annoying design details. - barney100
Both my wife's and my car have the same annoying positioning of the instrument clusters. The top of the steering wheel obscures the tops of both the tachometer and the speedo. With all the speed cameras around it is nice to know how fast you are going. I have noticed the same thing on several hire cars too.What annoys other back roomers about design details?.
annoying design details. - Altea Ego
What annoys other back roomers about design details?.

Not being able to find the steering wheel height adjuster?
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
annoying design details. - JH
or the seat hight?
JH
annoying design details. - JH
or height as it's known in English. :-(
annoying design details. - barney100
If I adjust the seat hieght so I can see all the dials properly I cannot reach the pedals.....I am obviously of peculiar proportions as my old Sgt Major would verify...............
annoying design details. - barney100
Steering wheel does not have hieght adjuster, only reach adjuster.
annoying design details. - Statistical outlier
Electric seats but no memory function - why?
annoying design details. - bikemade3
Or why on a Zafira when you open the bonnet any rain, water cascades down into the engine bay?
annoying design details. - tack
Subaru Forester. Headlamp wash button at knee height in facia to r/h of sterring column. If you have long legs, right knee catches button as you get in. Face full of fluid!
annoying design details. - Zippy123
Vectra C fog light buttons that have to be found by feel only as the steering wheel obscures them.
annoying design details. - Altea Ego
count your lucky stars. The touran hurls water down your neck from the roof. Its so bad I have learned to park on slope to the passenger side where it goes down the wifes neck. She hasnt found out why its always her yet...
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
annoying design details. - Pugugly {P}
Where do you start with a post modern BMW ?
annoying design details. - Bill Payer
Electric seats but no memory function - why?

..especially when they're about 12 way adjustable and your other half changes *every* setting, even when she's just backing the car out of the drive!!
annoying design details. - daveyjp
Main light and foglight on indicator lights you can't see. A3 has these lights on the switch which is down by your right knee and can't be seen when driving. Other Audis I've driven at least have the lights on indicator on the dash, with auto lights it's good to know when they have activated.
annoying design details. - L'escargot
The head restraint on my MK I Focus just touches the hair on the back of my head (which I find annoying) unless I tilt the backrest back further than I would like it to be. Don't some cars have head restraints that keep well out of the way until you collide with something?
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annoying design details. - Statistical outlier
Saab are even worse, ruled the 9-3 out for me when was looking as my gf had to stare at her lap it was so far forward.
annoying design details. - Group B
Saab are even worse, ruled the 9-3 out for me when
was looking as my gf had to stare at her lap
it was so far forward.


My girlfriends MX-5 seats are the opposite. The headrests (or rather the upper part of the one-piece seat back) are so far back I'm sure in a rear shunt your neck would snap before your head got anywhere near the seat!
annoying design details. - MW
Any Mercedes foot operated hand brake. Total madness.
annoying design details. - Edward
I'll second that. My boss always insists on getting manual Mercs. 4 pedals to share amongst 2 legs. Hill starts are fun.
annoying design details. - rjr
As the foot brake is released with a hand pulled handle I fail to see how it is any different to releasing a normal handbrake.
annoying design details. - Edward
The handle is a release switch. It does not allow a graduated release (or reapplication) of the parking brake as you would with a conventional handbrake. So, you arrive at a set of red traffic lights on a hill. Sequence is as follows:
Brake with right foot, clutch with left. Put gearbox into neutral.
Put parking brake on with left foot. Take right foot off driving brake.

Now to pull away.

Easy - left foot on clutch, gearbox into first, right foot on accelerator pull the release handle. Suddenly the bloke in front stalls. Then you have to decide whether to go through the whole sequence again or to hold the car on the clutch because you can not put the parking brake on without putting the gearbox in neutral (only one left leg).
annoying design details. - Altea Ego
No its not

Its approach traffic lights on a hill, jump on foot operated handbrake, car slows to a halt with rear wheels locked and smoking, fine tune place of stopping with regular footbrake application

easy peasy.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
annoying design details. - mss1tw
"TVM's school of hootbrake driving lesson"


I'd pay to see that!
annoying design details. - Union Jack
"Any Mercedes foot operated hand brake. Total madness."

MW - Are you a contortionist!?

Jack

PS Fully agree what I know you really meant.
annoying design details. - s61sw
Any Mercedes foot operated hand brake. Total madness.
I've been reading for years that these are a nightmare to use. Does anyone like using this system, and why do M-B (or D-B!)still use it?

S6 1SW
annoying design details. - rjr
I've been reading for years that these are a
nightmare to use. Does anyone like using this system, and why
do M-B (or D-B!)still use it?
S6 1SW


I got my first MB last year after 14 years of driving cars with handbrakes and found it very straightforward to use.
annoying design details. - barney100
I have no problems with MB foot/hand brake but mine is auto to be fair, not tried a manual.
annoying design details. - Vin {P}
It works OK with an automatic gearbox, as you then have the required number of feet. I used to have a manual.

Some friends lived in a house with a short uphill drive. My wife and I would swap, as despite the overall excellence of her driving, she couldn't get the Merc onto it. I could do it, but always expected to bump the car. It was one of the reasons we gave the car back to my company.

I would reverse into the drive and hit the footbrake. If I stopped too early (easy to do with a brick wall behind), it'd be a case of dropping out of gear to release my foot for popping on the "hand"brake. Then back into gear and get the car to the clutch bite point and release the "hand"brake with a clang (it's instant release). If I was on too much or too little gas, I'd either roll towards the road or bounce towards the wall. Repeat ad nauseam. If there's a SAFE way of doing it without this palaver, I don't know what it is.

I would NEVER buy a manual Merc with a foot operated handbrake.

V
annoying design details. - Christopher
Renault Clio 2001 - 2006
Wen you open the driver window and no matter how light or heavy the rain, water drips in right onto the electric window controls. Damn annoying!
annoying design details. - David Horn
Citroen Xsara with electric window switches on the dash. PITA when you're trying to change gear, steer, and get the window open for a ticket booth.
annoying design details. - Bromptonaut
Painted bumpers on any car. Bumpers are there to be bumped or scraped.
annoying design details. - Lud
Not just painted Bromptonaut, but ridiculously flimsy and expensive too.

Hear hear.
annoying design details. - artful dodger {P}
A remote key that is easily triggered either in your pocket or with a bunch of other keys. You only found your car was left unlocked when you returned to it. Simple answer was to remove the battery from the key.

Volumetric alarm sensors that are set off if a window or sunroof is left ajar on a hot day, or on a windy day. So I have dissabled the alarm for peace and quiet.


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annoying design details. - David Horn
I just park three streets away.
annoying design details. - Welliesorter
... You only found
your car was left unlocked when you returned to it.


Mine re-locks itself if a door isn't opened within a certain number of seconds. This can also be annoying but it's a safer option!
annoying design details. - dodo
Might seem a bit out of date but I once had a Triumph TR7. The door frames were steeply angled back and I was dating a particularly well endowed young lady at the time. we didn't last long as an item - but then neither did the car!
annoying design details. - type's'
Honda Accord outside temperature display is hidden behind the total mileage display so you have one or the other.
Why didn't they put it on the central radio and climate display adjacent to the internal temp setting.
annoying design details. - Vin {P}
"Mine re-locks itself if a door isn't opened within a certain number of seconds. This can also be annoying but it's a safer option!"

That's OK until you hear the story from my local garage - they had a car in like that (but didn't know). The mechanic threw the keys onto the passenger seat and left the car. Came back to a locked car in the entrance to the workshop.

V
annoying design details. - Dynamic Dave
But as the door should only relock if a door isn't opened, how come the car locked itself when the mechanic threw the keys onto the passenger seat? To do this, he must have opened the door, and therefore the car shouldn't have relocked.
annoying design details. - Welliesorter
The mechanic threw the keys onto the passenger seat and
left the car. Came back to a locked car in
the entrance to the workshop.


But how could the keys have been thrown in if the door hadn't been opened? Once a door has been opened, the countdown to re-locking stops.
annoying design details. - Vin {P}
Dunno, guv - just reporting it as I heard it.

V
annoying design details. - Bromptonaut
Suspect some cars need an engine start, or at least key in ignition to stop countdown.

Well dressed lady spotted on station car park last November trying to break rear window on a LR Disco. Apparently she'd opened it and chucked keys and bag inside while scraping off frost; halfway through process car re-locked.

Car and house keys locked in - fortunately her husband was at home!!
annoying design details. - tyro
I know I've posted this before - probably more than once :-)- but I'll tell you all again . . .

On my Citroen Berlingo, when I press the button to squirt water on the windscreen, the wipers go over the windscreen first, resulting in a worse mess than before you started.
annoying design details. - Dynamic Dave
Suspect some cars need an engine start, or at least key in ignition to stop countdown.


Luckily mine detects the signal via the interior light.
annoying design details. - L'escargot
On my 03/03 Focus you can have the front foglights on without the rear foglights ~ which I would never do ~ but you can't have the rear fog lights on without the front fog lights ~ which I would sometimes like to do. Why on earth didn't they make the switching sequence the other way round?
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L\'escargot.
annoying design details. - L'escargot
On my 03/03 Focus .......


.........when you switch off the heater fan the heater defaults to recirculated air ~ and what's the point of that if the fan won't recirculate the air anyway because it's been switched off?
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L\'escargot.
annoying design details. - Statistical outlier
I think it's based on an assumption that you must want no airflow. Without going to recirc, you still get airflow from the car's movement - if you want to stop it you need to close the vents. Sounds like Ford were trying to avoid this on yours.
annoying design details. - Round The Bend
My 02/52 Mondeo: Amazing lack of storage space in front centre of car. Nowhere for CDs etc. It has an arm rest which when lifted up gives a useless space the size of a large coke can.
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IanS
annoying design details. - PW
Picasso- buttons to reset trip meter on left hand side of central binnacle (cheap RHD conversion). Not a big thing but is blatant penny pinching.

Also on the Picasso- the indicator repeater sounds just like a child impersonating the noise of the indicator repeater (hope this makes sense).
annoying design details. - RichardW
It's possible if you only open the door a crack. My Dad has done it several times on Mum's Xsara - fortunately only in the drive at home!


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Is it illogical? It must be Citroen....
annoying design details. - Chris S
>>The top of the steering wheel obscures
the tops of both the tachometer and the speedo.

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I've noticed this in Japanese cars - they're all about 5' 6'' so the steering wheel is probably at about the right height for them.
 

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