Forget all the opinions indeed - you should know your highway code -
www.highwaycode.gov.uk/05.htm#75
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
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OK then. This from RoSPA site, based on legislation:
Children under 3 years old
If carried in the front seat, an appropriate child restraint MUST be used (the adult seat belt is not sufficient). If carried in the rear seat, an appropriate child restraint MUST be used, if available.
If an appropriate restraint is fitted in the front of the car, but not the rear, children under 3 years old MUST sit in the front and use that restraint. Remember, many restraints can be fitted in the rear seats (check the manufacturer?s instructions). Rearward-facing seats should always be put in the rear if a front passenger airbag is fitted.
Children Aged 3 to 11 years and under 1.5 metres tall
If carried in the front seat, an appropriate child restraint MUST be worn if available. If not, an adult seat belt MUST be worn.
If carried in the rear seat, an appropriate child restraint MUST be worn if available. If not, an adult seat belt MUST be worn if available.
If an appropriate restraint or seat belt is fitted in the front of the car, but not in the rear, children between 3 to 11 years old and under 1.5 metres tall MUST use that restraint or seat belt. Remember, many restraints can be fitted in the rear seats (check the manufacturer?s instructions).
Children Aged 12 or 13 years or younger children 1.5 metres or more in height
If carried in the front or rear seat, an adult seat belt MUST be worn if available.
Passengers Over 14 years old
If travelling in the front or rear seat, an adult seat belt MUST be worn if available.
www.rospa.com/roadsafety/advice/motorvehicles/seat...s
So I suppose restraint methods depend on how tall your daughter is, but she is definitely allowed in the front seat.
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Does it mater if it's legal?
The question should be, is it safe?
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thx for that...so it is legal... i personally would prefer her to be in the front seat....i have a 2 door coupe..
i see your point about being in the front. thx all
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Do you seriously expect a straight answer here ?
Fact of life - it may be legal, it doesn't mean its safe ;-)
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We always put children under 12 in the back seat wearing adult seat belts. In the case of small children we allow them to use only the lapstrap part of the belt, as the diagonal strap in many cases seems likely to cause neck injury in the event of a crash.
Some children may undo their belts or wriggle out of them or pull a loop out of the inertia reel rendering the belt useless. It's a good idea to check them out every now and again. However if you allow them to distract you you are asking for an accident. Many mothers could tell you horror stories about this.
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Using a belt like this could cause serious internal injury in the event of rapid decelleration,better to use the appropriate kit.
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While aware of the slightly higher risk of injury with lap strap only, I seem to remember that such restraint is better than none at all. 'The appropriate kit' in my experience is never entirely satisfactory and is certainly expensive and cumbersome. As I said in my earlier post, small children in particular dislike being restrained and wriggle about, getting everything as tangled as possible. Leave it in the car and someone steals it. So schlep it back and forth? No thanks.
Perhaps one just shouldn't let children in cars. They get crisps down behind the seat squab and cover everything with sticky substances. Is it really worth it?
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Lud, for £9 or thereabouts you can buy a padded triangle that you slip the diagonal seatbelt into. It puts the shoulder strap in the right place for a child and spreads the pressure on the stomach/chest in case of accident. I use one for my son and carry a spare for extra passengers. A lap belt only can do horrendous damage to the stomach area which is why so many family cars now are doing away with lap straps.
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Lud, for £9 or thereabouts you can buy a padded triangle that you slip the diagonal seatbelt into. It puts the shoulder strap in the right place for a child and spreads the pressure on the stomach/chest in case of accident. I use one for my son and carry a spare for extra passengers. A lap belt only can do horrendous damage to the stomach area which is why so many family cars now are doing away with lap straps.
Does this device fasten the chest strap to itself in an adjustable, firm manner so that it fits the child in the way it is meant to fit an adult? If so I will get some, and thank you very much Deepwith. Halfords? Babycare?
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I got mine in a car parts shop a few years ago having seen someone else using them. You feed the buckle into the triangle and then fasten two very strong poppers to hold the straps in place, and yes, the shoulder strap fits onto the shoulder as per adult fitting. If I can find the manufacturers name on them tomorrow I will post it for you. Dee
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I am surprised that so many backroomers don't know the law on carrying children in a car. There must be a minimum of four, all in the back and standing on the seat while at least one hangs out of a window. The driver must be using a mobile at all times and never drop more than three feet from the bumper of the car in front.
Just watch and you will see how the more aware drivers stick rigidly to that rule.
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You forgot, no MoT and doing 94 in a 40 zone.
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I am surprised that so many backroomers don't know the law on carrying children in a car. There must be a minimum of four, all in the back and standing on the seat while at least one hangs out of a window. The driver must be using a mobile at all times and never drop more than three feet from the bumper of the car in front.
Tom, I'm sorry to hear that you are taking such a lax view of the law. The truly law-abiding know that in addition to the kid hanging out the window, one must be standing with his head sticking out of the sunroof.
(It's no good saying "I got no sunroof" -- get one fitted!)
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>>'The appropriate kit' in my experience is never entirely satisfactory and is certainly expensive and cumbersome.As I said in my earlier post, small children in particular dislike being restrained and wriggle about, getting everything as tangled as possible. Leave it in the car and someone steals it. So schlep it back and forth? No thanks.
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The appropriate kit for my children was two sets of 4 point childrens seat belts. I do not recall the cost. Job done.
My children were always belted up with no problem.
No problem with the belts getting stolen.
P. S. I recently found the belts all in good condition so I guess its Ebay time.
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