CV as well.

I am certainly not a morning person, so a long commute would be a struggle. But I suppose if it has to be done, it has to be done. I wouldn't like to use the underground though! Maybe the bus would be ok, and I could read lots of books. So it wouldn't be the end of the world I suppose.

By car, however, it would be a hard drive into work. The traffic in london is really a nightmare! I drive on Fridays to Brighton from central london, and that can be a real nightmare. But maybe a positive mind would make it a lot better?

Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - No FM2R
>>What you want is to come in off the M40, if convenient, and shunt down Marylebone/Euston Roads, which usually keep moving, to King's Cross,

M40/M25 -> Marylebone Road frequently (3 or 4 times per month) takes me 2 hours.

Mind you, I have to say that the Chiltern Line is superb. Clean stations, station masters, various services (food, drinks, taxis), automated ticket purchase, reliable and by and large clean trains, virtually always get a seat, frequent buffet trolley, commuting with them is fine and by and large stress free.

I used Reading/Paddington about 2 weeks ago - Nasty.

I think the idea of driving in so far and tubign the rest is excellent. I used to do it leaving my car at Kew when I lived over that side.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Baskerville
Back in the late 1990s I commuted into London from East Kent three days a week. I tried it by car and by train and the train was by far the best. On a good day the car was an hour quicker than the train, but it was far less reliable. The journey could take 1 hour or it could take 4 hours. There was no way of predicting it. The train was always about 2 hours. In a year of doing it by train I was significantly delayed twice. I did the journey about four times by car and the journey time was significantly different on each occasion. Also the availability of the radio in the car was far outweighed by being able to work on the train (hence the three day week).

I'd hazard a guess that a decade later the train is better and the traffic worse than they were then.

Anyway, I went freelance after that experience, took a huge pay cut and a huge risk. And I still work much longer hours than I ever did on a salary. But even in the darkest, most penurious early days it was better than that commute.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - SteVee
As a keen cyclist, could you take a bike in the back of your car and cycle across London ?
Ok, so the clothing issue is a little difficult, but the push bike is one of the best means of transport in a city and would give a very predictable journey time.
It's also a buzz to get out of the office and get some decent exercise..
Chain the bike to your desk for that extra kudos :-)
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - WipeOut
I've thought about cycling and would love to, but last year a friend of mine was killed on the road (he left a wife and two children, killed by a speeding young driver), and another seriously injured (driver left him on the side of road unconscious). Both were careful responisble cyclists whom I have cycled with.

Road's aren't designed for bikes (most cycle lanes are lethal as you give up priority), the law doesn't do enough to protect cyclists and most motorist don't care, further because of a few inconsiderate cyclists we all get labelled lycra louts by Daily Mail readers!

Shame as I would love to cycle. If only I lived in Holland.

WipeOut

Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Lud
If you can leave at 6 your problems are not serious WipeOut. Traffic doesn't get really thick till about 8, so you should get to work ahead of it. Important to get your route worked out though.

Happy (or relatively unmiserable) commuting!
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Greg R
"Road's aren't designed for bikes (most cycle lanes are lethal as you give up priority), the law doesn't do enough to protect cyclists and most motorist don't care, further because of a few inconsiderate cyclists we all get labelled lycra louts by Daily Mail readers!"

Very cheap, good exercise etc. But the danger. I think London is especially bad because of ignorant drivers. I ride a motorbike: some areas are great to ride in without incident. Others are very scary. I consider myself a safe rider, and having heard loads of motorbike accidents, people dying on bikes etc etc; My observer when I was doing the IAM said I was very cautious - this guy was a very serious guy, and always made people pass the test first time. Really devoted to the job!

Obviously, being aware of all these things, it is horrible to get tailgaiters, ones who cut you up etc etc. I seem to drive defensively, so have avoided these things to date. Hopefully, I might get hit by a millionaire in his rolls royce, and he'll give my cash for a new motorbike once my bikes kapput!

Greg
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Garethj
I've commuted into London for 7 years, first living in Cambridgeshire and for the last 3 years in Bedfordshire.

Train isn't too bad if you're early enough, if you can be in the office by 7:45am you'll miss the worst of the rush.

During spring, summer and autumn I take the motorbike - it's a touch faster than public transport (but I chose the house in Bedfordshire for good transport links!) and it's much nicer.

Getting killed isn't compulsary, there's no reason you can't be a very good rider especially with some extra training. Training on bikes after passing the test seems to be much more common than with cars and there are courses to help you be a speed demon on track days or beat the courriers through the city.

I'll probably go back to the train and tube through the winter, but having a choice is quite a nice thing.

Aside from that, I like the suggestion of driving into zone 5 or 6, but don't underestimate the time it takes to cross London by tube either! I can get from Bedfordshire to South Kensington faster than a colleague can get there from Stratford in East London
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - stevied
Where is this "London"? It sounds very difficult to travel across/through/round.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Lud
Most of it is curled round the eastern and southern sides of Kensington & Chelsea, stevied, with a few random bits on the other sides of K&C.

To put it another way: it lies to the West of Dagenham.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - stevied
Ah I know it. That bit at the end of the M1 and M11. I've often thought about popping in to see what it's like. : )

I am of course joking, as you know I spent several years in the East End, sparring with the Krays and suchlike. I rarely drove into the City or West End, but I did enjoy pootling around the outer suburbs. I think "To the West of Dagenham" sounds like a good name for a novel.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - helicopter
Wipe Out - I sympathise with your dilemma. Even a helicopter would not help you to do that journey every day as even that nice Mr Al Fayed found out.

I recommend the drive so far and then commute way of doing the journey.

I lived in Surrey and commuted to Westminster for years and had a car park space if I needed it in the company underground car park .

Car travel into Central London just was too frustrating and took too long.Really , don't even think of it if you want to keep your sanity.

I think it is even worse now with traffic lights phased to hold you up, bus lane and speed cameras , congestion charges and the roads under Kens tender care.

I worked up there in the eighties at the time of IRA bombings and rail travel was massively disrupted so I bought a motor cycle and commuted .

I now have a twenty minute drive to work in UK and spend the time I save doing what I want to do.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - v0n
I think London
is especially bad because of ignorant drivers. I ride a motorbike:
some areas are great to ride in without incident. Others are
very scary. I consider myself a safe rider, and having heard
loads of motorbike accidents, people dying on bikes etc etc;


Ignorant drivers? I think the biggest problem on British roads is looney bikers. It's very easy to label everyone "ignorant drivers" and expect everyone to follow increasingly naive "Think!" capain adverts almost like every van, high stance car or car without back windows should have watchtower on the top with co-pilot on a lookout for a biker zooming twice the speed limit between cars in snake patterns.
Since the public view blame was shifted entirely onto car drivers I noticed bikers do a lot of stupid things these days. I see bike couriers putting their feet on bumpers of the cars to hold them down at lights, swarms of 50cc's blocking paths for turning, ride with main beam on (my personal pet hate - when blinded there is no way for driver to tell how far behind the bike is and they will automatically start swearving to avoid the light in their side mirrors), cutting in with "i know you have nowhere to go and will end up braking with your nose on the windscreen but you will let me in or else" attitude or blatant overtaking against incoming traffic in "whaddya gonna do - run me over?" kamikaze style.
Vehicle behind is responsible for their own actions. That includes motorbikes. If you don't leave enough room to brake, if you drive behind 4x4 or van and then suddenly emerge don't expect driver to be aware of your existance. Don't charge ahead presuming everyone is responsible for your safety and will do you favours, just presume noone knows you exist on the road and that everyone hates you. Be responsible for your own safety. Has nothing to do with ignorance of others, has everything to do with common sense.
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Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Garethj
Ignorant drivers? I think the biggest problem on British roads is looney bikers. Lots of ranting

Some refreshing new views there :-)

I thought the correct idea was: Car drivers - some are idiots, some are ok, bike riders - some are idiots, some are ok, bus drivers - some are idiots, some are ok etc

One thing's for certain, if you're looking for the lunatic in the BMW / motorbike / white van to do something stupid you'll be caught out by a stupid manouver from the Focus driver.

Anyway, back at the thread...... one other thing to consider is the way your office works. I'm fine to get in by 7:45 but it means everyone gives me black looks when I don't want to go into meetings at 5pm. Suggesting we hold the meeting the following day at 8am doesn't help either. Just something to thing about.

Gareth
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - DP
I don't think you can judge all motorcyclists by the actions of couriers (mostly complete loons) and L plated 50cc riders (here's your CBT which your grandmother could pass - off you go sunshine - have 2 years grace)

I agree with Gareth - some people shouldn't have licenses full stop. Most are OK, some are good. That applies to bike, car, PCV, HGV and any other category you can think of.

Cheers
DP
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - MokkaMan
The truth is that there are many reasons not to do the commute and only one reason (the green folding variety) to do it. Even if you think you have a worthwhile job, you are just a replaceable cog in the machine. London's population is transitory and few stay that long.

My wife an I earn much less than we did two yars ago when we left London but feel much happier. Crime rates are much lower out of London, so you feel safer as well. Up here in th Highlands the air is clean, people have much more space and there are far fewer vehicles on the roads - going for a drive is (shock!) enjoyable............

So its your money or your life
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - WipeOut
I'm fortunate in that my office is allowing me to start early and leave early. So I'll be leaving home at 6am to hopefully arrive around 7am and then leave work at 4pm. Luckily I have some business justification in that I work in IT and have to work with some of our teams in Singapore.

I would like to have a job close to home, but unforunately I'm free lance and the rates in Banking for experience IT staff are just too high to say no.

I'll give you guys an update next week on how it goes.

Thanks WipeOut



Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - ablandy
leave at 6 to get there at 7? sounds optimistic. I cant see it, but did you say where in london you have to go? I am always amazed by how busy the M25 is at that time of the day, same probably holds true for the m4 and m40 into town.

London is fun by car as long as you dont get stressed by the traffic.

An automatic is probably my best suggestion.

I think its funny that i can get to my customers in Birmingham faster than i can get to the ones in london (i live within the M25)!
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Smartdealer
Yep, I was going to suggest an automatic too. I've had to do some monster commutes over the years and I can honestly say that car choice definiteley comes into play for reducing the stress. A big quality relaxed auto makes a world of difference in my view. Armed with Sat/Nav and spending time researching alternative routes/rat runs also makes sense.

Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Big John
I also fancy an automatic for my commute, the problem is most automatics dont go into "lockup" until about 50mph so are very thirsty at lower speeds. The VW DSG looks interesting though.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Roly93
London is fun by car as long as you dont get
stressed by the traffic.

I suppose you consider being hit over the head with a crowbar is also 'fun' !
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - WipeOut
Just to let you know I've tried a week of driving in and so far it's gone well.

I left my house at 6am and usually got parked at around 7am, which isn't bad.

I leave work at 4pm and usually get home by 6pm.

I generally find it less stressful, except for the odd suicidal motorbiker I've had to avoid.

I'm off to test drive a Toyota Prius, as I now want an economical automatic car. Avoiding the congestion zone is another bonus!

Long term I'm going to have to look for a change of lifestyle, but I've got mortgages to pay.

Wipeout

Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - peterb
"I've got mortgages to pay"

Mortgages plural?
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - daveyjp
To pick up on part of another thread

5. Friday evenings are always bad - especially in the Autumn (don't know why).

It is always busier in Autumn regardless of day.

A few reasons:

Many companies run Jan-December holiday periods, by the end of the year most of the holiday entitlement is used up, so people are at work rather than taking leave.

It's the run up to Christmas - winter holidays abroad are not taken as Christmas is an expensive time of year.

Those on holiday are probably Christmas shopping thereby adding to the traffic.

Increased delivery vehicles stocking shops with Christams goodies

After Christmas, new leave period, need to get away, winter holiday season starts etc etc.

The clocks going back - increase in accidents with associated hold ups. Darker, wetter conditions reduce average traffic speed.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - WipeOut
Yes plural.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Xileno {P}
A bloke I used to work with had six mortgages. He jumped on the buy-to-let bandwagon some years ago.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Greg R
Ignorant drivers? I think the biggest problem on British roads is looney bikers. Lots of ranting


Whatever the problem, I believe there are bad and good car drivers, bus drivers, lorry drivers etc. It is a gross generalisation to say that all bike riders are looney. That is completely wrong, but does prove that peoples mentality is to blame! Again, ignorance. I think overall, motorbike riders are pretty good riders, and it sounds wierd but a car driver can never really understand the skill and experience needed to ride a motorbike until they do it themselves. Compared, cars are very easy to drive. Just think of one thing. When I drive my car and someone hits me, I will be ok. If someone hits me on the bike, I will have broken bones, fall off bike etc. So, any rider with a brain would know that they need to ride to a very high standard.

I think rush hour drivers in London are good drivers overall, when driving outside these hours do I usually find the insane drivers out there.
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - WipeOut
Yesterday (Monday) was very easy with the traffic. Must be the school holiday factor!

Driving so far has been far better than the train and underground.

WipeOut

Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Lud
Glad (and somewhat relieved) that the prophets of doom have been proven wrong so far.

Do yr employers provide parking and pay the congestion charge for you WipeOut? Because 8 quid plus a day's parking in the City five times a week would start to mount up.

And how did you like the Prius?
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - WipeOut
I've found parking nearby in central London which is almost the same annually as parking in central Reading station car park!

I work for myself so pay the CC and parking from my company. The cost doesn't bother me, I would rather be comfortable. I also have a flexible work agreement so can work at home quite a bit. In fact this work I spending most of the week at home. My client is very good with things like that.

My Prius arrives early next week, possible this weekend. I had two test drives last weekend and I think it will be an excellent car for comuting into London. It's a relaxed easy drive and should be ideal. Plus I make a saving on CC. It's not a performance/sports car, but I've got another car in the garage for that, and I don't need a perfomance car in London for crawling in traffic. I really wanted a comfortable automatic car, and originally thought of a Golf. But once you start looking at DSG (automatic Golf's) they get very pricey, and the Prius start to look very reasonable. I also got a very good deal on a Prius.

WipeOut
Advice: Long Term Commuting into London - Lud
What fun. I seem to remember HJ quite liked them (of course he's a car freak and finds something to like in most cars), and I believe shunting through urban and slowish A road traffic is where they are at their most economical, although hurrying down the motorway they are less so.

They are certainly very quiet from the outside. Remember pedestrians can't hear you coming. There are quite a lot about in my bit of London now.
 

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