The crazy question thread! - Imagos
Stuff you always wanted to know but were to afraid to ask!

If i left my car idling on a full tank, how long before it runs out?

If i ran my engine at maximum rev's, how long before it went bang?

if i went flat out in first gear, how long before gearbox goes
to pieces?

More crazy questions and answers wanted from the very knowledgeable backroom!
The crazy question thread! - Adam {P}
What noise would I hear if I engaged reverse at 100mph?

(Always wanted to know that one!)
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Adam
The crazy question thread! - Robin Reliant
What noise would I hear if I engaged reverse at 100mph?
(Always wanted to know that one!)
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Adam

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I once had a pupil go to second from fifth at 50mph. Eased my mind as to what I would do if the brakes ever failed. Thank God for seat belts.
The crazy question thread! - Civic8
>>What noise would I hear if I engaged reverse at 100mph?

You wont have a gearbox..it will be decorating the road ie gearbox would dissintegrate..Try cleaning that up?
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Steve
The crazy question thread! - Adam {P}
Oh good. Thanks for clearing that up!
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Adam
The crazy question thread! - teabelly
Perhaps it should be something for Top Gear or Brainiac to investigate? There are plenty of nearly scrap cars around to do tests with :-)
teabelly
The crazy question thread! - Cardew
What noise would I hear if I engaged reverse at 100mph?
(Always wanted to know that one!)
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Adam


Years ago in the Monaco GP, in the tunnel, a driver(1961 - Innes Ireland in a Lotus I believe) changed down at maximum revs instead of up.

Car disintegrated and he emerged from tunnel before remainder of car.
The crazy question thread! - john deacon
well the 1st gear and revs questions have been answered by many youngsters handed a pool car for the 1st time

seems it takes a lot!
The crazy question thread! - Imagos
I'm sure syncromesh just would NOT engage, otherwise this sort of thing would happen all the time.
The crazy question thread! - BazzaBear {P}
I'm sure a journalist junked one of the very first Jag XJ220's by selecting 1st at over a ton.
The crazy question thread! - mfarrow
Reverse doesn't have synchromesh. Beside, if you push hard enough on the gearstick, It'll go into whatever gear you like.
The crazy question thread! - Imagos
Proves how technically unminded i am! You know i'm going to try this tomorrow ;-)
The crazy question thread! - martint123
If i ran my engine at maximum rev's, how long before it went bang?

Strange, I've just read on another forum I frequent something that I won't include a link to as it may be copyrighted - but a snippet.

Stage 1. Get bike. 1998 Kawasaki 600, 20,000 miles
Stage 2. Run the engine at 8000+ rpm for 30 minutes.
Stage 3. Drain oil (thin as water and boiling) refill with just 1 litre of oil (normally 3.5). (Can hear oil boiling as it is poured in!).
Stage 4. Run engine with throttle wide open. Problems - rev limiter cuts spark, but fuel still flows, so huge bangs from exhaust, blows hole in side and fire extinguiser needed
Stage 5 next day. Top up oil, fire it up, sounds ok.

The crazy question thread! - Civic8
I thought this was about cars not motorbikes??
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Steve
The crazy question thread! - Sofa Spud
What is the A) the largest and b) the most powerful single-cylinder engine that has been fitted to a vehicle - car, bike, whatever?

cheers, Sofa Spud
The crazy question thread! - Imagos
single engined? hmmm.. maybe a Harrier aircraft?
The crazy question thread! - Civic8
Need to be more precise..all very well asking a question..But do you mean cars or otherwise.Leaves it open to all sorts of replies.Cars boats planes even model machines
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Steve
The crazy question thread! - Imagos
your're right, it has to be about cars.
The crazy question thread! - Robin Reliant
I've often wondered if you drained the engine oil and filled it with petrol instead, how long before it went bang? Or if you done the same thing to the cooling system.
The crazy question thread! - Imagos
I've often wondered if you drained the engine oil and filled
it with petrol instead, how long before it went bang?


about as long as it takes to turn the key i think!
The crazy question thread! - Civic8
Tom you would not start..If you did it would be a miracle..cooling system wont come into it
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Steve
The crazy question thread! - john deacon
whats the highest road in the world?

and whats the performance of the average car like on it compared to at sea level.

at what height does lack of oxygen really start to be felt?
The crazy question thread! - patently
at what height does lack of oxygen really start to be
felt?


JD - I've been up Pike's Peak in Colorado. There were 14 of us in a minivan, which steadily slowed down as we ascended. At about 10,000 feet it stopped - there was not enough power to pull all of us. So we got out and walked; it was then able to get going again and take half of us to the 14,000 foot peak and return for the other half.

After about half an hour at 14,000 feet waiting for the others, we got distinctly dizzy. Usual air force rules are that if the cabin altitude is above 10,000 feet then oxygen is required in order to stay alert enough to pilot the aircraft.
The crazy question thread! - Robin
I think the highest road in the world that can be driven on is the Karakoram highway between Pakistan and China. There is a pass at something like 18,000 feet.
The crazy question thread! - Mapmaker
>>Tom you would not start..If you did it would be a miracle..cooling system wont come into it --Steve

Is that really so, Steve? When a car is started after an oil change, there is no oil in the engine - it's all in the sump. It still starts. Conclusion: oil is not a requirement for an engine to start - spark, compression & fuel are the only requirements - as illustrated by Cliff's tractor.

IIRC, somebody posted a few months ago about a trial?/banger racing? day at a racetrack they had been to. To illustrate the importance of lubrication, an oil company took a car, drained the oil from it, and then ran it round the track until it seized. iirc, that took quite some time - half an hour, maybe.

Then they took another car, and drained the water. IIRC it only managed a few hundred yards before it disappeared in a cloud of smoke.

Anybody else remember this? (Connection here is too slow to search, sorry.
The crazy question thread! - mfarrow
When you drain the coolant from an engine, it's components heat up rather rapidly, closing tolerances and creating interference fits as the head and block warp, also creating head gasket leaks. The result: metal against metal. The damage is pernament! (sorry)

Draining the oil doesn't close up the tolerances so rapidly (and there is a thin film of oil remaining, even when there's no pressure), and it's why an engine with no oil will happily carry on a little longer.
The crazy question thread! - Civic8
>>When a car is started after an oil change, there is no oil in the engine

That is not true..There is always a film of oil left behind. And without oil no compression no start..Actual question was. if oil was replaced with petrol how long before it went bang..Apart from the fact petrol would wash the rings to cause metal to metal contact (loss of compression)I would expect the spark to ignite the petrol vapour..So to answer you yes oil is a requirement.And is still present after an oil drain
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Steve
The crazy question thread! - Mapmaker
>>There is always a film of oil left behind. And without oil no compression no start..Actual question was. if oil was replaced with petrol how long before it went bang..Apart from the fact petrol would wash the rings to cause metal to metal contact

Will this is a thread about crazy questions. If you really want to be quite that pedantic, Steve, I doubt very much whether sufficient of the oil on the piston rings would be removed by putting petrol into the sump to prevent compression.

So it would start... In terms of how many times it would all go round, then yes, I should think might well be right.
The crazy question thread! - Mapmaker
Didn't somebody post a link to a picture of a huge marine single cylinder diesel on here recently? Patently off-topic, I know!
The crazy question thread! - john deacon
in the us on one of the advert channels they regulary run an advert for an oil aditive that is supposed to great things for your engine

part of the show is running cars with additive, and then draining oil, and starting car up again, and wow isnt the additive great because once its been used the engine will even run with no oil, and they run it for quite a while more than an hour with no problems

of course what they dont say is that the engine would probably do the same without the additive having been used, and the engine is almost certainly knackered in some regard at the end of this

as said above if you run an engine with no water it will fail pretty quickly totally warped from overheating, unless its air cooled of course, and some motorbike engines that are descibed as aircooled (no water) are actually getting more cooling from the oil system than from the air - but thats another story

The crazy question thread! - john deacon
I think the highest road in the world that can be driven on is the Karakoram highway between Pakistan and China. There is a pass at something like 18,000 feet.

So how does your car engine do at that height ? what kind of cars use it? surely they must be way down on power? to say nothing of the drivers being dizzy?
The crazy question thread! - defender
high altitude travel was actualy behind the development of the turbo charger or high altitude compensator as it was originaly known. when the railways changed from steam to diesel in south america(I think)they found that diesel became useless as altitude rose whereas steam became more efficient,turbos were a direct result of the need for more oxegen at altitude petrol in radiator question brought back memories as
before the general use of antifreeze my grandad used diesel in the cooling system
The crazy question thread! - Sofa Spud
Re the marine engine, I remember seeing a pic of the world's largest engine, which I think was a straight 12 the size of church.

RE: single-cylinder engines, the Field Marshall and Lanz Bulldog tractors of the 1930's to 1950's had big single-cylinder diesel engines that were 2-stroke. I've seen them at vintage shows etc., they make a slow 'ponk-ponk-ponk' sound.

Cheers, Sofa Spud, replying to his own question.
The crazy question thread! - Dynamic Dave

What's the fastest speed ever recorded by someone in reverse gear?

What is the record for the longest skidmark by spinning the wheels?

What is the record for the longest skidmark by hitting the anchors in a non ABS car?

Why do dogs like hanging their heads out of open car windows whilst travelling at any speed?

Who makes the best/worst back seat driver?
The crazy question thread! - mfarrow
What's the fastest speed ever recorded by someone in reverse gear?


Just to add to that, has anyone ever been convicted by speeding in reserve?

The crazy question thread! - john deacon
the old DAF cvt auto transmission car would go as fast in reverse as it would forwards if i remember correctly

im sure some journos tried it at the time
The crazy question thread! - Cardew
The Austin Champ with a 4.0 engine did not have a reverse gear as such, but a lever to reverse the transmission. - well at least the Military version did.

Thus you could change up the gearbox and go as fast going backward as going forward.

On a disused airfield in Germany I have seen pretty high speeds achieved.

The crazy question thread! - PoloGirl
>> What's the fastest speed ever recorded by someone in reverse
gear?
Just to add to that, has anyone ever been convicted by
speeding in reserve?


I was just about to ask that!

As a child brought up on Roald Dahl books, is it true that if you run a car in reverse (like Matilda's dodgy car dealer dad), the mile counter thing goes backwards?



The crazy question thread! - Mapmaker
>>, is it true that if you run a car in reverse (like Matilda's dodgy car dealer dad), the mile counter thing goes backwards

Yes. Or at least, yes on a 1987 Cavalier that I had occasion to reverse three quarters of a mile back up a single track road where we'd got stuck with no way out. I should imagine that a digital counter might be less obliging!
The crazy question thread! - El Hacko
if you did this too often, wouldn't the authorities in Blair's Interfering State try to prosecute for "clocking" the mileage?
The crazy question thread! - keo-the-dog
have heard that lotus carlton will do 100mph in reverse dont know how true it is but having driven one and reversed at high speed will agree it might ,it's certainly scary and definetely over 60 trouble is steering in reverse at that speed(thats the scary bit)...cheers...keo
The crazy question thread! - Mapmaker
Another question:

Is it actually Friday?
The crazy question thread! - patently
Is it actually Friday?


And, if not, can we make it become Friday by asking enough silly questions?
The crazy question thread! - Truckosaurus
The Fastest in Reverse 'record' is held by journo Colin Goodwin who did it in a Light Car Company Rocket, which was one of the first bike engined cars, it had a seperate reverse box which allowed all the usual bike gears to be used in reverse mode.

I think he got upto some silly three figure speed backwards.
The crazy question thread! - Vin {P}
"If i left my car idling on a full tank, how long before it runs out?"

My car's computer tells me that at idle it uses 0.3g/hr. My tank holds about 16 gallons, so 53 hours or so. that's a 2.5L petrol Omega.

V
The crazy question thread! - Imagos
yes someone once said to me about 72 hours so that sounds reasonable.
The crazy question thread! - none

Some gearboxes DO have a synchro on reverse gear, and a clumsy driver can beat the interlocks that prevent engaging reverse directly from a forward gear. A few years ago I was following a Japanese camper van along a motorway slip road at about 60mph. His reverse lights came on and there was a cloud of black smoke from each rear tyre, we both slowed down a bit sharpish, and as I passed I could see the driver staring at his gearlever - and his passengers staring at him. A second or so later I saw him in my rear view mirror, accelerating forward again.
Back in the 60's when the first Leyland rear engined semi auto gearboxed buses appeared, reverse gear was deemed to be the emergency brake when all other means of braking had failed. Leyland claimed that a gearbox could withstand 3 emergency stops before overhaul was needed.

The crazy question thread! - mfarrow
How many miles does a double-decker bus travel in its lifetime?

Some things to do/record on a rainy day:

What is the total length of all the electric cables in my car?
What is the thread size of each nut/bolt?
How many times can the indicator relay go "tick tock" before it failes?
The crazy question thread! - Mapmaker
>How many miles does a double-decker bus travel in its lifetime?

I don't know, but 'Smiles better on a Mersey Bus,' as the advertising campaign used to go.