Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Dynamic Dave

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Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Dynamic Dave
Heard on the local radio whilst driving home just now that despite the horendous crash, Richard got to his feet and went for a short walk

A quick google found the following:-

"In the wee small hours of Thursday night, just 30 hours after what is almost certainly the world's fastest ever car crash, Richard Hammond suddenly sat up in bed, opened his eyes and asked what had happened."

Clarkson, who told him he had been in a car accident, said that Hammond then got out of bed and walked shakily to the lavatory.

express.lineone.net/news_detail_pa.html?sku=115898...1

No doubt the BBC & ITV news pages will catch up soon.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Honestjohn
There has been a gap between the unofficial news and the official news, to the extent that a tip I had over the phone from a tv production company was two days ahead of the SKY/BBC blokes standing outside the hospital. I couldn't tell you either. Frustrating, but that is often the case.

HJ
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - cheddar
I am not an expert though I guess it is difficult to be sure about the effects of a severe blow to the head in the early stages hence the somewhat measured responses from the hospital.

However the walk to the loo together with comments along the lines of 'not a mark on him but for a black eye' seem to indicate that his injuries are - thankfully - perhaps less serious than first thought, maybe even not much more than severe concussion.

This is really not something to speculate over however fingers crossed that this is the case.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - PhilW
From today's Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006...l

"James May, Hammond's Top Gear colleague and a Telegraph Motoring columnist, said yesterday he had seen a remarkable improvement in his friend's condition since visiting him on Thursday.
"Although I said he seemed to be doing OK yesterday, his voice wasn't right," he said.
"When I got to his room today, however, he immediately insulted me in his loud, squeaky voice which shows he is making excellent progress.
"His powers of recovery are little short of amazing. I've left him a classic car magazine and I fully expect him to have purchased another heap of old rust when I return to see him in a couple of days."
He added that Hammond, 36, was able to sit up in bed and speak to his mother and father "in a perfectly normal voice".
With assistance, he was then able to have a "wobbly walk around".

Sounds promising (and remarkable!!)



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Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - oldgit
My eyes are watering somewhat at hearing what is, hopefully, accurate and good news. All this, despite being one who is not all that fond, now, of TG, I'm sorry to say. However, get well soon Richard so you can return ,fit and healthy to your lovely family and friends.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Hamsafar
Well, all good news, and shows you should never trust the papers to tell the truth in the detail.
What's more he is now living proof that speed doesn't indeed kill as we were led to beleive.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - tr7v8
Good article here from JC.

www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006440317,00.html
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Honestjohn
Have added the important JC quote to Top Gear thread volume 25. Top Gear is now going to need all the support it can get. Please continue discussion of that topic in Top Gear thread 24. But also please avoid further discussion and speculation over the cause of the accident (for legal reasons).

HJ
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Dalglish
But also please avoid further discussion and speculation over the cause of the accident (for legal reasons).
HJ

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jeremy clarkson sums it all up very well in the sun article linked to just above hj's post.

Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Westpig
what a superb article......... had me chuckling over a subject that is far from funny......... this is why car lovers/petrol heads or whatever we call ourselves like TG and the presenters on it...

down to earth, say it as it is, no nonsense and NO NANNY STATE
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - MikeTorque
What's more he is now living proof that speed doesn't indeed
kill as we were led to beleive.


Ashok - are you bonkers or what ! What killed Donald Campbell ? What killed the kid over the road the other day ?
Answer - SPEED as in a non-stationary projectile containing a person or hitting a person.

I'm glad Richard Hammond is still alive and hopefully he'll make a full recovery and be able to tell us what really happened.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Honestjohn
By Mike Torque's definition the SPEED of a building collapsing on someone during an earthquake kills him rather than the earthquake or the building collapsing. SPEED alone does not kill. Hitting something or being hit by something or the forces of rolling AT SPEED can kill but the SPEED at which this happens is never the only factor. Ashok is far from bonkers. He is factually correct.

HJ
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - cheddar
Agreed, it is the collision that is the problem not the speed.

It is far more dangerous to hit something at 15mph that to not hit any thing at 300mph.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - oldgit
Newton's laws of motion........................"a body continues in its state of rest or uniform motion unless acted upon by an external force" i.e. in the case of someone in a car at a uniform speed, if the vehicle is suddenly stopped the body will continue to progress at that speed unless stopped by the vehicle surrounding them, obviously with serious consequences.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - GregSwain
Agree with HJ.

When people say "speed kills", I always imagine Michael Schumaker spontaneously combusting when his car reaches 180mph! What absolute nonsense - Boeing 747s travel at over 500mph, with 400 people on board - speed doesn't kill.

Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Robin Reliant
If life were made so safe that all accidents were completely eliminated, the end result would still be the same. Everybody on the planet would end up dead.

Let's have a bit of fun while we are here.
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Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - MikeTorque
Let's not get hung up or legalistic about the word "SPEED", call it motion if it helps.

Try telling the couple over the road their child was killed last week by a stationary vehicle, NO it was moving, motion was involved. Yes several factors came together that created the situation which involved a car hitting a child and that child is now dead. The fact is the car was moving at more than 30mph, were it moving at less than 30mph that child may still be alive today, SPEED/motion was involved in the death of that child. SPEED/motion was involved in the incident with Richard Hammond, he wasn't injured as a result of sitting in a stationary car.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Caveman
And there was me thinking there was another thread for talking about speeding!

On a spearate note, I think it was HJ that mentioned about dragster cars being very strongly built. I've seen accidents at Santapod where the drag car has been going in excess of 250mph before hitting the concrete wall. The strength of these cars is a testiment to the builders of them, and more often than not the driver survives to fight another day.

Get well soon Richard.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - lordy
Fantastic news about hamster. I'm sure it will not be long before he makes an appearance on TV giving his version of events. I can't remember the last time there was such GENUINE concern from so many people for the wellbeing of someone in the public eye. When he reads the papers from the previous few days, I'm certain he will be shocked that he is so well thought of.

Have to agree with Robin Reliant; ban everything dangerous, and you will still be left with something considered dangerous. As the late, great Bill Hicks once said - "I've got news for you folks......non-smokers die every day".
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Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - 1066
the motion or speed didnt kill the hypothetical child. the child killed himself by walking into the road and into thre path of a moving car. pavements are for walking and roads for vechicles. there is a clear distiction in the form of kerbs and lots of signs.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Dynamic Dave
Can we keep discussion in this thread to RH please. If you wish to discuss general speeding issues, then take it to the relevant speeding related threads. That is what they are there for.

Many thanks, DD.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - jase1
Can you imagine the mileage Hamster is going to make out of all this in a couple of months when he's well enough to appear on TV again? World's fastest car-crash survivor -- classic.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Honestjohn
But "World's Fastest Ever Car Crash"? I think Craig Breedlove and Art Arfons might disagree.

HJ
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Lud
I seem to remember Donald Campbell's turbine Bluebird looking somewhat the worse for wear after a high-speed incident too.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - cheddar
Bearing in mind his chute had deployed he was probably doing well under 200 mph when he veered off the track.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Lud
Just a minor traffic nerf then.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - David Horn
"It'll just buff out, mate."
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Robin Reliant
Sky News are reporting that RH has now been moved from a high dependancy unit into a normal ward. Looks like the prospects of a full recovery are good.

His wife said that he wants no more flowers because of the stick he would get from JC and RM, but instead send a donation to the Yorkshire Air Ambulance Service.
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Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Dynamic Dave
but instead send a donation to the Yorkshire Air Ambulance Service.


For those people who haven't yet seen it, I've added some info on how to also donate to other Air Ambulance services in the sticky message at the top of the page.

DD.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Leif
I am not an expert though I guess it is difficult
to be sure about the effects of a severe blow to
the head in the early stages hence the somewhat measured responses
from the hospital.
However the walk to the loo together with comments along the
lines of 'not a mark on him but for a black
eye' seem to indicate that his injuries are - thankfully -
perhaps less serious than first thought, maybe even not much more
than severe concussion.
This is really not something to speculate over however fingers crossed
that this is the case.


The problem with a brain injury is that swelling and/or internal bleeding may not have external symptoms, but they can cause serious injury and/or death. I would not be surprised were it to take him 6 months or more to get back to normal, though hopefully it will be much quicker and Clakrson and his sidekick will once more have a fall guy to lay into. (And more importantly someone to puncture Clarkson's ego.)
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Micky
Was hamster wearing a Hans device? The crash helmet should not have struck the rollcage under any circumstances, and the rollcage should have withstood anything the rocket car and Elvington could throw at it. However, brain damage can result from high levels of g during rolling even if there is no physical contact. So small stature is good.

I hope he makes it ...... where's the video? ;-)

It's not the initial speed of the crash, it's the decel that matters. A fall off a pushbike at 10mph can kill, instantaneous g = high. Breedlove survived a 600+mph "incident".

Why are the BBC at risk from prosecution? I thought Klaxon owned the production company that made Top Gear, so the risks should be his, not the taxpayers.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Fullchat
It is somewhat ironic that as the 'Crime Scene' thread came to a close this dreadful incident occured at Elvington involving the much respected 'Hamster'.

Just to remind you that one school of thought on that thread was that the Police spend too long on road closures causing chaos for other motorists whilst investigating collision scenes.

Judging by the widespread interest and well wishes for 'the Hamster' I would suggest that as we all have a shared interest in all things related to motor cars, we will all no doubt, be interested in finding out the outcome of the investigations which have been handed over to the HSE. Those investigations will be meticulously investigated and looking at mechanical failure, track conditions etc etc. the one person who may fortunately be able to give some idea as to what went wrong may or may not be able to provide some evidence as to what happened.

As the incident occured on private land then the impact on the road networks was negative. Now just consider that an incident involving a loved one occured on the road network would you not still require the same level of investigation??
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Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Altea Ego
Oh for gods sake.

1/ The elvington runway is not a major motorway with 50,000 vehicles a day,
2/ Everyone knows that traveling at 300 mph is dangerous
3/ No-one here is really that interested in the why, just that he is ok
4/ No -one else is involved

Trying to match this with keeping a major road closed for 8 hours is frankly clutching at straws.

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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Fullchat
TVM I dont have to clutch at anything. I am just making a comparison and a point.
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Fullchat
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - cheddar
>>2/ Everyone knows that traveling at 300 mph is dangerous>>

No, it is an important distinction, it is the hitting something at 300 mph that is dangerous, the speed makes the impact greater and the chance of injury greater though without the impact 300mph is safe.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - GregSwain
It's not the speed, it's the sudden change in speed. F=ma? Newton's 2nd law of motion? (who said A-level physics was useless!)

If you come to a halt from any speed in a very small amount of time, the force exerted on your body might result in fatal injuries. The speed you were doing in the first place is of little significance.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Micky
">A-level physics<" ?????

O-level for those of us who received a proper edgeukashun ;-0

">the force exerted on your body might result in fatal injuries<" So many variables; facing backwards is good, head restraint is essential.

Small headaches experiences by the older generation on roller coasters are the result of broken blood vessels in the brain ... eeeekkkkk!
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Micky
">2/ Everyone knows that travelling at 300 mph is dangerous<" No it isn't. Ask a 747 passenger.

">3/ No-one here is really that interested in the why<" I am.

">4/ No -one else is involved<" Anyone with an interest in speed is involved. If Nanny decides that Hammond's injuries could have been avoided then it's another blow to those who enjoy speed. OK, so I'll never a drive a rocket car, but I've sampled the delights of various offroad venues (including a couple of runways) in/on various vehicles. I don't want Nanny watching me.

And what has the unspecified deity of your choice got to do with it? ....... ;-)

Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Altea Ego
Of course speed is dangerous. The risk of accident increases with speed. Cheddar you are incapable of controling a land based vehicle at 300 mph and it hence becomes dangerous.

This is an undeniable fact.


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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - GregSwain
As I've already said, travelling at 70mph on the M1 is dangerous if an unforeseeable event causes you to lose control. Bearing in mind RH's jet-car was designed to go a lot faster than 70mph, the outcome was similar to a normal motorway accident. If you were to plonk a jet on the back of a Ford Focus and lose control at 300mph, the outcome might be a bit worse.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Jonathan {p}
He's walking!

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5372890.stm

Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Dynamic Dave
He's walking!


As per my report approx 16 hrs ago.

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=45208&...e
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Jonathan {p}
Sorry DD I was sleeping at 5am
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - henry k
>> He's walking!

Wed 27 Sep update on progress.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5384400.stm
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Dynamic Dave
Wed 27 Sep update on progress.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5384400.stm


"Donations to the air ambulance which flew him to hospital stand at £188,000."

Wrong.

www.justgiving.com/PHRichardHammond?page=1

"You may wonder why our total has suddenly dropped. Unfortunately, last weekend's £50,000 donation was declined. "
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Altea Ego
none of us have any idea about travelig at 300 mph on a lnad based vehicle becuase none of us have come anywhere close. The ratio of accident of land based machines traveling at very high speeds even by proffesional drivers suggests its damn risky

Dont get mixed up with this speed is not dangerous, Speed is dangerous., Speed does not kill true, its the accident that does.,

We are talking very high speed here, you cant try and compare this with normal car speeds,


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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Dynamic Dave
Dont get mixed up with this speed is not dangerous, Speed is dangerous., Speed does not kill true, its the accident that does.,


If you want to continue with this arguement, take it to the relevant speeding thread. DD. (put in bold this time as it was obviously not seen when I previously mentioned it!)
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Micky
">If you were to plonk a jet on the back of a Ford Focus <"

The image of an Airbus 380 perched on a 1.4LX is rather alarming ....

I thought hamster's vehicle was rocket powered?
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Micky
No it's not Micky, it's jet powered. Idiot.

So it's not really that fast after all ;-)
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Micky
">Cheddar you are incapable of controling a land based vehicle at 300 mph and it hence becomes dangerous.<"

That's an outrageous and actionable slur on Cheddar's driving ability ....... has he really been driving at 300 mph? ...... wow!
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Dalglish
... would you not still require the same level of investigation??

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no, no, no. fullchat:
if you read the thread (now locked),

Top Gear Crash Health and Safety Debate - Honestjohn Fri 22 Sep 06 10:35
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?f=2&t=45...7

you will see that people here are generally against the hse and the police getting involved in this matter.

also, if dynamic manages to restore the "save top-gear" thread, you will see that the same general views are expressed there. also, read jeremy clarkson's article - which is linked there (but here it is again) -

www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006440317,00.html

Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Micky
If it's a place of work then the HSE will be involved. I understand that the HSE have targetted the BBC for years, but surely the risk should be Klaxon's?

Assuming hamster survives and the runway was closed to the general public, what charges could be brought? RTA doesn't apply, no fatality, is there something involving endangerment? Or have I been watching too much US carp TV?

Perhaps Rebus could investigate?
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Dalglish
If it's a place of work then then ......

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micky, imo, if you continue that line, this thread is in danger of getting locked too. as hj has said, no discussion of possible breaches of rules, possible charges etc.

Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - cheddar
">Cheddar you are incapable of controling a land based vehicle at
300 mph and it hence becomes dangerous.<"
That's an outrageous and actionable slur on Cheddar's driving ability .......
has he really been driving at 300 mph? ...... wow!


No, no he is quite right, he has however missed the point, the clear distinction between impact and speed.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - cheddar
The risk of accident increases with
speed. >>


That is a different point. risk management.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Honestjohn
(Some posts shifted to Support for Top Gear thread as they seemed more relevant to that.)

HJ
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - smilingvulture
arton senna---comes to mind
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Leif
"Clarkson, who told him he had been in a car accident, said that Hammond then got out of bed and walked shakily to the lavatory."

Clarkson has that effect on people.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Bromptonaut
SWBO, knowing nothing of Top Gear, has just downloaded part of a Brainiac programme where Richard and assistant demonstrate the reactivity of alkaline metals.

Should hold 9B's attention tomorrow.

Irrespective of the guy's skills in motoring journalism he's pretty smart at bringing science to life.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - George Porge
He's been allowed home. :-)
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - George Porge
He's been allowed home. :-)


Err no he has'nt, he's been transfered to another hospital.

This Morning reported this and then changed it :-(
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - bell boy
yes nice to see isnt it,good job we didnt listen to certain members on here giving up on him....
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - henry k
..... he's been transfered to another hospital.

Further update
BBC lunch time news showed him being transferred.
At one part of the transfer he walked a few steps to an ambulance.

A consultant said he will need about 6 months to allow his recovery.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - Round The Bend
Oldman - bit harsh! The correspondent you refer to was only writing what many of us were fearing, given the news coverage at the time.
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Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - George Porge
Oldman - bit harsh! The correspondent you refer to was
only writing what many of us were fearing, given the news
coverage at the time.
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Its one thing to say it in your home and work place to family, friends, work colleagues, its in very poor taste to post it on a national forum of some repute where his family members and maybe himself whilst he's recouperating can read your pessimistic comments for months to come.
Richard Hammond Thread - Volume 2 - PoloGirl
If it's me you're talking about, and I think it is, then I think you're blowing my comment out of proportion. Sorry but if I was a member of his family, I would be upset at what had happened to him, not about what some faceless people were writing on an internet forum. Some perspective here if you please.

I stand by what I said at the time even though it was deleted - the media were reporting the story like he was not going to make it. They even had films of his achievements in life all packaged and ready to go. If you misread my post as me saying that I personally didn't think he was going to make it, then I'm sorry that you were offended, but I was only commenting on the way it was being covered.

yorkshire air ambulance - the original horse
just seen this
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/539137...m
lets just hope that one day, he doesnt need the services of a 2nd helicopter.

{Moved to the RH thread, as related to the subject - DD}
yorkshire air ambulance - rtj70
I was hoping someone rich like JC gave the £50k.... but no some sad hoax it seems.

One might even change your words slightly and say "lets just hope that one day, he DOES need the services of a 2nd helicopter" which might now take longer and not be there when (s)he needed it. But none of us would wish that on anyone. The person pretending to donate £50k is just sad.
yorkshire air ambulance - bell boy
my words for the person that pledged this amount and who turned out to be a man of straw are unprintable
yorkshire air ambulance - Dynamic Dave
just seen this


Ahem:-

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=45208&...e
yorkshire air ambulance - Dynamic Dave
Funnyman Freddie Starr last night pledged a huge donation to aid the helicopter service which saved Richard ?Hamster? Hammond.

www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006440750,00.html (among other news reports)
yorkshire air ambulance - Stuartli
>>pledged a huge donation>>

In actual fact I read that Freddie Starr intended to make such a donation several days ago. Good for him.

In my area we are served by the North West Air Ambulance Service. It has proved a superb asset on many occasions, especially after road accidents.
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yorkshire air ambulance - the original horse
undisclosed "huge" donation ? mmmm not impressed , seems like a free ad to me based on the old "ate my hamster" routine , you dont need publicity if you really care ,surprised its even fetched up ! and in the sun !
yorkshire air ambulance - barchettaman
Apparently Hammond was trepanned to reduce the swelling in his brain.
yorkshire air ambulance - cheddar
Apparently Hammond was trepanned to reduce the swelling in his brain.


Cristaino DeMatta crashed his Champ Car in to a dear while testing seven weeks ago, he had 40% of his skull removed to allow thew brain to swell and is up and about walking now, a miracle by all accounts.
yorkshire air ambulance - martint123
mmmm not impressed ,

I am - there are a huge number of similarly rich people needing publicity who didn't give any money. Good on him. How much did you give?
yorkshire air ambulance - cheddar
Good on Freddy Star, he has probaly given many times more than average, the "Hamster" connection is clear however he is also a helicopter pilot so has empathy with the job done by the Air Ambulance people.

Likewise I wonder if the withdrawn £50,000 donation was a misunderstanding, perhaps someone meant to give £50 and this was misunderstood.
yorkshire air ambulance - Pugugly {P}
There are some suitably dark cartoons and comments in this week's Private Eye who as usual have a brilliant take on the whole episode.
yorkshire air ambulance - Micky
I've not bought Private Eye for years, Hislop took it into his own little world. I might have to reach into the dark recesses of my wallet to fund a copy of the Hamster Special Edition though.
yorkshire air ambulance - the original horse
mmmm not impressed ,
I am - there are a huge number of similarly rich
people needing publicity who didn't give any money. Good on him.
How much did you give?

i dont think you understand my point ,
its handy when your just starting a uk tour and your known to have a connection with the word "hamster"=. publicity straight away.
i gave to this excellent cause at lotherton hall , which was holding a vintage japanese classic motorbikes show , the helicopter was there with its freindly collecting people , this was before all the publicity of the terrible hammond incident .
i will keep the figure i gave as " undisclosed "
dont want the publicity .
yorkshire air ambulance - smokie
Well im45now I understood your point both times and in my opinion whatever the reason for his donation, he deserves praise not cynicism.

Well Done Freddie.
yorkshire air ambulance - Dynamic Dave
you dont need publicity if you really care ,surprised its even fetched up ! and in the sun !


If you look at my post, I said among other news reports, meaning that it wasn't only The Sun that mentioned it.
yorkshire air ambulance - Dynamic Dave
"YORKSHIRE Air ambulance has been inundated with support after the Yorkshire Post reported that a £50,000 donat-ion to the Richard Hammond Appeal turned out to be a hoax."

www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?Section...3

Also
"An investigation is under way into four donations which turned out to be hoaxes"
"People are logging on to the website and leaving messages like: 'I can't believe anybody would be so cruel. Here is a little money towards the hoax cash.' "
Video of Hamster's dragster crash - Micky
//www.dragstercrash.com/index.htm

add http: at the front
Video of Hamster's dragster crash - Dynamic Dave
I've just removed a few postings that were discussing where Micky's post had gone.

There was a server crash, and a few posts got temp deleted. Should be all back to normal now though.

Oh, btw, as mentioned in one of the posts, the above link isn't actually of RH's crash.

DD.
Video of Hamster's dragster crash - Pugugly {P}
I was referring to to the harmless version by the way.
Video of Hamster's dragster crash - Micky
I don't understand it. A link to a perfectly harmless video featuring a small, semi-domesticated rodent in a dragster ends up here. How strange .... {wanders off to search for videos of motorcycle-riding gerbils}
Video of Hamster's dragster crash - Pugugly {P}
According to Yahoo's news pages the BBC are going to run the genuine article in a special documentary called "The Hamster", usually reliable source of information.
Video of Hamster's dragster crash - bell boy
just been reading sniff petrol and the piece about richard hammond sums up everything i wanted to write but was afraid to ask,or some similar title
Video of Hamster's dragster crash - Pugugly {P}
"The high-speed crash that nearly killed Top Gear presenter Richard Hammond is to be shown on television, it has been reported. BBC bosses are said to be planning a special programme about the smash. Hammond - nicknamed Hamster - is set to fully recover from "significant" brain injuries sustained when the jet-powered car flipped and crashed during a stunt for Top Gear.

The Beeb will now wait until the 36-year-old is fully recovered - set to be within six months - before confirming the project.

Friends of Hamster believe he will agree to the show.

A source told The Daily Mirror: "The aim is not to be gruesome but to show all the preparations.

"Then we'll look at what went wrong and perhaps learn lessons."

Hammond's Vampire dragster overturned at nearly 300mph at Elvington airfield, near York, on September 20 and he was airlifted to hospital."


That's the quote in full/
Video of Hamster's dragster crash - Dynamic Dave
I don't understand it. A link to a perfectly harmless video....


Micky, I was in the unfortunate sutuation of not being able to view your video earlier and I took it at face value that you were in fact referring to Hampster Hammond, and not a genuine hampster - hence why I moved it into this thread. DD.
Video of Hamster's dragster crash - Honestjohn
The producers seem to be treating this with a sense of humour. See the pix of the 7 ambulances lined up at Dunsfold on Thursday while JC tested a new Lotus. (Uncrewed 'out of serrvice' ambulances, I guess.)

HJ
Video of Hamster's dragster crash - AlastairW
The producers seem to be treating this with a sense of humour.

Not just them. The Telegraph now says TopGear will return 'when Richard Hammond gets out of bed' ;-)
Video of Hamster's dragster crash - Vin {P}
"See the pix of the 7 ambulances lined up at Dunsfold on Thursday "

There's a sort of ambulance dump on the far side of Dunsfold - away from where they normally film.

V
Exchange of words - mare
Sorry if this has been covered before, but there's an interesting exchange between one of the TG back room boys and the Daily Mail columnist.

www.sniffpetrol.com/neillyndoniscross.html

and scroll halfway down. Rude words lurk there, you have been warned. Content more than makes up for it though.

One of the bits added included the name of the car - which they thought was Viper....

(Thanks mare. I've substituted the better link you gave next post and deleted your now unnecessary next post. Good stuff. JC was very annoyed about the public stoning bit and thought, as anyone reading it would have, that Neil Lyndon actially wrote it. JC probably isn't used to being edited like that. Many of the rest of us are. Happens to me every week.HJ)
 

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