Pyruse, why you on this website? : )
Which magazine have a cracking website, I believe there's a lively discussion going on about the merits of which washing machine is the quietest.....
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Yeah Pyruse, we don't need a voice of sanity thanks very much. There are quite enough bigots to ensure heated discussion at all times. Sanity is redundant here.
Don't think I've driven a Corolla SR but didn't much like the petrol Corolla I have driven, although it was obviously adequate to its task. Bit wallowy though even on motorway, which is a no-no for me.
C4 VTR+ 1.6, obviously a terrific car. And much better looking.
BTW, why to people give two hoots whether a car is 'European looking' or not? Seems utterly barmy to me.
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Sanity's for losers!
I was only joking BTW Pyruse.... no offence intended! I can talk, anyway, I get Holiday Which myself.... if anyone wants any tips on top travel insurance deals or how to get your money back from tour operators, I'm your (dull) man!
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Lud,
Unfortunately the habits of my 59 year old father cannot be changed - so if he doesn't like it he isn't gonna grow to like it. Whereas I am a lot younger (30) so I open to anything that is different. I'd rather we got a 3dr sports hatch - it carries 5 people however as my parents and their friends are in their 50's/60's+ they find it hard to get in and out of the rear.
I've contacted one of the brokers given by Blue Haddock and have now spoken to the dealer. They have advised that the price has gone up against the brokers price....I'm waiting for a p/x price from them to see what they offer.
Prices so far
Citroen C4 1.6 VTR - 10995
Toyota 1.6 SR - 12078
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306 2.0 SE Cabriolet
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SK,
I'm sure you're already aware, but there's a difference between the VTR and the VTR+ you mention in your first post
Lee -- There\'s no place like 127.0.0.1
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{re-reads message}
Sorry, scratch that last post of mine, you're on about the VTS which has many more toys and is a bit more £££
Lee -- There\'s no place like 127.0.0.1
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Toyota by head, Ciroen by Heart.
By the way that 306 of yours is a beautiful motor.
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Citroënian - sorry I meant VTR+
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306 2.0 SE Cabriolet
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Agree with Espada III entirely. If we weren't bothered about anything but the A-B then we'd all be driving Nissan Almeras and spend our time more usefully than posting on here :-)
It might amuse you to know that one of our cars is an Almera 1.8.
I have to say it's not in the least boring when you put your foot to the floor, though.
The original question was along the lines of which car to buy - we're trying to differentiate them as best we can.
Sure - but reliability, comfort, cost of ownership and depreciation seem to me a lot more important than whether your emotions are stirred by driving the thing.
It's the places I drive to and the people I share the journey with in my car that stir my emotions, not the metal box I'm sitting in.
And no offence taken to any of the comments - I was only stirring anyway.
I'm interested in the mechanical side of cars, but I've always been baffled by the emotional attachment some people develop to them (and I'm male and mechanically minded).
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Wd you describe yrself as an intelligent car user, pyruse, rather than an 'enthusiast'?
There are many such, people who are quite sensible in the way they drive and look after their cars but don't give much of a stuff for any of it.
There is an element of neurosis or skewed psychology in car enthusiasts.
And of course in the much larger numbers of car owners.
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Wd you describe yrself as an intelligent car user, pyruse, rather than an 'enthusiast'?
I'd describe myself as a mechanically aware car user.
There are many such, people who are quite sensible in the way they drive and look after their cars but don't give much of a stuff for any of it. There is an element of neurosis or skewed psychology in car enthusiasts.
I'm not going there. Who knows why people get emotional about cars? Not me.
And of course in the much larger numbers of car owners.
Wel, yes, otherwise how would Land Rover ever sell any Freelanders?
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>>It might amuse you to know that one of our cars is an Almera 1.8. I have to say it's not in the least boring when you put your foot to the floor, though.
{Laughing} - that's a bit of a coincidence! Still, I drive a Skoda Fabia that is perhaps even more style-suicide, but if you floor it, it'll disappear and will also do 65mpg with ease.
>>Sure - but reliability, comfort, cost of ownership and depreciation seem to me a lot more important than whether your emotions are stirred by driving the thing.
Citroens have always been about style, (the Saxo-Xsara period aside), and this is often over substance. One makes a conscious decision to compromise if you go for the Citroen - and it's not necessarily a rational choice give then jd power surveys etc. But style does matter to some, even if style to them is a pink smart fortwo or a streetKa.
Lee -- There\'s no place like 127.0.0.1
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Just wondering, ShereKhan, if the European look of the Corolla has prevailed despite the 2k price difference, or whether the superior dynamics and slick packaging of the C4 have had the right effect?
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I have had my C4 VTR+ 1.6 diesel (110) since December. Good price from internet dealer, not an import, not pre-reg!
One of the best cars I have had. Comfy, reliable, good kit for money (dual zone climate control, ABS, traction control, cruise control, radio controls on steering wheel, all round elec windows,and mirrors excellent sport seats) nice looking car. Don't see too many on the road.....even in France.
Just come back from France, cruised at 80mph for 5 hours both ways, did over 600 miles whilst there, never put a foot wrong. Only criticism? Douglas Bader would complain about leg room in rear. But hey, I am driving so why would I worry? Also, too harsh over potholes....and I mean harsh!. On motorway though, next to no wind noise or tyre rumble on 17" alloys, smooth as a baby's botty, no diesel clatter.
It will make Dad feel younger as it doesn't come with a Trilby hat or tartan blanket.
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Did it do 50 mpg?
Great car to drive I thought.
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Did it do 50 mpg?
On a run at 65mph, will do it easy, and better. Steady 80mph got me about 45mpg. Round town, can't get better than 36mpg.
Only done 4000 miles, so engine still tight maybe?
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