I recently drove a V6 Accord Coupe whilst looking for a new car. Compared to the 2.2 Prelude I ended up buying I would say its much more of a grand tourer / 2 door saloon than a sports car. If thats what your looking for I would say its an excellent car, with Honda's usual superb engineering.
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Thanks for all your comment.
Out of interest which year Preludes do you guys have, the 2.2 Vtec is a very quick car? Maybe it would be more what I was looking for.
Thank you.
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Hi 24Seven,
I have owned my 5th Generation (Final Shape) Prelude for about 2 weeks, it has the 197 BHP version of the 2.2 Vtec engine, with an alleged 0-60 of 6.7 seconds. However in the Vtec powerband (Over 4200 revs) it feels quicker. It also has 4 wheel steering which helps both the handling at speed and when parking.
If your looking for a seriously well engineered drivers car, which is very smart in an understated way it could be exactly what you are looking for.
Only possible down sides are lack of space in the back seats (no concern to myself, but rear 2 seats only really suitable for young children for long journeys) and insurance (Group 17 - but actual quote from RAC suprisingly reasonable).
Hopefully another driver with more experince might have feedback relating to longer ownership, but in my opinion its a brilliant drivers car, with none of the 'image' some of the other older Japanese and German performance cars seem to portray. (Is that a nice way to say the Chav's haven't got to it yet? :) )
DC
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I've just come back from a 2,000-plus kilometre tour of Eastern France, Germany, Luxembourg and Belgium a week after accidentally leaving my 55k 2.2 Vtech SSS Prelude (bought on a whim a year and 12,000 miles ago) running all night (see previous thread).
Mine has the 197bhp engine (I think) and the Vtech cuts in at 5300 rpm, which is when life gets to be real fun. The four-wheel steering is brilliant as well, esp in cramped multi-storey car parks and the sort of swinging, undulating back roads that are good for bikes as well.
I concur with all the remarks above - we don't need the back seats so that doesn't matter and it has the factory Motegi bodykit which - in the opinion of both myself and HJ - give it more presence.
It's actually more comfortable than our old Accord coupe, which is still the shopping car, and it refuses to budge from 33mpg on 95 unleaded whether you pussyfoot or cane it.
Don't know about the chavs, but in France, Switzerland and - it seems - Germany and Luxembourg the boy racers have dressed up old CRXs or Civic Coupes so they actually smile at you when they see the Prelude!
I probably won't keep it much longer - my son has his eye on it and I keep thinking about life with an NSX before I get too old - but I think it's a very worthwhile motor. Enough said? Phew...
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Out of interest which year Preludes do you guys have,
I have the 2.3i 4WS, 181000 miles and still going strong (well it was until someone stoved in the side yesterday!!!, see car parking accident thread). As others have said the back seats are for small people only, I am finding the front seats less and less comfortable as my spare tyre is expanding, and the expansion also causes more problems getting in and out of it, as it is a low coupe. As for repairs - the car has been in the family from new, it was the father in laws company car first so we know the full history - for the mileage it has had very few repairs - in the last 5 years and 40k it has had a new sump, a new radiator, 1 abs sensor and new oil seals on the balance shafts - none of which are excessive if you look at the age and mileage. Having said that the ABS light has just come on again and it sounds like it could be the unit this time,so will wait until after the bodywork is done before I get that looked at. As it is a '93 on a K plate it does suffer from some body rot which you have to keep on top of! As for driving, it is a drivers car, loves to be revved hard and thrown around in the corners, great fun on a big roundabout as the 4WS just hugs the road - if you want relaible fun then get one, ours has never refused to start even with oil pouring out of the failed balance shaft seals!!! Even the old ones like ours are still worth getting.
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I've never driven one of these Honda coupes but there are plenty about down my way.What's the driving position like ??? is it kind of lying down ?? and if so what's it like for a someone with a dodgy back??
Just interested, cheers
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The driving position doesn't feel as low as the Legend coupe I had although it is a bit 'legs straight'. I prefer to drive 'straight arms' if I can so it suits me well.
My back is a bit iffy and I have a dodgy right knee, which is why I still drive a RHD car in a LHD country - I find it easier to get in and out. The driver's seat is height adjustable and I don't have any problems with access. Both I and SWMBO agree the Prelude is more comfortable on a long journey than our old Accord.
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Oops, sorry. Did you mean the Accord, not the Prelude? A victim of over-enthusiasm speaks...
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Not sure what happened to all my text there...I wrote a long post too! Admins, perhaps you can tidy my duff posts please?
Try again..
Sorry to resurrect a 5 yr old thread, but 5yrs after the original poster sought info I too am keen to know of people's experiences of running an Accord Coupe, particularly the 3.0V6. I am very keen on one as my runabout. Buying one (they are cheap now), taxing, insuring and fuelling it are not a problem. I only do a few thousand miles a year and I have a reasonable budget to maintain it. From the selection of those advertised online, and Honda's in general, they seem to take high miles with little problem. However I accept that they are now getting a bit old, so if a massive bill a dead cert or if they have known issues I'd steer clear.
There is little chatter online about these cars, or their faults hence this post. HJ's CbyC entry is now 4yrs old, so issues could be surfacing.
Any info gratefully received
Thanks!
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Sorry - no idea why your first posts didn't work, but glad you persevered!
If you look on the Reviews section of this site, click on Honda and scroll down to the bottom of the list, you'll see a review of each model of the Accord. Not the coupe specifically, but I think it was mechanically the same as the saloon. Hope this may help.
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The Coupe followed the simple formula of other saloon-to-coupe's over the years, basically the same car but with two doors and a big engine.
I like the Coupe alot, i think its an under rated car in terms of its looks and one with a good service history should be pretty good going.
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I recall a comment of a Accord Coupe V6 driver.
The Accord 3 ltr Coupe did everything his former MB coupe did but the Honda was 1/2 the price with fautless reliability over 4/5 years. This comment was at least 5/6 years ago as the owner had bought the Honda Coupe brand new.
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Hi,
Would anyone be able to value a silver 1999 T 3.0V6 with 93k miles please?. It's got full service history (mostly main dealer) and millions of bills.
Couple of online valuations seem absurdly high, and there is a wide range of asking prices.
thanks!
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Very difficult to put a value on a rare car like this: it's worth what someone will pay for it, and that someone has to want that particular car.
I looked on Autotrader and there are 5 3-litre coupes for sale: four under £2,000 and one at just under £3,000 - all about the same vintage.
i'm not sure if you're trying to sell it or just insure it.
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Thanks Avant. Realise it was a tricky one.
I am buying it. Or rather have bought it in fact!! It's a treat to myself.
I have agreed £1250 with the seller and am very excited about picking it up tmrw. It's a silver one with dark leather. 3 owners from new and 93k with full history (almost all main dealer). It's been properly maintained and to me felt like it was made yesterday. I hope it will waft me and the family about for a good few years.
Will post an ownership report after a month or so for those who are interested in bargain basement luxo barges.
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As my user name may suggest I’m a bit of a Honda lover...
one thing I would say about the V6, it does have an issue with the auto-box around 120-150k mark. As result the fluid must changed more regularly in the higher miles as debris build up in the passages and can starve the clutch bands of fluid. I've seen 17 die over the years even with FSH, as Honda or most garages won’t even touch the ATF, but it’s just as vital as the engine oil. I myself have owned one from 60k and no she’s topping 270k and US boys don’t believe I’m still on the same transmission. So just remember when your taking the V6 out for a long cruise or just giving all those cheap BMW’s and Audis a thrashing at the traffic lights, make sure your transmission is serviced. As running on dirty or old fluid will untimely lead to early death, as the gearbox will overheat and failure is guarantee...
Happy motoring
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Looking forward to hearing the ownership report. Coule be interested in one of these myself in the new year.
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I'm still driving my Prelude 2.2 SSS five years on. Just haven't been able to find anything suitable to replace it that is half as nice to drive - V6 coupes are very rare over here (France) - although it is finally getting to feel just a little bit tired, and a bit battered after a close encounter with a wild boar.
I met a strange bloke with a V6 coupe a couple of years ago in a village on the coast near Bordeaux. He had a sticker on the back of it with a rather suggestive cartoon and the words 'sex cylindres'.
Takes all sorts...
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Hello,
I'm about 6 weeks into loving ownership of this car now.
Sorry for lack of review! I honestly didn't think anyone would be interested in what it's like to own a 12yr old, unfashionable, thirsty, soft Japanese Coupe.
I will certainly post a proper ownership review later! An executive summary would be start looking in AutoTrader now...
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To SamPazza (and anyone else interested in these)
Accord Coupe V6's are fantastic cars. I've had mine for just over 6 weeks now and absolutely adore it. If like me you don't do too many miles, can tolerate low to mid 20's mpg and fancy a coupe then read on.
Everything that people have already said in this 5yr old thread is spot on. They are definitely cars of the "waft" variety, majoring on comfort, refinement and effortless power. They are extremely quiet and relaxing cars. They are definitely not sporty however so if that's what you're after an Accord Coupe V6 is completely the wrong choice - it's too big, too soft and the 4 speed auto will not satisfy. There is a 2.0 4-cylinder model with a manual (a la Mike Hannon from this thread) that might be pointier and squirtier but in my opinion this car is at it's best with the 3.0V6, ideally in silver with dark leather of course!
I've yet to see another since getting mine, so you get rarity too if you care about that sort of thing!
Specwise, they're all the same. Honda chucked pretty much everything at it from the time. Massive leather heated seats (drivers is electrically adjustable), full climate control, electric windows, mirrors, sunroof, remote locking etc.. It's a very nice car to travel in. Many cows gave their lives to make the interior (rouched leather on doors is quite funny), thick carpets throughout, puddle lights on doors etc. They're properly posh cars, albeit in a slightly dated, Japanese fashion if that makes any sense. Quick note on the stereo - the original standard stereo's were Bose tape (!) units with 6 speakers. Most have had the head units replaced now of course (mine has a Alpine with iPod connection in glovebox and bluetooth handsfree, which I would recommend as an essential "modernisation" mod). The rear speakers have amps in them and the sound quality seems fab, helped maybe by the low noise levels of the car. Front seat passengers live like lords, rear seats are a little tight on legroom and headroom for adults, but there are 3 proper seatbelts at least. We have two young kids so it will do us for years to come. The boot is absolutely massive - very useful - and the seats fold down too.
Performance is good when you boot it and the sound of the V6 when the VTEC kicks at higher revs is lovely. I would say though that the engine probably gets more stars for refinement, quietness and smoothness than outright performance. There are plenty of cars that would see it off. I think 0-60 is about 8secs (seems about right!) and top end is 140mph (not tested but entirely believable from gut feel).
The Honda engineering throughout is hugely impressive. It all just works, perfectly, after 12 yrs.
Costs - looking through all the invoices it seems to enjoy front discs and brakes! Tyres are standard 16" efforts so not particularly pricey. Exhaust has two back boxes and will probably cost £500 to replace middle and two backs when the original one eventually wears out. This does seem a stand out expensive item but then it's been on there 12yrs so you wont have to replace it often!
Buying one - they're not exactly popular or in demand are they! Seek out the very best example you can find with full history and all the bills, expect absolutely everything to be working and expect the car to drive beautifully and be in super condition as they really are engineered to last. I imagine £2k would be the absolute tops you should ever pay for a low mileage minter, but honestly, a really good one doesn't command more than about £1300. There's plenty out there for less than a grand, but at this almost bangernomics level why skimp? Buy the best, maintain it properly and I challenge anyone to find a nicer car for the pittance you pay for these.
Go and buy one!
Sorry this was so long!
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Here we are again.
I bought a very good one-owner example several years ago. I don't do a great mileage and it has been the most enjoyable car I have ever owned. I am now 58 and these cars are obviously for the mature driver.
I have had all the disks replaced. A bespoke stainless exhaust with cat fitted (£600) from a specialist - it sounds brilliant. I bought a complete set of allow wheels and new tyres from eBay for £100. There is no need to spend big.
It may be a Yanky Doodle but I wish I'd bought Honda when younger. I have had many a money pit over the years. How much would I have saved if I'd been a Honda owner.
The only niggle is parking. The edges are invisible. It took some getting used to.
Otherwise it offers everything I need from a car. If I need to carry a big load I use my wife's Discovery (now there is a money pit.,..).
Edited by AcuteViewer on 09/05/2014 at 10:44
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wow these hondas sound good. I usedto love the old Civic type R, and then they went and changed it so it looks like pretend spaceship for pensioners.
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Well, fancy seeing this thread again.
Just an update: our 2-litre Accord coupe is still giving satisfaction to a French Honda enthusiast owner; I finally let the Vtec Prelude go to the boyracers last year - nearly broke my heart; now our hack is a diesel (because this is France) Accord auto with no soul at all. I regularly see a nice V6 Accord coupe in Limoges and lust after it every time.
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wow these hondas sound good. I usedto love the old Civic type R, and then they went and changed it so it looks like pretend spaceship for pensioners.
They are good.
and then they went and changed it so it looks like pretend spaceship for pensioners.
Still a great motor and mostly young drivers own them,I bought one partly because they look different, too many cars look similar today imo
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I've still got mine! It's 15 years old next month. No rust, no issues except the usual drink problem at the pumps! These things were definitely built to last.
Look forward to seeing this thread in another 3 years.
I still challenge anyone to find a better car for the (almost zero) money these cost now. Just make sure you get the V6 to enjoy yourself.
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Given that this thread is persisting in 2014 i thought I'd jump in and offer some information too.
First off, I love my Accord. It was my father's and passed to me when he passed; so beyond how much i enjoy the car, there is the sentimental value too.
That having been said, mine has not proven to be cheap. An exhaust cost me £1200 when it snapped in the middle and when an Essex pot hole wrote off an alloy i was looking at £400 per alloy shipped from Belgium. I bought 4 new alloys with tires for £800 on the logic that i'd rather spend £100 replacing a wheel when British roads claim another victim.
The brake lines under the car are housed in a form of trunking which retians puddle water and can lead to rot, so keep an eye on this. Also the whole gearbox issue can be a problem. Apparently the gearbox runs very hot by design and if you use standard oil or oil with special treatments, it will boil in the gearbox and give you all sorts of woes. The original oil was ATF Z1, but appears to have been replaced by ATF DW1 (synthetic). I also read that the gearbox has to be drained and replaced three times to flush it as pressure flushers will do damage. Finally on gearboxes, apparently you take oil readings with the engine off - which appears to be unusual; leaving the engine running can cause damage to gearbox, dipstick or both. I would recommed a Google for yourself if you ever need the gearbox looked at.
About 5 years back, so around 2009 or 2010, my 1999 Accord was recalled by Honda to have its dashboard lights overhauled for free. The behind-dial illumination had failed and a Honda main dealer recified this for me at no cost. Not sure if this is still being honoured but worth a look if it's an issue for you.
Also, my car had issues starting in hot weather, the symptom was it felt like someone had pulled off the HT lead to the distributer. No starter noise or attempt to start when the key was turned. The fault lie in the ignition switch box, behind and under the dash, probably situated directly above the accelerator pedal. It transpires that the solder cracks over time and when the cabin of the car is hot, that heat causes the metal in the box to expand and lift the cracked solder off its contacts. A new one cost me about £15 and i fitted it myself (upside down on the drivers seat with my head between the brake and accelerator - you might want to get someone else to do this for you).
Exhaust aside, none of my issues have been terribly expensive, but the rarity of the car and the somewhat idiosynchratic nature of its problems has caused me some heartache over time. Had someone compiled this list for me way back when, it would have spared me a lot of money on cabs.
Running costs - if you drive like me the car will happily consume front tires and brakes, and will require on-going tracking; this despite the fact that i drive like i'm drunk avoiding potholes. Sadly it's impossible to dodge them all and they do take their toll. Also as has been mentioned, there seems to be no way to drive frugally.
Having said all this, i will keep the car until it falls to pieces like the vehicle in the Blues Brothers film. I love how it looks and drives, i enjoy the fact that it blends being understated with being individual and as i mentioned, for me it's like a family heirloom.
I think the car can be cost effective, particularly given what you get for its second hand purchase price, but you do need to be informed before hand.
I just hope my list of issues helps someone enjoy their car and resolve problems before they induce hair-pulling-outness.
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Hello yet again.
The Accord V6 coupe I sometimes see in Limoges is now for sale on 'Leboncoin', the French free ads website. The guy wants 8,000 euros for it! Down from his original 10k! French prices are usually fanciful but that seems even more stratospheric than usual. I won't be buying it then.
Oddly enough, there's another on the same website, about an hour south of here, for which the guy wants 4k euros. 155k kilometres and visibly knocked about (as most French used cars are, whether private or trade), so I won't be rushing after that one either.
Who knows though, one day, if I trip over the right one...
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Thought I would share my luv for these coupes and a bit of info, Firstly I cannot think of another car I would prefer to own, and I've had my experiences with German stuff and this car ticks all my boxes, despite them getting old and rarer each year.
Secondly I've just joined a relatively new UK club which luvs these coupes as not many other Honda forums have much info on them unless your going on the American sites. Anyway its run by the Honda Man and he's got a couple of these coupes and he's a very helpful guy, well worth checking it out as there are already coupe owners on the site to including myself.
Just Google Synergy Honda
Hope to see you over there, my user is 1stcoupe
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Well you just can't kill this thread can you! Bit like Accord Coupes.
After nearly 3yrs of happy ownership I am selling mine, mainly because with the kids getting bigger a 4door is more convenient but also because I fancy a change. I have scratched a persistent itch and bought myself a 2003 9-5 Aero saloon. Picking it up next weekend.
This scratched itch will probably go horribly wrong and if so I will be back in an Accord coupe soon! They really are very very good cars, with their only fault being the mpg is a bit poor for the performance.
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I have scratched a persistent itch and bought myself a 2003 9-5 Aero saloon. Picking it up next weekend. This scratched itch will probably go horribly wrong.......
There can be little niggles with Saabs, as with any car, but don't despair too soon if you have a few teething problems. Lots of friendly people at www.saabtechtalk.com (other websites are available!) to give you advice. My 9-5 Aero estate auto is also 2003, and is currently still running well on mostly original parts (including turbo and exhaust) at 213,000 miles. Biggest tip for a long mechanical life: change oil and filter every 6,000 miles!
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Thanks Mike H - I confess I am very much looking forward to owning an Aero. Mine has done exactly half the miles of yours, which is encouraging.
Couple of enquiries for the Honda today (it's the silver one in Poole on AT if I am allowed to say that!) but no viewings yet.
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Well the Coupe is sold and the 9-5 Aero has arrived. Very pleased so far!
I'll monitor this thread as an ex Accord V6 owner from now on!
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The coupe in Limoges is now on €6,000 - that's about £5k in real money. If it drops to 4k I am going to get really twitchy...
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You should get a UK one. I know it will be RHD, but they are worth about £500 to £1000 here!
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I know lots of people here are commenting on the wafting qualities of the Coupe but about 10 years ago I followed one for quite a few miles on French roads heading for LeMans, into and out of roundabouts it didn't seem to wafty and wasn't too slow on the bits between. I did get past but had to try pretty hard despite being in an S2000.
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