The Rear seat belt in my Peugeot 406 Estate has jammed with the seat in the flat position. The mechanism seems to be inside the seat so I cannot get at it. Anybody got any ideas?
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Hi Pete,
Can you put the seat back in its upright position? Or, is the seat belt itself preventing that?
number_cruncher
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Hi, the seat belt is preventing any movement whatsoever.
Pete
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Boing.
Pete, or anyone else-did you fix it & more importantly, how?
My 2001 406 Hdi estate has just done this. It's the bigger half of the two rear seats-the one with the centre belt in it & I can barely raise it. There's a fraction of an inch of play in the belt & then there's a slight mechanical noise & it stops. With my ear to the seat I can hear something engaging right down the bottom of the back. I've tried banging it with the flat of my hand, turning the car round (it was on a slope) & also reversing at speed & braking as had as poss in case the jolt in that direction might have freed it. Nope!
However, with some sustained & controlled violence I might be able to get a socket onto the nut anchoring the belt itself to the bodywork underneath. But, but, but the nut has numbers round the periphery of the head. What's that all about please? Or more to the point, can I simply undo it, counting the turns & making a note of what number corresponds with say the front of the car? Or isn't it as simple as all that-what with being a safety issue.
Thanks all. Be nice to see some of you again!
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Hi, all I managed to do was undo the seatbelt bolt that you are talking about move the seat and then reconnect the belt. This worked fine for a while but then went wrong again but I couldn't rectify it this time. I'd be grateful if someone could tell me how to get the back of the seat off to repair it properly.
Pete
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Wow Pete, that was fast!
Thank you.
Like you I studied the back of the seat with a view to going in, & it's not looking obvious. Maybe there's access if you remove the seat entirely & see what's underneath the bottom?
I've been warned NOT to try to take an inertia reel apart-apparently bits fly off for about 50 feet!
Otherwise I'd start a new thread on the issue.
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uh oh.
16mm socket on it, seat held back by girlyfiend & me in there. Started to undo, then became much tighter. Anti-clockwise right? Do I just keep on going or is there something I should be aware of please?
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It is possible that the bolt goes through the captive nut in the floor to the underside of the car. When it goes tight it is probably dirt/underseal being pulled into the thread. Anti-clockwise is the way I would expect it to go.
Can you see the end of the bolt under the car to clean it off?
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nice thinking mjm, but no-it seems to go towrds the rear then towards the bottom. It's now got to the point, because the angle is rubbish that the socket is slipping off, so off to get a 16mm ring spanner. Got 15 & 17...
BTW, my step-dad's 406 has just done almost the same- but in this case the belt is so taught that the seat cannot even be lifted. Is there a removal process-I would study mine but the rear bay of mine is lined up with dog cages etc, which I'd rather not remove just yet.
Thank you everyone!
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This happened to the centre belt on my father's Berlingo, at 6.00am just as we were loading the car up for an airport run - he just cut through the belt - no time for messing.
Fortunately, he generally uses the vehicle as a van 90% of the time (gardening business) and come MOT time, the seats aren't in the vehicle. If he carries passengers, he generally doesn't need the third rear belt. Crazy design if you ask me !
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What you do is take the seat out & it's all plain sailing.
What I saw when I completely removed the lining in the estate part bottom was a bracket in the middle holding the side of the seat in. However, I also noticed that there was a nut on the seat swivel. This untightened with an open jawed spanner (18mm I think) It's only lightly tightened. Then I used my finger tips to unscrew it & remove the washer because I didn't want it to drop..in retrospect it might have been safer to have undone the bracket-but this is what I actually did.
Then if you go down the wheelarch inside the car, pretty much in line with where one's bottom would be if one could actually sit on the seat is a black cover. Unclip this to reveal the two bolts that hold the bracket where the other side of the seat pivots. These are also lightly tightened. I don't know if it helped, but I was kneeling on the seat as I undid these. Then you simply wiggle the seat away from where it goes through the bit in the middle & then upend it into where the footwell would be.
Then you merrily undo the bolt holding in the seatbelt base. This is an utter pink fluffy dice as the end of it does indeed poke out into the underside of the car & is naturally corroded. Job for WD40 perhaps before you attack it.
Up end seat properly (keeping the tension in the belt) & once it is in that slightly inclined position the belt does what it should as you gently let a bit feed in before pulling it out again. A tremendous thwack on the back seems to remind it what to do. As you need to put the seat back down to put it back in again I pulled all the belt out & tied it round the front headrest.
Reassembly as per, but I would coat that seatbelt bolt thread & the hole it goes into with WD. Make sure the belt isn't twisted.
Also pay attention to the washers & collet that are along that bolt. Mostly because I would like to know what it is! I know the gold collet is underneath it all as the belt bracket swivels along it. blasphemy removed knows about the thin washer. Well, I seem to have one left over anyhow.
I think the lesson in future is if the seats go down is to pull out all the seat belts & tie them so they can't retract.
Took about 20mins with just me.
pink fluffy dice french cars.
Thank's to everyone-got there in the end & HTH anyone else who suffers this one.
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{Swearing edited out this time. Had I not have had time,
I would have deleted instead as per the no swearing policy - DD}
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Hi, my 406 estate was exactly the same, I even replaced the inertia seat belt, but still the problem persisted.
The answer simply was to pull a load of slack on the belt and fold and hold it with a bulldog clip when I folded down the seat.
If I forgot to do this and it jammed I simply lifted the seat a little and inserted a socket on a long extention bar and unscrewed the fixing bolt to release the belt.
Hope this helps....... Obviously a common Pug fault.
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