Moved out to the woods and need to change my car (an Insight btw).
Anyone owns or spent time with a 2.5 X-Trail? Auto or Manual, I dont mind. 2yr old ones are good value at the dealerships. I should look at the dCI but have heard of reliability issues.
Either that or a CR-V i-CTDI. Test drove one and it was excellent, although why 6 gears? 5 seems plenty with all that torque.
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A guy at work has a 2.2dCI as his company wheels, and has had nothing but problems with it. He has lost count of how many times it has been into the garage, and it sounds rougher than your average tractor. Time to get the bargepole out i think!
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> He has lost count of how many times it has been into the garage, and it sounds rougher than your average tractor.
Are you sure it wasn't 2.2 Di rather than dCi. Both Nissan dCi's I had were always rather quiet for a diesel with but a distant bass purr at idle. Old 2.2 Di however, completely different story...
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Have owned a 2.5 SVE auto for the last year. Had a "squeaky" tonneau cover replaced, apart from that no problems. I average 25mpg so don't consider it to be a gas guzzling antisocial SUV ! It handles well and is comfortable and quiet. Copes well with muddy tracks and farmers fields" I intend to be a bit more adventurous with it this year !
Mike.
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my friends had a 2.0litre petrol and were so pleased with it over the last 3 years that they have now purchased a new 2.5 petrol.They think that the fuel consumption is about the same as their previous one(around 31 mpg).Also my sister is about to order one as well.
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Steer clear of the dCi.... it's a Renault derived engine and (as backed up by the thread above) is prone to reliability issues.
The petrol unit is Nissan, and funnily enough seems to be very reliable!
CR-V will be more expensive, but is nicer car imho (though less capable off-road... )
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MoneyMart
On order : Audi RS4 4.2V8 Quattro Vrooooom!
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> Steer clear of the dCi.... it's a Renault derived engine and (as backed up by the thread above) is prone to reliability issues.
It's not, calling it dCi was Nissans biggest mistake - the 136bhp 2.2 dCi unit in X-trails, Primeras and Almeras is Nissan's own ultra reliable chain driven YD22 engine.
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No it's still Renault derived apparently, it's got the Renault diamond on the block. Rest looks very different though, as you say it has a chain driven cam.
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I know I will appear stubborn at this point, but it was also my impression after reading Autoexpress drivel for years that Nissan's new dCi range was Renault derived, however after through research I am sure it is not.
Currently Nissan use the following diesel engines across it's range:
From Renault:
65bhp and 82bhp 1.5 dCi K9K in Micras
120bhp 1.9 dCi F9Q in Primeras on continent
Own:
112 bhp 2.2 dCi YD22 in Almeras
136 2.2 dCi YD22 in Almeras and X-trails
138 2.2 dCi YD22 in Primeras
133bhp 2.5 TDi YD25 in Navaras and other pickups
125bhp 2.7 TDi YD27 in Terranos
154bhp 3.0 TDi ZD30 in Terranos
158 bhp 3.0 TDi ZD30 in Patrols
YD22 engines have no diamonds on the block, sound and look different to Renault units.
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I know I will appear stubborn at this point, but it was also my impression after reading Autoexpress drivel for years that Nissan's new dCi range was Renault derived, however after through research I am sure it is not. Currently Nissan use the following diesel engines across it's range: From Renault: 65bhp and 82bhp 1.5 dCi K9K in Micras 120bhp 1.9 dCi F9Q in Primeras on continent Own: 112 bhp 2.2 dCi YD22 in Almeras 136 2.2 dCi YD22 in Almeras and X-trails 138 2.2 dCi YD22 in Primeras 133bhp 2.5 TDi YD25 in Navaras and other pickups 125bhp 2.7 TDi YD27 in Terranos 154bhp 3.0 TDi ZD30 in Terranos 158 bhp 3.0 TDi ZD30 in Patrols YD22 engines have no diamonds on the block, sound and look different to Renault units.
Here we go again !
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On order : Audi RS4 4.2V8 Quattro Vrooooom!
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I run an X-Trail 2.5 SVE Auto and previously ran a Honda CR-V 2.0 petrol manual.As I have said previously on this forum my ideal would be an X-Trail built by Honda!
Re: fuel consumption - I average about 27 mpg. On 2 recent runs of about 500 miles I achieved 30.4 and 29.9 mpg which I consider pretty good for an auto.
Compared with the CR-V the X-Trail is more comfortable (great seats),more practical and the engine is much torquier than the revvy Vtec Honda (but at the expense of coarsness in the upper rev range).
Re: handling - the CR-V is better,with sharp steering and firm but controlled ride. The X-Trail is a bit ponderous with numb and over- heavy steering, but it partly makes up for this by being superb offroad. The suspension setup manages the seemingly impossible by providing an excellent ride on tarmac and coping admirably with large potholes and ruts.
Hope this is of use Sulphur Man
HectorG
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Hope this is of use Sulphur Man
Too late - he got a Beemer instead:-
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=39236
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I know DD, I've just seen the post. Can't believe you could be looking at an X-Trail one day,and later the same day buy a car with less room than a Golf!
I have 2 dogs and do a lot of camping, hence the X-Trail fits the bill. A BMW 1 series would be as much use as a chocolate fireguard.
HectorG
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HectorG, please see my Beemer thread. I have explained my reckless u-turn behaviour there. SM
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I have owned an 02 X-Trail SE+ a 2.0 litre petrol for 2 years, it covered 36,000 miles with no problems at all at an average 25mpg.
However it failed its first MOT. my dog had chewed part of a rear seat belt.I bought a dog guard from a company called BARJO
problem solved
A neighbour of mine who works at Nissan Sunderland got me a 20% discount off a new 2.2 dCI SVE X-Trail. I have followed HJ's advice on running in a diesel engine and use only BP Ultimate fuel resulting in a smooth, quiet and lively vehicle it has only covered 8,000 miles without a problem I would recommend an
X-Trail without hesitation
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