Afternoon!
Just looking around at some Golfs (see my previos post) and I have found a 05 reg Golf 1.9TDI, 3dr with 5k on the clock for £10,995, 10 miles down the road from the black one I test drove (an 04 reg Golf TDI 3Dr) which is an identical spec, but more than a year older than the red one, with twice the miles for £11,995.
Is it purely down to the colour that the red one is £1000 cheaper, or is the Black one overpriced (i appreciate everything is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, but still, £1000 is a lot of money!!)
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But will the dealer give you the same trade in price, if you are p-exing it is the cost to change that is important not the screen price.
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I'd sooner have red than black, so red one seems a bargain to me!
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Having recently got rid of a red (sorry deep pink) Volvo, nothing on earth would bring me to buy a red car again.
StarGazer
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i can tell you the 04 one is overpriced but as regards the 05 one its not listed in my book yet but sounds very reasonable if thats what you want.
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I vowed never to own another red car after owning a mk III astra. It started off red and three years later had two pink panels. It was only seven years old when I got rid, I bought it off my dad who had owned it from new, so I new it had never had paint. Even now I cringe when I see a pink car go past.
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Black is now considered an 'extra cost option' on many price lists, for new cars. Not sure how much can be re-couped, on re-sale, but saying that black Golfs have, historically been in demand.
As to fading red, paintwork, this is more apparent on vehicles, where minimal bodycare, has taken place, by the owner, combined with the removal of lead & introduction of water based paints.
Vauxhall did have a problem 1972/73 with some rapidly fading reds, after only a couple of years.
Even hard water, used when washing your car, won't help!
VB
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I have noticed some red paints are worse than others, Vauxhall and especially Fiat seem to look dreadful after a few years. Nissan's standard red still looks great many years later.
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If you don't like "waxing" cars then don't buy red. If you do look after your car with regular treatments/washes then it's not a problem. Our red Yaris still looks fantastic after 6.5 years !
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Red cars; I've had four. In order of "colour fastness"...
A 1975 Damson red Austin Aggro 1750 Sport that went pink whilst you watched.
A 1989 "post office red" (I can't recall the name) Sierra that I purchased at three years of age and ran for another couple; this was pretty good, save for some reason along the side window bases where it became pink over a six month cycle regardless of waxing and polishing. Gentle use of Autoglm Super Resin Polish - which includes a mild cutting agent - restored the true colour each time.
Ignoring the rust holes come five years, a bright red 1984 MG Metro owned from new for eight years that just needed a light annual polish to stop any blooming.
My March 2003 Ruby red Volvo V70, owned from new, which hasn't faded a jot that I can tell. Even the cunning pre-painted plastic covers (not obvious as such unless you "know") that run up the A-pillars and along the roofline are still matched with the bodypaint. This applies under s o d i u m (I think the swear filter will baulk without the spaces) street lighting, too. Perhaps newer water based automotive paints do have one advantage over older paints after all.
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BTW - Running the Austin Aggro a close second for the worst colour fastness award is - of all colours - Dad's 1979 Ivory white Volvo 244. Within a year the paint had a "dusty" bloom that when polished off would return within another year. We later learned that this - and the canary yellow - paint caused Volvo no end of trouble. White 244s of this vintage also rusted their bodywork more quickly than any of the other colours.
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A 1989 "post office red" (I can't recall the name) Sierra that I purchased at three years of age and ran for another couple; this was pretty good, save for some reason along the side window bases where it became pink over a six month cycle regardless of waxing and polishing. Gentle use of Autoglm Super Resin Polish - which includes a mild cutting agent - restored the true colour each time.
Hmmm, must have been that I didn't look after mine too well then, although it wasn't for the want of trying.
My 1988 Red Sierra held quite well except the roof, which was so pink and faded that, by the time I got rid of it, it was stretching the imagination to say it was any colour at all!
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im with - fossyant if you dont polish then the pigment flies, i seem to remember a thread on here last week? where people were proud to not polish?
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Not just to not polish, but to flaunt our odd-coloured panels... In another thread though the other day, red was identified in some carp survey as the second most underclassy colour for cars after white... there are some great reds, some Alfa reds, not that sort of Italian postbox racing red but with more cherry in it...
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Some cars had their street cred diluted if they weren't red ~ XR3i for example.
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I just bought a red car, and it was priced substantially cheaper than an equivalent metallic model.
I personally don't like red, but this car was top value and in a much newer and better mechanical condition than the popular colour at the same sort of price.
Sure, I might lose some extra money when I come to sell, but I've already made up for it with the low purchase price, and hopefully, lower maintenance costs (as well as less interest to pay).
ykl
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If you buy a red car now(i would i like them)in a couple of years time at resale you might be laughing as its one of the in colours.Unlike silver which at the moment is everywhere and dull as ditchwater.
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my estate is silver im not just having a dig at silver car owners.
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According to the AA "Grey is the fastest growing choice for new-car buyers."
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believe it or not thats the colour of my main car!!
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Depends on the car.
Something like a Polo, an Alfa or MR2 looks good in red IMHO. A Merc E-class in red looks horrible. Anything a bit sporty always looks good in red.
I have really gone off silver though, far too many silver cars now and I can see it becoming the 'new white' in a couple of years!
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scarily enough the four cars in our household are all red, 1 saab, 2 golfs and a citroen.
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Well the mystery of the low price has been revealed. Although it's an '05 plate, it was obviously late registered as it does not have Air con (I think it was onlt the first of the MK5 that didnt have air con as standard). The dealer then admitted this was an 04 car. My 54 Golf S has Semi auto climate control as stnadard, so i had expected the same.
They offered me £9k trade in for mine.
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OK...so the GOOD looking, solid colour red cars are...
Bently Continental with the white (& I don't like) leather & red piping upholstry.
Most rag tops
Most city cars & superminis
E Type & XK8
Range Rover - there's a well speced blingish one in Luton
Rx8 - but it's not a solid red
VB
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