^^ Dagnabbit Dalglish, posting the same thing as me at the same time.... :-)
-- You know, it\'s not like changing toothpaste
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citroenian: so i might as well add:
There is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the n***s has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress. This principle is itself frequently (though perhaps incorrectly) referred to as Godwin's Law.
It is considered poor form to arbitrarily raise such a comparison with the motive of ending the thread. There is a widely recognized codicil that any such ulterior-motive invocation of Godwin's Law (in the above sense) will be unsuccessful. This is sometimes referred to as "Quirks's Exception". It should be noted however, that continued expansion of the Internet has recently given rise to "RGB's Restriction of Quirk's Exception", to wit, "In cases where the subject of the comparison to Hitler fails to recognize the applicability of Quirk's Exception, Quirk's Exception shall not apply and Godwin's Law shall take effect in its normal manner."
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Mornington Crescent?
My coffee addled brain is struggling with Quirk's exception....
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There is absolutely no need for anyone to respond to posts in a aggressive or belligerent manner because they disagree.
Politeness maketh the man and if anyone feels that a post is wrong or the question is obvious they should simply not respond if he feels that way.
One can disagree in a pleasant manner without childish insults.
I note that our most respected experts such as Aprilia and Number Cruncher never resort to showing off by having a ?I know it all so I must be right? attitude or attempting to belittle others.
Standards on this forum should be kept as high as possible to retain its good quality members or otherwise it would degenerate to just being one of thousands of forums instead of being probably the best.
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Would anyone else like a nice cup of tea ? The kettles on and I'm sure that i could squeeze another cup out of the pot.
ooohh and theres some home made tiffin as well for anyone who's peckish.
MTC
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Who are you looking at Murphy? Eh? Eh?
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I'm a moderator on another site, and the spats on here are nothing compared to all out war you sometimes get on there! That forum has the option for people to be able to edit their post for up to an hour (can be more/less depending on settings), which would be useful here. That said, it's a Vbulletin forum, which would probably cost more than this one to run.
I kind of like the simplicity of this place, and that fact that, generally, it doesn't degenerate into "well you can't spell so you can't possibly have a valid point" type arguments. If I threw my toys out and flounced every time someone ignored me or spoke down to me simply because I'm young and/or female, I wouldn't have lasted three days, let alone three years. The beauty of this place (although I haven't yet looked at the thread in question) is that even when there's an argument, it's usually beautifully crafted and a joy to read. ;)
Have to say though, posting another thread about a thread which has already been locked seems to have no purpose other than to fan the flames.
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The fact that the discussions on this site don't degerate more often is, for me, quite surprising.
I think that for some, questioning their automotive knowledge is akin to questioning their orientation, because for some odd reason, everyone expects that all blokes know about cars - as if a deep knowledge of the engineering principles is somehow carried along the umbelical cord!!
Even worse, however, is that so many are informed about automotive matters either by entertainment TV programs or by glossy magazines written by people who know about creating good copy rather than the technicalities of which they write or speak. Most magazines, when the going gets technical, are simply wrong!
I think the glue that holds the site together is that there a **few** people on here who really know what they are talking about - particularly No_fm2r's knowledge of matters to do with contractual matters and insurance - as such, I have learnt lots from them.
I do think that when a correspondant is being spectacularly dim, it is difficult to resist a degree of sarcasm and antagonism - to an extent, they desrve it IMO.
Number_Cruncher
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Firstly, I apologise for calling you a Hitler. Hardly offensive to Jews in my opinion but an uncalled for personal insult, I am sorry for that.
But my original point stands-that thread was hardly a flame war-if you don't like a thread, you know how to use the back button, don't read it. If a post is illegal, grossly offensive, racist, 'against the rules (if you're really that much of a pedant, which you probably are), then click the button that's marked 'report this post'. But to call publicly for thread to be shut down, because in your own over blown opinion it is no longer a worthy discussion is poor behaviour also. It reminds me of a snivelling, hand wringing traffic warden or the little snitch at school. You don't have to read a thread if you don't like it.
Once again, apologies for the personal insult. Hardly the end of the world though, IMO.
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I'm not going to come down to your level, component part.
I'm not sure what you get out of doing this, but I hope you get something!
I am fully conversant on the use of the back button, but the whole point is that this is a pleasant forum to be a part of, largely because people don't get offensively personal about one another. The point of my original post and this thread was as a small reminder of that.
In my opinion, your comments are rude and unjustified. THAT is what is not acceptable. No FM2R has lobbed a couple of comments my way, and while they were arguably argumentative, I didn't find them personally offensive, and I'm certain that he did not mean to deliberately offend me. You, on other hand, seem to be going out of your way to cause offence.
I'm going to annoy BazzaBear & pologirl (apologies) and ask the mods to close this too- my original intention to begin a discussion has been personalised- exactly what I was hoping to avoid.
A.
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Dr Alex Mears
MG BGT 1971
If you are in a hole stop digging...unless
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no takers for a brew then ------ shame.
The world always looks a better place after a brew.
MTC
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Like I say, I am sorry for the personal insult.
You don't like people getting offensive, even slightly, I don't like people calling for threads to be closed because in their opinion it is no longer a worthy debate. That's what annoyed me, found it quite offensive in fact, although I'm sure that wasn't your intention.
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Ok- apology accepted, and I apologise for asking for the thread to be closed- as you say, I hadn't realised it would offend anyone.
Forget the tea- Murphy, you got any beers in? I'll have a Deuchars IPA. And how about some nuts?
A.
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Dr Alex Mears
MG BGT 1971
If you are in a hole stop digging...unless
you are a miner.
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Murphy, make us a brew will you?
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You'll like this one
It's Farrers Lakeland Special, lovely cup it is too.
Biscuit, or a piece of Tiffin ?
MTC
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No mint cake?
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I>> No mint cake?
I'm sorry Adam, please excuse me.
I can offer you, white, brown or if you've been a good chap, some chocolate covered.
The choice is yours.
MTC
p.s anyone for a top up ?
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Ahh..I love this fluffy place! :)
I've got a bag of mint poppets here if anyone wants one.
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No toffee ones?
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I'm always happiest when drunk (not at the moment, I'm at work, I swear)!
Tea's good tho
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I'm always happiest when drunk (not at the moment, I'm at work, I swear)! Tea's good tho
I could organise some Cumbrian Rum Butter to go on a toasted teacake if you like ?
MTC
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What strange things. Rum butter? Yuk.
Camp coffee would be nice tho.
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Camp coffee.Thats a name i havn't heard in a long time!.Showing my age.
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I've got some Badger First Gold....birthday present from my mates at work!
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I haven't got any Camp coffeee, but I have some vaguely effeminate orange juice.
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Hello at the back ------- is that you apm ??
Oh good, i though that I heard your MG turning up.
Chaps, hang on a second, could some =one pass this bottle of Theakstons Old Peculier back to apm, and this packet of ready salted peanuts as well ?
Cheers, thanks a lot.
Xileno, I have iton good authority that you don't like Cumbrias finest Rum Butter !!!!!! Would you care for some Grasmere Gingerbread instead ?
MTC
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Surely no one actually likes Camp coffee?
Last time I tasted it was at the Mainland Hotel in Lagos. Served with hot milk in a sort of regimental silverplate coffee service. The actual stuff was an incredible letdown, very annoyingly because I'd been looking forward to it for days. Oddly, since it grows there, coffee can be hard to come by in Africa.
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See-only in the Backroom could a thread born from negative reasons become a positive, happy affair-this place really is unique:-)
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Dave may have something more to say about this one when he sees it but seeing as people seem happy now (for a few minutes at least) I shall lock this one too.
There have been a few words and insults during these two threads which would have been best left unsaid, please think twice before pressing the Post This Message button.
Also, please use the Report to Moderator button to draw a moderator's attention to something which is grieving you. We can't be here all the time, but that button prompts an email to us which is more likely to come to our attention if we are busy. You won't always get our agreement but you will get a fair hearing.
smokie, BR Moderator
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