Err, um, we have a tie for first place. (Damp squib or what!!)
Due to naughty underhanded campaigning by NoDosh in the previous round, and quite possibly earlier rounds to keep the Alfa 156 in the Garage (thus consequently screwing up the voting in the final round), Big Brother halved the nominations for the Alfa, and this brought the final results near as damn it equal to the nominations for the TVR.
The Seat Leon scored considerably less nominations than both the TVR and the Alfa, so 3rd place goes to the Spanish one.
As the nominations were so close after the amendment by BB, the winners are the TVR & the Alfa.
This decision *hopefully* won't make ND too smug.
Here is a reminder of the results in reverse order:-
13th - Renault 5, (prematurely evicted for instigating a riot.)
12th - Vauxhall Vectra.
11th - Lada Samara.
11th - VW Golf.
9th - Austin Allegro.
8th - Perodua Nippa.
7th - Toyota Landcruiser.
6th - Citroen 2CV.
5th - Peugeot 405.
4th - Ford Mondeo.
3rd - Seat Leon.
1st - Alfa 156.
1st - TVR Tuscan.
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ps,
I was going to set up a new backroom poll so that people could vote for either the TVR or the Alfa in a bonus round of BB's garage. This would *hopefully* have prevented further vote rigging.
However, after extensive pratting around by me, I still cannot get the poll (similar to what Martyn set up some time ago) to work properly.
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You think that the Alfa having points docked and STILL joint winning won't make ND smug?
It makes ME feel smug, and I haven't even got a 156! ;)
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This is a right stitch up
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Alfa? TVR? but they are not even SUVs and weigh less than 6000lbs so how could anyone vote for them?
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I think the Alfa go the sympathy vote; asking it to leave under its own power may ahve been very embarresing!
H
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I fail to see how you can describe campaigning (which increased site traffic and got some new backroomers signed up) as vote rigging!
:: exuding smugness and disbelief in equal measures ::
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I fail to see how you can describe campaigning (which increased site traffic and got some new backroomers signed up) as vote rigging!
So posting messages exclusively in a couple of Alfa forums, along the lines of \"there\'s a thread on the HJ site called Big Brothers Garage. Please visit it and vote for the 156\", isn\'t rigging votes then?
I call that desperate measures - not campaigning ;o)
Stop spatting the dummy just cos you got rumbled.
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I'm sure you would have posted similar threads in a Vectra forum. Oh, but wait a minute, nobody loves Vectras enough to start a forum for them!
And I didn't start both threads. The one I started only got one response.
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I\'m sure you would have posted similar threads in a Vectra forum.
Nope. I was trying to run a fair quiz until you spoiled it by cheating.
Oh, but wait a minute, nobody loves Vectras enough to start a forum for them!
Really? So what about these then?
forums.vectra-sport.com
www.cavweb-forums.co.uk (which covers all models of Vauxhalls, before you get pedantic over the name)
Plenty more as well as those two.
Note that I\'m not afraid to post the urls, unlike yourself who deleted the Alfa forum url\'s that got posted.
And I didn\'t start both threads. The one I started only got one response.
I never said you started both threads.
:oP
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OI !!! Keep the noise down.
Children, [sigh].
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"If I have to stop this car ...", etc
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andymc
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Don't make me come back there.........
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I fail to see how you can describe campaigning (which increased site traffic and got some new backroomers signed up) as vote rigging!
So, next time there's a by-election looming, it'd be OK to bus in hundreds of supporters of one party to register to vote at the last minute? ;-)
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>> I fail to see how you can describe campaigning (which increased >> site traffic and got some new backroomers signed up) as vote rigging! So, next time there's a by-election looming, it'd be OK to bus in hundreds of supporters of one party to register to vote at the last minute? ;-)
Actually, doesn't that happen? I'm sure that several local councils have run buses to get their own supporters to the voting stations, especially the elderly who might have trouble otherwise.
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Actually, doesn't that happen? I'm sure that several local councils have run buses to get their own supporters to the voting stations, especially the elderly who might have trouble otherwise.
I haven't actually heard of councils doing it, but there is nothing improper about assisting and encouraging those eligible to vote.
It'd be a difft matter going outside the area to encourage people who would not otherwise be eligible to vote, to come in and sign up purely for that election so that they can swing the poll in one particular direction.
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But the councils also encourage people to register to vote in the first place.
All the people who voted for the Alfa were eligible to vote. They registered on HJ and fulfilled no less criteria than you yourself did.
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This is the week my pc chose to go wrong - so i would have helped push the TVR into 2nd place, had I been able to get on lone!!
SORRY!!
VB
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"....so i would have helped push the TVR into 2nd place..."
Don't worry VB I think that everyone was worried about having to push the Alfa! :)
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But the councils also encourage people to register to vote in the first place.
Indeed they do, but voters have to be registered before an election is called.
Next time there's an election on round your way, and it's going badly for your favourite candidate since he's been carried off on a flatbed truck, try going out to recruit more voters to improve your man's chances.
Probably best not to try, tho, unless you have a particular taste for stripey clothes and metal doors.
All the people who voted for the Alfa were eligible to vote. They registered on HJ and fulfilled no less criteria than you yourself did.
Nah, they were all bussed in. Jail for the lot of 'em!
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Ah, but this is Big Brother and as far as I'm aware, there is no restriction that says you have to have watched C4 for the last x weeks to 'phone in on their show, so why would it be any different here?
If I wanted to rig the vote I would go through all the defunct accounts and vote using those.
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>>If I wanted to rig the vote I would go through all the defunct accounts and vote using those.
We've only got your word for the fact that you didn't.
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:: speechless! ::
"You do not have to say anything. But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence."
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Right! I demand that each vote is investigated and this scurrilous accusation retracted.
Blather, rage, seethe etc. etc.
;o)
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Hands back ND's dummy that he's just spat - with carpet fluff still attached.
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:: choke ::
Assault! Everyone saw that!
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DD - we'll just have to have postal voting next time. Tony B says that's totally incorruptible.
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DD - we'll just have to have postal voting next time. Tony B says that's totally incorruptible.
Keep your head down, patently. Lottsa flying pigs about
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What!!! Do you mean that might not be a 100% true and uncaveatted statement??????
Really??????
Gosh....
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It probably is uncaveatted, 'cos the Butler tells us that caveats get lost very easily in Tony's house. Last year, a whole bunch went missing all at once ...
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I tried to do a smart alec response but the whole issue just makes me too angry so it ended up as a stream of venom. Sorry to spoilt it, NW.
Roll on the next election. Can't wait for his canvassers to turn up on my doorstep.
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So the stench of corruption pervades even the Backroom.
Outrageous, I call it.
I think we should have our subscriptions returned ...
Or a public flogging for ND while strapped to the bonnet of his Alfa.
Disgusted of Yorkshire
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Or a public flogging for ND while strapped to the bonnet of his Alfa.
Chuckle
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Dave, thanks for organising a fun and entertaining string of threads at what must have been a considerable amount of personal effort. It\'s been very enjoyable. I continue to be amazed at what a great forum this is.
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Dave, thanks for organising a fun and entertaining string of threads at what must have been a considerable amount of personal effort. It\'s been very enjoyable. I continue to be amazed at what a great forum this is.
Despite appearances, I echo that wholeheartedly. Nice idea well executed.
:o)
ND
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I just deleted some notes which were wasting the space they were occupying. If you can't take something like this light-heartedly, then you are in the wrong place - and I am only too happy to help you fix that.
Dave,
Thanks for organising this, although I'm not sure how you'll top it.
ND,
You've been strangely quiet about your Alferr today - you have got it back in a working condition, haven't you ?
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No, it's fine and well. Got it back on Friday afternoon. Turned out to be a fault with the cable taking the signal from the RPM sensor to the ECU. It was intermitently telling the ECU that I was pulling sufficient revs to get airborne, which the ECU saw as a bad thing, shutting the engine down to save it from self-destructing.
Not one the garage had come across before and a new one on the various Alfa forums, so just putting it down as "one of those things".
And yes, the part in question has "Bosch" written on it :o)
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No, it's fine and well. Got it back on Friday afternoon. Turned out to be a fault with the cable taking the signal from the RPM sensor to the ECU. It was intermitently telling the ECU that I was pulling sufficient revs to get airborne, which the ECU saw as a bad thing, shutting the engine down to save it from self-destructing. Not one the garage had come across before and a new one on the various Alfa forums, so just putting it down as "one of those things". And yes, the part in question has "Bosch" written on it :o)
My '86 Spider was grounded for exactly the saem reason. The sensor in question is one of 2 boloted to the flywheel housing.
Er.... I did mention this in a previous post when your garage were still trying to find the problem...
;-) JaB
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My '86 Spider was grounded for exactly the saem reason. The sensor in question is one of 2 boloted to the flywheel housing. Er.... I did mention this in a previous post when your garage were still trying to find the problem... ;-) JaB
:oP
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Well it would appear that there is a market for a quiz or a poll of some kind here, so I'll persevere in getting the BackRoom Poll up and running again.
DD.
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Dave
Just to echo a few of the others, Thanks for organising this. It's been a real hoot!
If you want to organise another at a later date but are too busy I guess either I or any other backroomer could do it. I suppose you wouldn't need moderator status to organise it, just leave that in the capable hands of the three of you.
Hugo
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Great poll...admired it from afar...not so sure ND deserved
quite the drubbing he got though...still...imho, he drummed
up support...something everyone is capable of doing
...gotta admit though...I prefer an earlier model to the Alfa
156...but that's not the point...hmmm...may just start a thread
*grin*
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Yup genius idea DD, just echoing what people have said.
Can we now look forward to 'Car Idol', 'How Clean is Your Car?', et al? :)
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...how clean is urs HF?
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Well we'd have to get the adjudicators around to check that one out, Frankie.
I'd bet that the footie gear, muddied footprints, and empty choccie wrappers would possibly put me out in the first round.
HF :)
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Can we now look forward to 'Car Idol', 'How Clean is Your Car?', et al? :)
How about, "I'm an Alfa Driver, get me out of here!!"
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>> Can we now look forward to 'Car Idol', 'How Clean is >> Your Car?', et al? :) How about, "I'm an Alfa Driver, get me out of here!!"
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...fair point Dave...:)
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Eeeep!
Er, morning Quinn. Nice day.
Note the clever yet subtle emphasis on "nice" there?
:o)
No Dosh - Backroom Moderator
mailto:moderators@honestjohn.co.uk
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...don't worry mate...not here to cause any nonsense
...just having a look about...that big cheese thread last
night got me called all sorts of names though...not very
nice at all!! (confusing)...still...no matter...
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that big cheese thread last night got me called all sorts of names though...not very nice at all!!
Which is why the rest of it got deleted. See, us nasty moderators do have some uses ;o)
DD.
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So who won then? :p
The Alfa obvioulsy... they had to resort to vote fixing to make it a draw ;-)
JaB
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Just back from hols so would like to have the deciding vote and say that we should have the Trevor as the winner as it is English. So there we have it.....
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Just back from hols so would like to have the deciding vote and say that we should have the Trevor as the winner as it is English. So there we have it.....
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Maybe not for much longer...
Heard in the radio tonight, some rich Russian is thinking of buying TVR !
StarGazer
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