Favourite? Surely everyone hates them?
Personally I've never seen the advantage of one, but in your "dream garage" would you have one?
I think the Land Rover 110 Defender has a certain integrity, and a Haflinger would be a hoot.
Obviously if your journey involved driving more than 5 minutes at higher than 50mph you'd take another car from the dream garage, but does anyone else have a favourite?
These are some of the few cars that look better when they're dirty, so less work to wash the dream garage!
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Ok,call me a hypocrite, but if I win the rollover tomorrow I may need a a Landcruiser in the fleet ,not for urban driving mind,only for my move to the country ;.)
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i'm quite happy with my ml270cdi does everything i want it to do.
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Range Rover Overfinch, or a Brabus M series.
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Bowler wildcat for the muddy stuff :-) and an integrale for the road...
teabelly
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Range Rover Autobiography
Andy
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Landcruiser for normal driving around town, to pick my daughter from school, the supermarket and for driving into the centre of London.
But the Dodge Ram for when I really need to do more than just annoy the little people.
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Or perhaps I'd have a Hummer H1 Alpha to clear away those Dodge driving herberts ;.)
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That's MISTER herbert to you.
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In the 35 years I've been driving, I've only ever taken the wheel of 4 examples of 4x4s, a measure of my interest in the things. If I were spending lottery winnings, I think a Subaru Legacy Outback would be my choice. Here's my 4x4 guide;
Range Rover - vast wasteful plutocratic nonsense and a real challenge to drive quickly
Discovery - comfortable, civilised, useful to live with
Defender - noisy, uncomfortable, rattly, apparently not fitted with suspension
Citroen BX 4x4 - comfortable, roomy, underpowered, surprising cornering ability
Hawkeye
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Stranger in a strange land
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Panda of course.....
Old or new, a great funky little car. delivered with a sense of irony that only Italians can really understand :-)
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I was brought up on a farm and I still have a soft spot for the old 1950's Landrover that I used to drive off road when in my early teens .
I used to love the challenge of negotiating the worst terrain I could find on the farm and used to race it everywhere.
My old man complained a bit at the time when I hit a filled in second world war tank trap at around 50 mph.
The trap still had a drop of a couple of feet covered by long grass and when we hit we both bounced up and hit the roof with our heads whilst our poor old sheepdog took off and ended up cowering in the back in a heap....
Happy days.
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Agreed about the Land Rover with the headlights close together; but the inspiration for that surely was the Jeep, such as I drove in Germany in the late forties; GI proof and Tomo proof!
(Not that I was called Tomo then, obviously; in fact I was called Jock, however much I protested.)
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Agree with Hawkeye, the 2.5l Subaru outback I had was one of the best drives I have experienced whatever the journey or road conditions, fully laden or empty.
If I won the lottery I think it would be the 3.0 H6 version now.
(Fat chance as I have never ever bought a lotto ticket however!)
StarGazer
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has to be isuzu trooper 2.8td lwb it will pull a train and it's not too luxurius to not be used as it should be...cheers...keo.
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If you want your 4x4 to handle like a sports car, then you will not be disappointed with a Toyota RAV 4, especially if they install the forthcoming 180 bhp diesel engine, it will be a real flying machine.
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problem is it's a bit higher than a sports car and certainly wont corner like one still good fun though...cheers...keo.
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Rav4 isn't too bad a handler compared to it's peers but it's no sports car.
The 180bhp diesel almost certainly won't be used in the current Rav4 - will almost certainly be introduced in the new Rav due next year.
I'm happy to supply all you lottery millionaires with cheap landcruisers as i know you'll all still be tighter than a ducks behind despite your winnings!
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i like the old landcruiser but the new ones are too posh, for me anyway. perfect for the school run though all those high kerbs and grass verges...cheers...keo.
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If you want your 4x4 to handle like a sports car, then you will not be disappointed with a Toyota RAV 4, especially if they install the forthcoming 180 bhp diesel engine, it will be a real flying machine.
Eh? A sports car? I think I might just stick to my Skyline GTR, thanks very much ;-)
Believe it or not I once (briefly) had a Range Rover as a company car. It was loaned to me by Land Rover when I was doing some work for them in about '95. It was the 3.9 model with the Dunlop/Lucas air suspension. It was an absolutely horrible car - did a great impression of a pendulum when driving along a twisty road! The air suspension system was horrible - we did some work on it and it was a real 'Heath Robinson' lash up with those 'rolling lobe' air springs and 'pot on a rod' ride height sensors. Rover forgot to specify proper diagnostic facilities in the software and Lucas wanted £100k to retro-feature them - so it never got properly sorted. I could never understand how they got customers to pay that much money for a vehicle that had a dash which looked like is was designed and made in the back streets of Hong Kong.
My favourite 4x4 (apart from the likes of the Skyline) would be one of the Subarus.
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You bought yourself a skyline then? Which one did you get in the end?
teabelly
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My dream 4 x 4 would be the TD5 Discovery. I don't like the new series 3 disco. It looks too much like the transit for my liking.
I saw a very nice top of the range TD5 a few months ago. In black and with all the trimmings. Mileage was on the high side though and it was a little over priced IMO.
Oh well, now we are investing in yet another project, it'll have to be the old 200TDi for a while, unless I do sell it.
H
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'96 GT-R
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Land Rover Defender.
Reasons
1. Classless
2. Integrity
3. Fixable
4. Reliable
5. Iconic looks.
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No one's mentioned it yet so I will.. a 1985 Ford Sierra XR4x4 in white.
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Why does it have to be in white?
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Helikes white...maybe...cheers...keo.
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I've always liked ordinary Land Rovers - my old '90' has recently departed, probably for the great mudpit in the sky.
Also when it first came out around 1970 the original Range Rover was for a while my dream car.
Now, the poor old L-R Defender's timeless character is finally reaching its sell-by date as things like forklifts and JCB's look modern beside them now!
I've gone off SUV type 4x4's, even the new Disco looks brutal and overweight. The exception is the VW Touareg - it looks rather must-have. Funny, because its cousin, the Porsche Cayenne, looks ghastly!
Cheers, Sofa Spud
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Have to say I rather like the Nissan Murano. Saw several Infiniti FX35 in France last week (the same car but for other markets) and was rather impressed.
Mind you, for proper mud-plugging it would have to be a Range Rover.
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'cos it looks better in white than red, the only other colour available i think,.
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Lancia Delta HF Turbo
or maybe a Scooby WRX
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Porsche 959
Not really, just wanted to be the first to say it.
I would probably go for a Range Rover with all the trimmings.
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Mitsubishi Legnum (Galant Estate) VR-4. Full time 4WD, ABS, Auto Stability Control, Automatic Yaw Control, 5 speed auto with up/down (tiptronic style), twin turbo, intercooler, 280 bhp.
Oh,and privacy glass ;-)
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> I'm not easily intimidated in my CXT:
Meet me at dawn:
www.us-army-info.com/pages/pics/gallery/hummer/pag...l
I use the LM002 for shopping.
www.lamborghiniregistry.com/LM002/
Kevin...
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For genuine 4x4 ability on a shoestring the Suzuki SJ takes some beating.
Small, simple, lightweight, nimble and economical with capabilities that shame some of the uberwagens mentioned above.
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For all-round useability as a car and without spending too many pennies, I reckon my company Skoda Octavia 1.8 5-valve turbo 4x4 takes some beating. Wouldn't make the "dream garage", but earns it's place in the real one.
My other car's a V8 Disco. Everything said about it's virtues in terms of ability and comfort is true :-) Everything said about it's reliability is also true. I reckon it's about to set a record for longest time spent in the shop :-( The only "dream" alternative to this would be a newer one without the moody electrics.....
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If I was living up a long unpaved track up a hillside, I'd want a 4X4. Only two have ever really appealed: the Fiat Panda and the Land Rover. I have rather liked some of the spartan and functional smaller Japanese 4X4s I have driven, but they don't make me smile the way a Panda does, or feel that I'm in a go-anywhere machine like a Landie does.
But I think I'd rather walk around naked than be seen in a gas guzzling, leather-seated über-wagon with a price-tag far in excess of anything you'd really want to take bouncing down a worn-out track. (Which I guess is why those things live in Chelsea).
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Recently drove a ML270CDi. Thought it awful. Badly built and drove like a tank.
Would like to try a Toureg V10 TDi but my Scooby Forester is fine although it doesn't go off road, but then neither do I. I wonder if Red Ken likes them?
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
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Scooby Legacy estate. Does everything a 4x4 does on road and a surprising amount of what a 4x4 will do off road.
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Old style Panda 4x4.
No particular reason i've just got a bit of a soft spot for them!
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was in a X5 bm today and i was impressed with the quality of it loads of space even in the back and getting in and out was easy the door opening is huge, very comfy but it's got that badge and would you really want to take it off road i wouldn't so it's pointless for me...cheers...keo.
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Landrover Series III Airportable, aka Lightweight.
Oh I forgot I have two already.
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Always wanted the old model Panda 4x4 but never in a position to buy one. Now no longer need a big 4x4 (Nissan Terrano LWB) so just ordered a new style Panda 4x4, which is currently my fave 4x4.
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