Youth of today - Greg R
Hi all.

I do some voluntary youth work in London at the moment. Anyway, to cut a long story short I ride a CG125 motorcyle, and one of the little kids mentioned that he thought it was rubbish.

Anyway, I gave him a piece of my mind, just saying to him 'where is your motorbike then?' Obviously, he hasn't got one, so what is better, none or on like mine.

I didn't really take it seriously, but my question is if kids can be cheeky to someone they don't know, what are they like at school etc. I am assuming they get their cheek from parents, and upbringing, and I can't really judge as a youth worker.

Maybe I was brought up differently, but I thought it was amazing at about 13 years old some kids already have snobbery. When I was young, any bike was fine to me. I loved them all, as long as they go, and the older ones had what I called character.

Maybe I just too demanding? Lets hope this kid doesn't say this stuff to really serious people, otherwise he might just end up in the Thames??? Maybe I need to get a life? What do others think?

Just thought I might share this and hoped people might tell me what they think.

Thanks

Greg
Youth of today - Greg R
Oh, and just to say I am not generalising. There are loads of youths who are really smart and cool, and are great and well brought up. Many bring hope that society will continue to be great as it is!
Youth of today - Hamsafar
They got it off Children's TV, and TV in general.
Youth of today - L'escargot
I remember visiting a friend in my brand new car, which was promptly inspected by his 5-year old son. His only comment was that it didn't even have a towbar!
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Youth of today - George Porge
What little angels you were! I'm 39 and may have made a similar remark with a smile on my face, a bit of leg pulling thats all. If they just leave at a bit of cheek and go no further whats the harm? If you'd have offered him a ride on the back you'd have made his week (Ibet thats what he really wanted for you to prove to him how good the bike was). Chill out and be thankfull that kids find you approachable.
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Youth of today - Altea Ego
GregR

you are only upset cos you know he is right, It is rubbish.

Thats a legpull BTW, which is all your teen youth was doing probably - experimenting with the sarcastic and ironic aspects of humour .Its just at that age they are rubbish at it.

As suggested, had you thrown him on the back and scraped his knees round the bends, he would be telling his mates it was the dogs dangly bits for the next 6 months
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Youth of today - Greg R
Yeh, I see what you mean.

I think its great that I am seen as approachable.

I think my problem is after work, I don't really have a great sense of humour...I work in a serious place where conversation is a rarity...in fact it is extinct.

But anyway, I will take the happy pill and have a laugh!
Youth of today - Collos25
Bring back conscription thats what I say and at 3 years old for 20 years.
Youth of today - bell boy
what ever you do happy pills or anything do resist the urge when he says giss a go mister cos it will END in tears when he comes back round the corner with only the handlebars wrapped round his neck ;-)
Youth of today - Group B
Anyway, to cut a long story short I ride a CG125
motorcyle, and one of the little kids mentioned that he thought
it was rubbish.


Saying it was rubbish - I would have taken with a pinch of salt, I personally wouldn't have said that to someone when I was 13 though. I thought you were going to say one of the kids tried to nick your bike!

I despair at the attitude of some teenagers today. A few weeks ago I was driving into town on a Saturday afternoon on quiet roads, following another car at low speed due to speed bumps. The car in front then had to slow almost to a stop because 3 teenagers were sauntering across the road, deliberately holding us up. The driver in front must have given them a funny look or a shake of the head, because as he passed, one of the kids banged his fist hard on the rear quarter window. The driver sped up and I followed, but as I passed I gave the youth a long blast of horn but didnt stop. I looked in the mirror and he was walking down the middle of the road gesturing "come on then", and I could tell he was irate at not managing to 'get' my car; it was all a display of bravado to the two taller lads on the pavement.
My thoughts at the time were that I would have loved to have stopped, got out, and smacked him one in the face. But then I would be the wrongdoer, "assaulting" the poor little teenager. Or what if one of them had a knife? Could have been a different story.
I've had a couple of other situations myself and seen it happen to other drivers, where kids have wandered across the road on foot or on a bike; they dont try to get out of the way, just stare at you as if to say "what are you going to do about it?".

When I was a teenager in the '80's, you didn't dare give any cheek to older kids, you knew there was a chance you would get a beating. Most of the people I knew had respect for adults. Nowadays there are lots of kids about who may receive little discipline at home and definitely none at school and have no respect for anybody. Lord help us when they grow up and have families of their own. Its a downward spiral.
Youth of today - No FM2R
Whilst I agree with most, keeping one's mouth shut to avoid a beating is fear not respect.

>>Lord help us when they grow up and have families of their own.

I think the problem is that that has already happened, about 15 years ago.
Youth of today - David Horn
Shouldn't that be "yoof"?
Youth of today - Altea Ego
I blame the BBC. The world started going down hill when they stopped presenters wearing dinner jackets when on the radio.

Move on, grow up people. These youth will be paying your pensions in years to come, give em a modicum of respect and equality and they will repay you now and in the future.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Youth of today - Andrew-T
"give em a modicum of respect and equality "

As I'm sure you know, TVM, respect and equality have to be earned, not demanded. On those terms I am happy to oblige.
Youth of today - Altea Ego
"respect and equality have to be earned"

Rubbish

respect and equality are an assumed given until proven they are not worthy of it.




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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Youth of today - Andrew-T
"Rubbish - respect and equality are an assumed given until proven they are not worthy of it"

Disagree. I think what you are calling Respect I would call courtesy. I still say respect is earned.
Youth of today - Martin Devon
I blame the BBC. The world started going down hill when
they stopped presenters wearing dinner jackets when on the radio.
Move on, grow up people. These youth will be paying your
pensions in years to come, give em a modicum of respect
and equality and they will repay you now and in the
future.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >


Where do you live? When they show respect, we'll show respect. I live in rural Devon and there is some right dross here. God only knows what it is like in the city now!

best regards...............................MD.
Youth of today - Group B
Whilst I agree with most, keeping one's mouth shut to avoid
a beating is fear not respect.


Yes quite right it was respect for some but fear of other older youths. But respect for adults and for peoples property.
>>Lord help us when they grow up and have families of
their own.
I think the problem is that that has already happened, about
15 years ago.


Yeah I know there are rough areas where these problems have been going on for donkeys years. Just seems to me that it has got worse in the last 5 or so years. The police seem powerless to do anything. Some kids see an ASBO as a badge of honour not a punishment. May be my own perception because I moved from a relatively quiet town in N.E. Derbyshire, to Nottingham 3 years ago...

Andy Bairsto has the right idea - bring back conscription!
Youth of today - BB
....May be my own perception because I moved from a relatively quiet town in N.E. Derbyshire, to Nottingham 3 years ago...

Crikey, you didn't move to St Anns did you?
Youth of today - Group B
Crikey, you didn't move to St Anns did you?


No I've never even driven through St Anns, never mind moved there!!! ;o)
Youth of today - landmarked
Surely the best thing anyone can in a situation like the one Rich described is to deliberately not reinforce any behaviour they find socially unacceptable.

That means not reacting to provocation, not sinking down to 'their level' and not giving anyone the satisfaction of believing they have annoyed you. I think if more people did this the fun would soon go out of riling the general public!
Youth of today - bell boy
Rich 9-3 fit some air horns to your vehicle,wait till lacky youf has done his clever strutting in the jay walk fashion in front of you and then as he clears your front bumper with his back to you give him a shrill full trumpet full and watch him jump in the air as you drive off into the sunset laughing as he looks a complete moron in front of his hard mates.......
Youth of today - lordy
I remember when I was at school (in Nottingham BTW, but not St Ann's), I think this was 1988, and one of my teachers turned up in a new Golf GTi. I happened to be walking past as he had pulled into the car park. My reaction - "Nice car sir, but why didn't get you spec the alloys? Oh, and it's the 8v not the 16v then?"



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Youth of today - Martin Devon
I remember when I was at school (in Nottingham BTW, but
not St Ann's), I think this was 1988, and one of
my teachers turned up in a new Golf GTi.


My Headmaster bought a new Rover P6 V8 in 1970 'H' reg. Boy was that cool then. Keep Yer GTI's. It's only a misspelled GIT!

vbr..........md
Youth of today - DP
Rich 9-3 fit some air horns to your vehicle,wait till
lacky youf has done his clever strutting in the jay walk
fashion in front of you and then as he clears your
front bumper with his back to you give him a shrill
full trumpet full and watch him jump in the air
as you drive off into the sunset laughing as he looks
a complete moron in front of his hard mates.......


I did that once. A pair of A1 Motor Centre specials with a compressor the size of a large coffee mug. Both trumpets mounted on the front crossmember firing directly forwards.

I actually saw daylight between his shoes and the road surface for a good second, and just to cap it off, his mate who was stepping onto the kerb at the time tripped and fell flat on his face!

There aren't many events that nearly a decade on still make me smile, but this is one of them.

Cheers
DP
Youth of today - BB
Only kidding! Nice to see another BR member from Notingham. Wollaton for us.
Youth of today - cub leader
Takes all sorts to make the world and that includes the youth, have had many comments from my cubs and the other sections i help with about my choice of cars. One lot of cubs told me my golf looked like it was powered by hamsters, my explorers regulalrly go on bout what they are gonna do when they get cars and how quick they will be etc, then they find out the cost! Kids are cheeky about cars but is all part of the fun of the job is that banter especially trying to do car maintenance and asking the cubs to point to the dipstick!!!!



yes they did point at me and yes it happens everytime!!!!
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Youth of today - Lud
'Your car's carp, mista.'

'Know something about cars then, do you?'

I actually had this conversation with one of a group of 12-year-olds in a forecourt (no longer with us) just off Harrow Road some ten years ago. At least this judgement of my then car, an excellent 28,000 mile swing-axle 1200cc Skoda Estelle bought for £425, came from a member of the right age group (one that is cheeky, ignorant and full of itself by definition).

By that time of course I was used to hearing the same kind of rubbish, but often more rudely expressed, from 'adults' who actually thought they did know something about cars. Very very few were ever persuaded that they might have got it wrong.

Of course enthusiasts, and people who knew a thing or two, never took that line except in jest.
Youth of today - Stuartli
When I was in my early teens (a long time ago now), we used to regularly have arguments about which was the best and most desirable set of wheels to own. We even used to sketch or doodle exactly what we believed would be a top car design.

Modern youngsters, of whom the vast majority are absolutely top notch, just more assertive than in my day and rightly so, are just as keen on material things.

Unfortunately you mostly only hear these days about the comparatively small number who get into trouble.. Certainly we got into occasional trouble in our time, but more through mischief than malevolence.
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Youth of today - lordy
>>Nice to see another BR member from Notingham. Wollaton for us.

Bramcote Hills was my old stomping ground BB. Still have family down there in Chilwell village. Oohh! Hasn't it changed?



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Youth of today - Greg R
I suppose there is some exaggeration here about how bad youth can be. In general, I think they are fine and its the odd ones that need a little discipline. In my school, there was this and always will be.

I think I need to lighten up and just joke at them...at the end of the day, who cares what people think...I am the one who worked for it and own it, and each to their own as mentioned before.

Youth of today - Vin {P}
"In case you're worried about what's going to become of the younger generation, it's going to grow up and start worrying about the younger generation."

Can't remember who wrote it, but I like it.

V
Youth of today - bell boy
glasshopper?
Youth of today - mike hannon
It IS possible to step back in time about 30 years to when kids were polite, friendly and even respectful to each other and the rest of the human race and you could leave your car parked by the roadside, even outside a nightclub, without worrying that it would be vandalised or nicked.
The way to do it is to live in France, anywhere outside the suburbs of Paris or just a few other really big cities.
Problem is, French kids think anything American or British they see on TV is really cool, so they will change.
Hopefully, I won't live that long...
Youth of today - s61sw
Ref the post regarding teenagers 'sauntering' across the road. Doesn't the Highway Code say motorists should give way to pedestrians? Replace the teenagers with an old dodderer or blind person, and you have a different scenario. Having said that, some youngsters do sometimes have an attitutude problem when crossing the road. Best thing to do is nothing - no provocation=no reaction.
S6 1SW
Youth of today - Greg R
In my normal mood I would say most youth are absolutely fine...they live great lives, want to do loads and are generally really positive.

Must be my mood swing that made me think negative...need to lighten up. Maybe a holiday!
Youth of today - Group B
I had a whinge about them too. But I'm sure 98% of youths are okay, its only a small minority that are abusive, arrogant little swines.

Its been too hot in my office this week, thats what put me in a black mood, I need to go home and have a beer... again!..
Youth of today - Greg R
I think I will ask for leave on psychological grounds. I need to relax on a beach, not sit in an oven. But lets just count my blessings...I sit in a sauna, enjoy cold drinks all day and get paid for it...oh and I do some work (honest!)
Youth of today - Pugugly {P}
The way to do it is to live in France, anywhere outside the suburbs of Paris or just a few other really big cities

Is the the same France where Autovoiture Flambe was the dish of the month a couple of months ago ?
 

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