Ford Capri-Good buy? - touristboy
Looking for a fun weekend car to buy and fancy one of these retro beasts!

Anyone owned one and can give me an opinion on them? Is it a high insurance group? Anything I shoyuld look out for? What is the best model to have?

Know I will probably get shot down for wanting one...;-)
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Altea Ego
Now were talking! none of this MGB rubbish!

www.fordcapri.co.uk/

It has to be the MK1 or MK1 facelift*. What to watch out for? RUST - everywhere. Oh and they handle like a dog.

*Unless its a 2.8i brooklands
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Ford Capri-Good buy? - cheddar
My first job, 1979, aged 17, my boss had a MkIII 2.0S, he would hand me the keys so I could run errands, I was in my element and dreamt about owning a 3.0S. Would feel so old and stodgy to drive now though I bet.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - scc
I had a 2 litre V4 Capri back in the 70's -very light at the back, especially in the wet - spectacular skids were easy to achieve!
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Happy Blue!
Cortina in drag, but the 3.0 or 2.8 were torquey beasts that sound great. Easy to work on and cheap to run if you can find one without rust. Best are the run out 2.8s.
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
Ford Capri-Good buy? - sierraman
'Cortina in drag, '

Cortina rear suspension was completely different.
I had a Mk.2 1600GT,quite fast and fun to drive.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - tr7v8
When a current model I drove one & at the time had an Opel Manta GTE Hatch, The Opel could & did run rings around the Capri. Something to do with having proper suspension instead of cart springs!
The GTE was a Company car & did 42K miles in its first year & had people fighting to buy it afterwards.

Jim

Ford Capri-Good buy? - nutty_nissan
Get a Capri 2.8, for performance to keep up with today's cars. I love the twin exhaust pipes on that model. There is a special edition called the Capri 280 that was made right at the end. Someone's got one of them on ebay, and it's been totally restored. Have a look..
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Pugugly {P}
Remember that the bigger engined cars don't enjoy a happy relationship with the rear wheel drive set up. It is a pretty primative set up (if not fun !). The 3,0 litre V6 is a monster in the wet and will happily spin its wheels in the lower gears ! Fun car superb sound.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Adam {P}
Dad went through a Capri phase when I was younger.

I remember when he got shut of the 2.8 and got a 3.0. I was three, and had a booster seat in it.

And I still remember it to this day.

Awesome cars. Get one.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Pugugly {P}
Adam,

Was it as tail happy as I remmeber ? (Had a T Plate 2.8i in the family when we were in between life crises and cars back in the seventies)
Ford Capri-Good buy? - nutty_nissan
Yes, the 2.8i was pretty tail happy! Great fun if you know what you are doing!
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Adam {P}
I've just asked Dad PU and he smirked. Began to mention something about fishtailing and Mum glared at him.

Then he said it was a perfectly well behaved car. Dunno what he means.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Pugugly {P}
It makes a modern big engined BMW a pussy cat in comparison I can tell you !
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Altea Ego
PU

there were every bit as tail happy as you thought. Those cars taught me how to powerslide and handle massive lift off foot down oversteer. They used to understeer as well if you didnt over steer them correctly! Widowmakers in the wet

The best fun of my life was a unmodified 3 litre Mk1 round castle comb circuit. (till the front brake pads cooked, broke up and dropped out)
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Adam {P}
I really want a Capri now.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Pugugly {P}
TVM,

This is where I actually agree with you about RWDs being a handful and certain FWDs being safer for the motoring masses !
Ford Capri-Good buy? - nick
Get a good one and keep it good and enjoy great fun and depreciation-proof motoring. Prices for these have gone up quite a bit in the last few years and I think will continue to climb for the best examples.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Roger Jones
The revival story of my 2.8i is told here:

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=13556&...f

I have never had any problems with the handling of this car.

I've now done 12,000 miles since restoration, without missing a beat. Great car, much fun, never to be sold. Average MPG 26.9.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - madf
Horrible driving position: too low. And dashboard a reject from Woolies.
Makes Bangle look like a talented designer:-)
madf
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Adam {P}
Rubbish!
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Altea Ego
Forgive him father - for he know not what he says.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Ford Capri-Good buy? - cumfray1
Here's what you should expect to pay for a mint one

cgi.ebay.co.uk/1987-FORD-CAPRI-280-GREEN_W0QQitemZ...m
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Altea Ego
Find me a Mk 1 pre facelift - 3000GXLR
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Adam {P}
I honestly think that if I had 5 grand I've have a crack at that.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - cumfray1
At hte other end of the scale

cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-CAPRI-S-5SPD-BLACK-1984_W0QQit...m
Ford Capri-Good buy? - pmh
cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-CAPRI-S-5SPD-BLACK-1984_W0QQit...m


The photos very carefully manage to exclude the mounting points of the Macpherson Struts I wonder how many times it has been plated?



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pmh (was peter)


Ford Capri-Good buy? - Armitage Shanks {p}
No bids, yet, and the man who wrote the blurb could do with a copy of "Eats, Shoots and Leaves" - spare apostrophes sprayed about at random!
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Martin Devon
2, yes I said 2 bags of cement in the boot, (old sizes bags!!), to attempt to keep the beast on the road. 2.8 Cologne V6. Nothing like it ever.

Whoooooooooeeeeeeeeeee! MD.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - mare
Opel Manta GTE Hatch >>


Nice!
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Pezzer
We always said they put the 'r' in the wrong place.... :-) Several mates ended up in ditches who drove these at least one of whom was seriously injured - but this was when we were young and inexperienced. I seem to recall them not being very clever in the wet.

P

Ford Capri-Good buy? - Pugugly {P}
The 2.8 was SWMBO's car when I met her, she drove it like a demon but never lost it. I think the 2.8s were better than the 3.0 litre ptobably a combination of better power delivery, tyres and suspension set up.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Roger Jones
The limited-slip differential probably helped too. If only they hadn't put the wrong lubricant in on assembly. I repeat: I have never had a problem with my car's handling and I suspect that the reports of those who did come a cropper probably ought to include the reckless youth factor as much as the car's intrinsic qualities. I can well imagine word gaining currency that "they break away if you push them", so they got pushed even more. You can put anything in a ditch if you try hard enough.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Altea Ego
There was a huge difference in handling as the marque went on, and dependent on the power plant used. I think I drove every marque and every variant over the last 30 years. They draw me like magnets. You cant take the essex out of the boy.

The early Mk1's were very crude suspension wise. The long bonnet meant that the lesser power plants (1.3, 1.6 and 2.0 litre)were against the bulk head with a big empty gap to the front so had a fair weight distribution. The animal three litre filled the engine bay, and pushed a lot of weight in front of the front wheels. Given the poor suspension, huge torque and RWD this became the real animal.

The later marques had much better suspension, better weight distribution, fatter and better tyres, and when it got to the last of the 2.8is and 280s was actually a much tamer beast. Anything with a hatch was a comparitive doddle.

The 3 litre Mk1s were the ditch seekers and in my mind the prettiest and sexiest of cars ever made.

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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Ford Capri-Good buy? - cheddar
The 3 litre Mk1s were the ditch seekers and in my
mind the prettiest and sexiest of cars ever made.



RS2600 and RS3100! IIRC the former was Cologne developed (as were the 2.8i's by the way) and the latter Essex, Dunton I guess.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Pugugly {P}
Wasn't that the V6 Essex engine ? A fine British made lump that powered Ambulances of that era. I'm trying to remember the name of 2.8 engine,,,,was it the Cologne (?), anyway it was a far smoother motor than the Essex. Professionals on Men and Motors, watch it and weep !
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Pezzer
Ref The Professionals - I watched this over Xmas too - this was 'not to be missed TV' as a lad and to my surprise I still enjoyed it even now. Its not very PC by today's standards but coming back to a motoring link I always wanted the Escort not the Capri !!
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Bill Payer
I owned a 1978 2.0S (the one with twin headlights) from new ? it was silver with Recaro seats, alloy wheels etc. I?ve never owned any other car that drew such a lot of admiring glances ? my then girlfriend hated it!
I never had a problem with oversteer ? I guess it didn?t really have the power. However understeer in the wet was ridiculous ? it just wouldn?t go around corners, roundabouts etc, at *any* sort of speed. I had quite a big crash in it after a few months when a country lane turned right and the car didn?t.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Pugugly {P}
"The car you always peomised yourself" FoMoCo's buy line !
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Altea Ego
was the tag line to the first "story" advert made.

It was, and I did.

I first saw one ( a mk1 ) outside school as I left for the day. Inside was a sharpsuited yoof picking up the prettiest girl in the school. He was of course parked across the school gates.

I knew I would have one from that moment.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Pugugly {P}
I remember the MKII coming out, we lived very close to a German Ford Dealer at the time and I recall trying to steer my dad towards them (especially the red 2.0 with those glorious elongated number graphics in matt black). My dad did an impressionof a big engined one and fishtailed away home.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Altea Ego
Ok guys you have to watch "Life on Mars on TV next week. About a detective who gets whisked back in time to 1973.

The star of the show is a .........................



Mk3 Coke Bottle Cortina, a GXL no less.......... I have seen a pilot and it has more 1970s motoring in it than the Sweeney....
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Ford Capri-Good buy? - cheddar
Now the best MkIII Cortinas were the facelift ones, '74 on, much better dash, model of clarity at the time.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - madf
Adam said "Rubbish!"

Glad you agree with me on my views of Capris..:-))))
madf
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Altea Ego
OOOo no. Mk3 with teh dials down tunnels......Utterly hideous..... The revised dash was a fairly short upgrade (18 months?) as the whole car rapidly turned into the pre sierra Mk4.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Ford Capri-Good buy? - cheddar
OOOo no. Mk3 with teh dials down tunnels......Utterly hideous..... The revised
dash was a fairly short upgrade (18 months?) as the whole
car rapidly turned into the pre sierra Mk4. >>


The facelift was approx late '74 (N) to late '76 (R) when the MkIV was launched. It was also distinguished by the re emergence of the 'E' badge due to the 2000E replacing the GXL, also 'GL' replaced 'XL', 'GT' was dropped IIRC and was only replaced by the 'S' on the MkIV.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - cheddar
Also did'nt the early MKIII's have the pushrod 'Kent' 1.6 and the 2.0 V4 from the Corsair, IIRC the 'Pinto' 1.6 and 2.0's OHC's were introduced shortly before the facelift, perhaps mid '73.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Pugugly {P}
What Channel RF ?
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Altea Ego
www.bbc.co.uk/drama/lifeonmars/about.shtml
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Ford Capri-Good buy? - cumfray1
My BiL used to have a white Tickford Capri. What a car this was,looked great on the outside & inside but alas the tetley tea men had squatted underneath through time & was swapped for a VW Jetta GTI.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - mikeyb
Try this site - the guy has a few nice ones for sale

www.affordableclassics.co.uk/carsforsale.htm

My dad had one when I was a wee lad - 16oo GT. lots of show, but not much go I recall, although always reliable
Ford Capri-Good buy? - cheddar
I like the 2000E with GXL front and 5 speed box!
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Vansboy
XDL 726L Mk1 2.0 GTXLR Evergreen Metalic, steel sunshine roof, REMOTE CONTROL (on a cable) 8 track stereo, first 'good' car I ever bought myself. £825 & my D reg Spitfire, way back in the summer of 75 - a 19 year old single lad, who wore a suit to work, in those days, too!

MEMORIES!!!!!!

VB
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Pugugly {P}
TB,

Apart from the rosey tint of nostalgia, they were cars of their time. You can still repair them without a laptop, you can probably still buy bits for them, hell you can even change the headlamp units/bulbs yourself. Go buy one and tell us about it.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Martin Devon
XDL 726L Mk1 2.0 GTXLR Evergreen Metalic, steel sunshine roof, REMOTE
CONTROL (on a cable) 8 track stereo, first 'good' car I
ever bought myself. £825 & my D reg Spitfire, way back
in the summer of 75 - a 19 year old single
lad, who wore a suit to work, in those days, too!
MEMORIES!!!!!!
VB
Nearly the nifty fifty then. Will be catching you up soon. As you say, such memories. Oh!, by the way.........where did all that time go?


vvbr.........md
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Roly93
I like the 2000E with GXL front and 5 speed box!

Ah nostalgia ! I had a Cortina Mk3 2.0 GXL, what a fabulous car that was IN ITS DAY.
Okay the handling was stodgy to say the least, but the cool quasi-American styling and strong performance made a refreshing change from the boring norm at the time.
Even BMW weren't making particularly enticing stuff in the early 70s.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - peranaman
Try this site - the guy has a few nice ones
for sale
www.affordableclassics.co.uk/carsforsale.htm


This site has some of the best 280's in the land www.brooklands280.com
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Martin Devon
Ok guys you have to watch "Life on Mars on TV
next week. About a detective who gets whisked back in time
to 1973.
The star of the show is a .........................
Mk3 Coke Bottle Cortina, a GXL no less.......... I have seen
a pilot and it has more 1970s motoring in it than
the Sweeney....
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >

One of my best mates at the time had a coke bottle GXL auto. He and I thought it was the bees knees, about 1975 methinks. Another had a 1.6 GT 'bout '76 and god did we think that it was fast. We ruled the world on the way to the Red Lion at Brentford on those friday nights. aaah! VERY happy days. Sadly he is no longer with us. Only the good eh! (and no fault of his)

VVBR................MD
Ford Capri-Good buy? - mikeyb
Dont worry about the insurance - you can now get them on classic policies
Ford Capri-Good buy? - autumnboy
One of my best cars I ever had. First was 1973 MK1 3ltr V6 manual, then a 1976 MKII 3ltr V6 auto. Of the two, the manual was best for performance, but the second for comfort and road holding. The 3ltr is a far better engine than the 2.8, the tappets never need adjusting where the 2.8 need regular checking. Also the 2.8 suffers from crankshaft rumble and in general a noiser engine although the later models had a 5 speed box, LSD and better suspension.

I had a Sierra 4x4 with a 2.8 and this was far my best car, but wished it had the 3ltr unit not the 2.8 for the reasons given and it was'nt as torqueky as the 3ltr.

The 3ltr's where good for a 120k plus with the honing marks still the bores, but the 2.8 crank started rumbling at about 50k. The 3ltrs were fitted to Reliant Simitar's, TVR's and Gilbern's

So I would have a Mk1 or II any day with a 3ltr and manual transmission as a fun car, but my desire would be another 4x4 again.

Ford Capri-Good buy? - autumnboy
Also I forgot to add these MK1 and II were made in Germany and of better quality.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Marc
Very true. My dad had a brand new 1975 MkII 1.6XL and it was rusty before three years old - especially around the headlamps. He replaced it with an ex demo 1978 2.0 Ghia (Mk II) built in Germany and that was still very tidy when it was nicked in 1985. Much better steel apparently. I still think the nicest one he had was the 1969 1.6 (OHV) GTXLR however.

My first car was a 1982 1.6 Calypso and I ran it into the ground by 110k and ten years old. The drivers seat collapsed, heating fan failed, rusted badly on front valance, headlamp surrounds, door bottoms and boot lid, rear parcel shelf collapsed, both doors drop on their hinges, water got in through front bulkhead and the spare wheel well was a fishtank. Engine was OK though.

Haynes do a DIY restoration book for the Capri, it's very useful. If I were to buy another as a weekend/hobby car I would have a MkII 2.0 or 3.0 S - like Minder
Ford Capri-Good buy? - sierraman
Haynes do a DIY restoration book for the Capri, it's very useful. If I were to buy another as a weekend/hobby car I would have a MkII 2.0 or 3.0 S - like Minder


Speaking of which-http//minder.org
no direct link,use the drop down list on the left to go to Terry's Capri page to see them.
If you get one I have an Arthur Daley tax disc holder and rear window sticker(in original packaging)that would turn it into a quality motor.The sticker says'supplied by Arthur Daley,the name to trust for one owner motor cars.Specific mileages and M.O.T.s arranged.Insurance claims and accident damage to order.'
Ford Capri-Good buy? - sierraman
'Speaking of which-http//minder.org'

Sorry,should have been - http//www.minder.org

{or even www.minder.org - DD}
Ford Capri-Good buy? - rtj70
My uncle used to have a Gilbern with one of those engines. It was fast! Admittedly very little weight with a fibre glass body but it did have nice Connolly leather interior. No seat belts though.

He's currently onto his second XK140 I think. A convertible this time.

Back to the Capris... remember coming to Manchester in 1989 as a student and could not help laughing when one of the GMP fast patrol cars was a 3.0 Capri! Probably some RS variety but still a Capri.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Kevin
I've told you guys before. If you want a "real mans" Capri.. this is the one you want..

f2.rallysportnews.com.au/cms/A_104102/article.html

www.capriv8.de/perana-engl.html

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?v=e&t=26...7

Kevin...
Ford Capri-Good buy? - touristboy
Thanks for all the replies, has been really interesting and informative!

Am definitely going to buy one so am on the lookout for a good example.

Was looking at the porsche 944 but have heard whispers that they are a money pit, any opinions? Think they look fantastic and even though I have not driven one can imagine they are a decent drive?

Ford Capri-Good buy? - cumfray1
Was looking at the porsche 944 but have heard whispers that they are a money pit, any opinions? Think they look fantastic and even though I have not driven one can imagine they are a decent drive?

It MUST have FSH if not it WILL be a money pit. My friends brother had a 944 & he loved it. If you buy one check the engine for oil leaks, knocks & wheezes & also that it drives & stops in a straight line, make sure the panel lines are all straight n true & that it has power steering, also check all the electrical switches. Your best bet if you decide on a 944 is to buy from a member of the owners club, that way you can be sure it has been looked after. Hope this helps a little.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - madf
Car Mechanics did an article on rebuilding a 944 engine. DIY costs around £15000 in parts alone.

I did a LOT of research on buying a 944 turbo.. Decided a fool and his money are best kept together and did not. Electrical problems (also another Car Mechnics article on ECUs ) can be eye wateringly expensive.

Routine maintenance is £££££S.

Petrol pipes rust, - not cheap.. suspension age and wear, clutches diffs etc.. All £££££S...

madf
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Adam {P}
I couldn't be positive, but I'm almost sure my Dad's just dropped the subtlest hint ever for me to buy a Capri...



Ford Capri-Good buy? - cheddar
I couldn't be positive, but I'm almost sure my Dad's just
dropped the subtlest hint ever for me to buy a Capri...


"you could borrow my Farrah flares, Ben Sherman shirts and Raybans son ...."
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Altea Ego
Adam

I have a genuine Red Marlboro rally jacket with white stripes down the sleves, it has a Ford Capri patch sewn on the front.

Let me know when you need it

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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Ford Capri-Good buy? - madf
" couldn't be positive, but I'm almost sure my Dad's just dropped the subtlest hint ever for me to buy a Capri..."

Capris don't do subtle.




madf
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Adam {P}
Sorry - for some reason, I've only just picked up on teh new replies to this thread.

You're telling me a Capri wouldn't be more toned down than my car???!

>>I have a genuine Red Marlboro rally jacket with white stripes down the sleves, it has a Ford Capri patch sewn on the front.<<


I'll take it!
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Kevin
>I have a genuine Red Marlboro rally jacket with white stripes down the sleves,

By golly so do I!

I won it by buying a pack of Marlboro would you believe?

Kevin...
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Adam {P}
I'll give you a pack of Malboros for it.
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Kevin
> Car Mechanics did an article on rebuilding a 944 engine. DIY costs around £15000 in parts alone.

I guess they had to do it five times before they got it right then?

The cost for a full bottom end rebuild was about £1200 on mine incl. labour (about 10yrs ago).

>Routine maintenance is £££££S.

Don't know what the price is now but I think the routine service was just over £200 then. Check Porsche World magazine for todays prices but I doubt they'll be much over £300 now.

944s (especially the 250bhp Turbo-S model) are excellent everyday fun cars and very reliable.

Kevin...
Ford Capri-Good buy? - tr7v8
Where does the ££££££s rubbish come from, not from anyone who knows obviously!
Yup quite agree do a lot of work myself just upgraded to S2 4 pot Brembos all round on mine & done discs & a front wheel bearing, discs £43 front, £40 Backs, wheel bearing £ 20.
Service is £ 240 from a specialist. Expensive bits are belts around £220 if just the belts, mine was £ 470 as idlers & seals needed doing. Clutch is expensve circa £ 600 but needs it around every 80K or so.
Someone on Porsche net has just had an engine rebuilt to an effectively unlimited budget by a specialist for £ 4,400.
But sensible way is grab another egine for circa £ 1,500 cos they don't generally wear out.

Jim
Ford Capri-Good buy? - Group B
I've told you guys before. If you want a "real mans"
Capri.. this is the one you want..
f2.rallysportnews.com.au/cms/A_104102/article.html
www.capriv8.de/perana-engl.html
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?v=e&t=26...7
Kevin...


There are currently contributors to 2 UK car magazines with Capris with V8 conversions. www.ppcmag.co.uk/staffcardetail.asp?id=21 .

When I was a kid my Grandad had a Mk.2 Capri 3 litre Ghia, and the sound was brilliant, nearly as good as a V8. IMO you've got to get at least a V6 one; a wheezy 4-cylinder engine wont do it justice. ;o)
Ford Capri-Good buy? - steveo3002
sierra man...if you want to part with the minder tax disc set, ive looking for one for ages
steve.mm@tesco.net

Ford Capri-Good buy? - Vansboy
Looks like some sort of 'back in time' cop series, starts soon on BBC - the guy was in a Cortina GXL, from the brief trail I saw.

& the GXL, was no match for the 2000E we had - PDP 752M, full length webasto roof - auto, midnight? blue & another 'nice' car!

VB
 

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