>I allways try and park in the 'Parent and child Space' because I refuse to accept having kids should be treated like a disabillity.
Well, aren't you just the man. I wish as many trolley and car door inspired scratches upon your car is it is reasonable to hope for.
Try going to a supermarket with a couple of young kids - its a fascinating study in coordination which usually lives me close to losing the will to live.
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I allways try and park in the 'Parent and child Space' because I refuse to accept having kids should be treated like a disabillity. Besides the wider spaces stops doors crasing open onto my paint work.
Then you may be interested in (one day) being on the receiving end of the full and frank comment that I once made to a driver in your position.
It discussed matters such as the enjoyment that I had derived from extricating two small children from the narrow sole remaining parking space, and from carrying one while shepherding the other accross the length of the car park in the face of traffic that really should know better than to travel at speed in a confined area.
Please change your mind. Parenting small children is, I agree, not a disability. Nevertheless it is *** difficult enough as it is.
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I count two very long scratches just waiting to be applied, so far.
Any other takers?
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I allways try and park in the 'Parent and child Space' because I refuse to accept having kids should be treated like a disabillity. Besides the wider spaces stops doors crasing open onto my paint work.
If I see a car without children parked in one of those spaces I always sideswipe it with the trolley, driving a deep scratch into the paintwork because I refuse to accept people who think their car is more important than children or people with a disability.
Hope that helps :-)
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Count me in.
misterp - you're either a) an incredibly selfish cretin or b) a troll. I suspect b) because I simply cannot conceive of somebody saying something so stupid and really meaning it.
On a recent trip to France, I saw in a supermarket car park there was a notice next to each disabled parking space which roughly translated read "If you take my space, then take my disability too." Perhaps we need some for parent & child spaces which say "If you take my space, then take my children shopping with you."
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If taking kids to the supermarket is such an horrific experience, why do so many people do it?
I don't mind "Parent & Child" spaces but I grumble regularly to my local Tesco that they occupy all of the covered parking and all the spaces within the first 100m of the store door - seriously irritating when I go at 3 in the morning and none of them are occupied.
And I'm too scared of running into Patently, Mark or the rest of you to hijack the space!
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>>If taking kids to the supermarket is such an horrific experience, why do so many people do it?
It is horrific - just not quite so horrific as telling my wife, who is currently suffering with morning [all flippin\' day !] sickness, that she should do the shopping herself.
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People who have kids deserve absolutely no sympathy for their "predicament" compared with disabled people. Your kids are a self inflicted problem - you want them...you just have to take all the aggro that goes with it.
I don't park in your precious spaces though.
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Who asked for your sympathy ?
And certainly I didn\'t compare children to a disability.
>>you just have to take all the aggro that goes with it.
True, but most people are more pleasant than you and misterp so its not a particular problem. And I do admire you both for not adding to the world\'s issues any more than you have already.
>>I don\'t park in your precious spaces though.
How nice.
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True, but most people are more pleasant than you and misterp so its not a particular problem. And I do admire you both for not adding to the world\'s issues any more than you have already.
Please elucidate - I don't understand what you mean. I wouldn't want any reply to upset you further.
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As Peter Kay said:
"I always go shopping with my Mum. That way we can use the parent and child spaces. She's my Mum. It doesn't say how old you have to be."
If I go to Tesco on a Saturday half the people in there are familes with children. There are probably about 8 parent and child spaces. Seems like a bit of an empty-gesture/PR exercise more than them trying to genuinely helpful IMO.
I don't park in their spaces. I park at the far end of the car park where there is no-one else to bash a trolley in to my car. I'm a well-built fella, I could use the exercise.
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Your kids are a self inflicted problem
Do you wish your own parents had resisted the temptation?
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>>If taking kids to the supermarket is such an horrific experience, why do so many people do it? It is horrific - just not quite so horrific as telling my wife, who is currently suffering with morning [all flippin\' day !] sickness, that she should do the shopping herself.
Mark, I quite agree with those who shudder at misterp's charm, but do you mind me asking a question?
I can well see why your poor wife doesn't want to do the shopping alone with the kids, but wouldn't it save you all lottsa hassle if she just sent you out alone to do that?
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When my wife is suffering from morning sickness I have three functions in life;
1) get out from under her feet and go to work and earn her money
and if not 1) then
2) take the daughter (my fault anyway) and the dogs (my bright idea anyway) and do the shopping (I eat the most anyway) and give her some peace (which she deserves anyway) and quiet.
3) know what she wants/needs doing and do it before she's noticed that she wants it so she doesn't have to live with the stress of actually mentioning to me that she'd like it done.
You'd be a braver man than me to argue with any of that in her current delicate mood. Two is enough. I could manage more children, but never another pregnancy !
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When my wife is suffering from morning sickness I have three functions in life; 1) get out from under her feet and go to work and earn her money and if not 1) then 2) take the daughter (my fault anyway) and the dogs (my bright idea anyway) and do the shopping (I eat the most anyway) and give her some peace (which she deserves anyway) and quiet. 3) know what she wants/needs doing and do it before she's noticed that she wants it so she doesn't have to live with the stress of actually mentioning to me that she'd like it done. You'd be a braver man than me to argue with any of that in her current delicate mood. Two is enough. I could manage more children, but never another pregnancy !
You poor man! Take comfort from the following:
1) There is a time limit to this ordeal and you have less than 9 months to go....
2) It could be worse, you could be the one with the morning sickness.
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If taking kids to the supermarket is such an horrific experience, why do so many people do it?
What do you suggest? A radical new diet - water only?
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I allways try and park in the 'Parent and child Space' because I refuse to accept having kids should be treated like a disabillity. Besides the wider spaces stops doors crasing open onto my paint work.
A cretin in a Mondeo did the opposite yesterday. He parked in the one remaining disabled space because all the parent and child spaces were taken. He left the 3 brats in the car while he went off to get his fags - or whatever. Along came a blue badge holder who noticed that the Mondeo didn't have a blue badge on display and parked his car right up tight behind the bumper of the Mondeo, leaving less than an inch gap inbetween. As the parking space was in the corner, the blue badge holder's car only caused an obstruction to the Mondeo. The Mondeo couldn't go forward as the shops brickwall was in the way. The elderly driver then got out, got the wheelchair out the boot and helped his partner (wife probably) into it from the pasenger seat.
5 mins later back comes the Mondeo driver to find his car well and truly boxed in. He had to wait for the elderly driver and his wife to do their shopping before he could get his Mondeo out.
It certainly relieved my boredom waiting in the carpark for my passenger to come back.
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"I refuse to accept having kids should be treated like a disability"
Apart from the fact that the supermarket is trying to make life easier for families and thus attract more business, have you also not thought of the fact that it might be to YOUR benefit?? Removing kids/pushchairs/kiddy seats from cars invariably involves opening doors wide, hence if "kiddy spaces" are removed they may be parked next to you and there is a good chance of your car getting dinged. Providing a wider space means you can avoid this by parking elsewhere. Using their space is just selfish especially if, as in our local supermarkets,it means you save only a couple of yards walk
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As a father of now (as of today!!!) three children - baby girl arrived at 4am - I tend to find myself in the middle. I think disabled spaces should be close to the store front, but that parent and child spaces should be not so close and in fact at one end, but near to the wall, so that children do not need to walk in the roadway to reach the store.
Also, all these spaces should be classified as general spaces when the store is likely to be operating at no more than say 40% capacity, otherwise people like Dulwich Estate etc and myself get frustrated. There are loads of people who keep the child seats in the car just for parking closest to the shop.
At our health club, I regularly complain if a (usually flash) car parks too frequently where it shouldn't. Most of those people have left now and the club is still busy but much more pleasant.
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
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As a father of now (as of today!!!) three children - baby girl arrived at 4am
Congratulations!!!
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Thank You!!!
You will now understand the reason for the purchase on Thursday of a new Hyundai Trajet.
Ask a grandparent or two to come out for the day and we need at least seven seats.
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
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Should we call you Espada IV now?
Congrats....
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Allow me to be the second to offer my congratulations!
You'll never get them all in your Lamborghini now.
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I wondered who would the first to spot that!!!! Well Done and Thanks. Mrs E will be happy....
Ah Well, I'll just have to earn more dosh, build a luxury garage and fill it with Ferrucio's best.
I was valuing a tattoo artists shop last week (I know, I get really high quality jobs - sigh) and he had a load of original photos of a Countach. He spotted me eyeing them up. Do you like my car? he asked. Well knock me down with a feather duster. A 35yo tattoo artist in a grotty part of the North West drives a Countach Anniversary, whilst me an almost 40yo chartered surveyor, partner in a firm is now tooling around in either a 3yo Honda CR-V or brand new Hyundai Trajet. Neither car is bad, but..............
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
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Patently - If you can find one, I'll buy it
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
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I've an idea. Why not make all the parking spaces bigger? That way the fit and able, the parents with kids, and the disabled can park where they like without getting their doors banged by other clusmy motorists or their passengers.
Cars today aren't getting any smaller, but the designers of carpark spaces stil insist on using the smallest car they can find for a template when they whiteline the markings.
The current Polo is as big as an older Golf. The current Corsa is the size of a Mk1 Astra - etc etc.
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It never cease to amaze me how Brits approach problems from the the wrong end every single given time. No offence folks, but give us a problem in this country and nine out of ten times we'll do entire Laurel And Hardy routine around it. Sometimes it's amusing, but most of the time it's just scary.
It's like when serial rapist with life sentence wins lottery. Every single media channel is full of people proclaiming rights to tell the inmate who should get his cash. You get people upset about dude playing the lottery, about fate being so ironic, even about newsagent selling him ticket. But noone even wonders how come you have inmates with LIFE sentence walk around market square and pop into corner shops to buy lottery tickets with their pocket money. Seriously, who cares about some a-hole winning some dosh when you live in a world where life sentence turns out to be summer camp.
It's the same with those spaces on parking lots. I bet somewhere out there, in secluded office, in front of CCTV monitors sit a bunch of parking planners laughing their a*** off looking at people screaming at each other and pointing their fingers all day long. "You parked in my space, you shop with my kids". "If it wasn't for kids like yours banging your fugly multipla trim all over my posh Rover doors I wouldn't have to hang those stupid teddy bear signs in my rear windows!". Would you just stop going off at each other and start focus on the source of the problem. Clearly the spaces provided to "normal" cars are too narrow. Consider the fact they had to provide people who needed open all doors wide (like parents with kids) with separate, bigger spaces. And other people, without kids, fight for these spaces now. What does it tell you? To scratch someone's Porshe? How about make all spaces wide enough so everyone can fit their Zafira between Mondeos without lesson in drawing with bumpers on metallic surfaces? Never a problem in Costco, is it? Hmmm... I wonder why....
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Thread locked and edited due to personal comments. However, I am in agreement with everything that was thrown at Febus by other contributors.
Febus, talking of abortion, if you don\'t behave, I\'ll abort your account.
DD. BR Moderator.
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Has to be a troll. Pretty much every post has been inflammatory.
Plug being pulled in 5, 4, 3, 2, ....... Febus has left the backroom.
No Dosh - Backroom Moderator
mailto:moderators@honestjohn.co.uk
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ah, in that case so has DDT
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