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Volvo ad - trancer
No, not that one, the one where they claim 32 S40s were sold in one day by the same dealer to the residents of a small Swedish town. I finally gave into temptation and checked out the "documentary" last night (that red button thing on Sky). Is there any truth to it?. I find it hard to believe that it happened as they say. Surely there must have been some un-mentioned incentive for 32 people to buy the same car on the same day. A one day, half price sale perhaps?.
Volvo ad - J Bonington Jagworth
Wholly the figment of an ad-man's imagination, surely? Still, maybe there's not much choice in Sweden...
Volvo ad - frostbite
Stepford Wives go motoring?
Volvo ad - robZilla
Um, it's an advert.
Volvo ad - Hawesy1982
www.news40.volvocars.co.uk/flash/default.asp

Thats the documentary, it certainly sounds like it's serious, and not a spoof

but then i did a google news search and....

www.revolutionmagazine.com/News/index.cfm?fuseacti...5

Which contains this paragraph:

"Volvo decided to run with a spoof campaign because it would challenge viewers and get them involved. Tim Ellis, global director of advertising at Volvo Cars, said: "Even though it comes off as quite serious, the story is actually very playful -- once you think you've got it, we offer one more layer to the communication to question that assumption.""

And yes i have nothing better to do!
Volvo ad - J Bonington Jagworth
"..challenge viewers and get them involved"

Absolutely! I've resolved never to buy a Volvo already...
Real or fake???? - Motorhead
Check out this weird movie - this guy is claiming that volvo scammed him: www.carlossoto.com
Real or fake???? - Mark (RLBS)
This is difficult.

I find the mystery fascinating, and I watched with interest the clip that Motorhead posted a pointer to.

However, the guy is pretty much saying that Volvo lied to him. That could rather upset Volvo and if untrue could upset them sufficiently that they do something about it.

So I\'ve removed it. Unusually I\'m not sure about this one, so I shall be speaking with the others and getting their opinion.

If they disagree with me I shall replace it. So for the time being please bear with me and do not continue this thread.

Thank you.
Real or fake???? - Mark (RLBS)
Having consulted, I am afraid that this will remain gone.

Sorry.
Real or fake???? - Dynamic Dave
It appears that this ad was made by Volvo themselves, so this thread has been given a reprieve & merged with the other Volvo Ad thread.

DD
Volvo ad - Johno
Hi
I still prefer the new Kwik Fit advert where it sounds like they are branching out into selling typewriters now (Check out my original posting). You can't say that Kwik Fit haven't got their finger on the pulse.
Johno
Volvo ad - trancer
So basically Volvo fabricated a story to sell cars. Aren't there laws that hold companies to truth in advertising?. Whats to stop any company making false claims to sell their wares?.
Volvo ad - Kuang
To be fair though, they aren't actually claiming that the product is something other than it is. I'm pretty certain the Ford Fiesta never made a moon landing too, and probably wouldn't run too well without an atmosphere. ;)

Not too keen on the documentary, simply because it's mildly dull. I'm all for entertaining advertising though - if we have to have it, it may as well be fun :)
Volvo ad - dba
i wish kwik fit would get there finger on the pulse and get their website sorted out. its only been 'in development' for about 7 weeks.

hopefully they will be a little faster at changing a tyre!
Volvo ad - Nsar
>>quirky car advertising (Mazda)

HJ - you're having a laugh if you mean that global pap Zoom Zoom rubbish - anonymous cars do dull things in unspecified location just so that the ad can run in any country without even the few thousand required to re-dub a local script (and presumably do dull things to the sales figures)

I think Merc got it right with the Benicio del Toro "movie", at least that had intrigue; Volvo looks like someone trying to ape that concept, but not having the cojones to really go for it.
Volvo ad - Motorhead
I dunno, this Carlos documentary seems real, he's done some other stuff before, and take a look at volvo's site - they're using his film - They'll be in trouble for that. Do you think that 32 people could have made the same decision at the same time?
Volvo ad - Mark (RLBS)
I'm so glad you said that, I've had this "zoom, zoom, zoom" rattling around in my head for ages with no clue as to where it came from.

1) the advert succeeded in that it was catchy
2) the advert failed in that I had no memory of what was being advertised
Volvo ad - zackem36
It makes you wonder if there is any truth at all to the story. Why would they choose a town in Sweden to adverise in the UK?...I was wondering if there is any one that knows if there is any truth to the story?
Volvo ad - patently
I heard a rumour that Volvo promised the inhabitants that if they all bought one then Volvo would never issue an internet pop-up ad again.
Volvo ad - BazzaBear {P}
It makes you wonder if there is any truth at all
to the story. Why would they choose a town in
Sweden to adverise in the UK?...I was wondering if there is
any one that knows if there is any truth to the
story?

I have no idea whether it is true or not, but I don't think your point implies that it isn't. Surely if we assume that it is true, they'd have to use whatever town it happened in, whether it be Sweden or Mongolia?
Actually, on re-reading your post, maybe that's the point you were making....
I'll just be going now.
Volvo ad - PoloGirl
The joys of viral marketing! It's not true, yet it has acheived it's objective of getting everyone talking about it.

I've got details of the campaign filed carefully away somewhere from one of the marketing mags so I'll post again later if I can find it.
Volvo ad - BazzaBear {P}
Did you mean Viral marketing there PG? What exactly is that then? I've got visions of lots of PR people wandering round with colds at the moment....
Volvo ad - PoloGirl
Bazza... yes it's viral - no typo there.

Basically it's a kind of marketing, spread by word of mouth, or more commonly email/internet/new technology. It's main characteristic is that people are commonly heard saying "have you seen this...."

It spreads fast and wide, like a virus.

An estate agent did it very sucessfully recently, by distributing spoof house descriptions around the net, and massively increasing traffic to their own site as people clicked to see if it was "for real".

Hard to explain really, because it's so fluid.

What has happened with the Volvo campaign appears to be that they've put out this advert about so many people buying the car on the same day, and then put out their own spoof website (promoted by email - there's the viral bit, or spam, depending on how you view it), which has got everyone talking about whether the documentary is true or not. I'm not sure if it's obvious that the site claiming to expose the spoof is obviously done by volvo or not as I've not seen it. Incidentally there's now some debate about whether this can be claimed as a marketing success or not, as details of the spoof site have not spread as fast and as wide as they probably would have liked - the virus isn't spreading fast enough if you like. I think that's how it's all worked anyway.

Possibly the longest and most rambling explaination ever - sorry!





Volvo ad - BazzaBear {P}
Ah! Thank you PG. Upon reading your explanation, I have heard of viral marketing before, was just having a 'moment'.
Volvo ad - trancer
"yet it has acheived it's objective of getting everyone talking about it. "

Well congrats to Volvo for getting people to talk about their ad. Silly me, I always thought they were in business to sell cars, not conversation points. Is anyone even remotely interested in buying or even test driving an S40 since viewing or hearing about the "documentary"?, nope neither am I.


While I am on a rant, has anyone bought or become more interested in a car after being exposed to a catchy (viral pun intended) ad campaign?. I get the impression that these ad campaigns are dreamed up by ad agencies/companies looking for industry awards rather than product sales.
Volvo ad - John Basnett
I recieved an email from volvo yesterday with a link to the documentary. Having seen the adverts and being intrigued I watched the documentary. It all seemed very convincing and I didn't think much more of it. I continued to have the virtual tour of the car and all the rest and them closed the web page. When I did this I got a pop up (and I have a pop up blocker) that said something along the lines of 'The volvo advert is not true and I have proof'. I clicked on this and it was a link to the documentary makers website and there is a second documentary in which the maker says that he came away from the filming believing it fully but after going over his footage there was a few discrepancies and coincidences. After watching this it does seem to me that the advert is fabrication.

Check it out, its worth watching www.carlossoto.com but watch the volvo version first as it makes it more interesting!
Volvo ad - PoloGirl
I recieved an email from volvo yesterday with a link to
the documentary. Having seen the adverts and being intrigued I
watched the documentary. It all seemed very convincing and I
didn't think much more of it.


then closed the web page. When I did this I
got a pop up (and I have a pop up blocker)
that said something along the lines of 'The volvo advert is
not true and I have proof'. I clicked on this
and it was a link to the documentary makers website

After watching this it does seem to me that the
advert is fabrication.


Yes, the documentary is fake, but the second website is also made by Volvo. That's what I was trying to explain in my earlier, rather garbled, post.

Volvo ad - Mark (RLBS)
Volvo are in the business of selling cars; however part of that is brand recognition. And that's what this type of advertising achieves.
Volvo ad - zackem36
Who doesn't know what a volvo is?

I am wondering do these campaigns work? Yes, they get people talking about a car, but does this actually make people want to buy the car or are advertisers just throwing their money out the window?

Is anyone's opinion really changed by these campaigns?
Volvo ad - Nsar
Why do you think that advertising exists and has done for hundreds of years? Why do you think that all those company logos you can see blinking away at you on this page are there?Because advertising works!
Volvo ad - Mapmaker
> Because advertising works.

Or at least because advertising agencies tell their clients that it works. Quite a different thing! Whilst BMW continue to advertise, Mercedes cannot not. et cetera!
Volvo ad - Nsar
>>Or at least because advertising agencies tell their clients that it works

and the boards of all the hundreds of thousands of organisations that advertise simply nod and reach for the cheque book without ever once questioning whether they are getting value for money....if only it were that simple
Volvo ad - zackem36
I believe that there is research to support the traditional methods of advertising, however, this is the first I have heard of viral marketing and I was wondering if any one had been effected by this particular volvo campaign, or if this was merely an advertiser's pipe dream?
Volvo ad - patently
And exactly which pipe would that be?
Volvo ad - Garethj
Viral marketing (although they probably didn't have the name for it back then) was around in the 1960s when Doyle Dane Bernbach were making ads for Volkswagen in the US. Each new advertisment, whether in print or on TV was talked about and eagerly awaited - and not just by advertising people.

Their radical approach was to tell the truth and concentrate on the product, something that US car advertising had never done!

Gareth
Volvo ad - Altea Ego
Or at least because advertising agencies tell their clients that it
works. Quite a different thing!


Do you seriously think that a company who is spending up to 2% of its gross income (clue; thats a lot of money) on advertising does not check they get results? They do really clever technical things like
1/ Check how much they sold before the add
2/ Check how much they sold after the add.

Re the Volvo adds

This is not advertising guys, this is marketing. Marketing is all about building brand image, building a market, generating interest and demand, etc etc. Take Sunny D (not the datsun, the drink) A marketing scam that built a product to a huge volume.

So Volvo are
1: Announcing they have a new car in a very subtle way
2: Generating curiosity
3: and dont forget there is a percentage of people who will think this story is true (because its on TV and it does not appear to be an add) and want to know whats so great about this car.

If they get curious people wandering into Volvo dealerships they have them on the hook, up to the salesman to get them gutted, battered and served up with chips.

My favourite was Ford with the Capri. Basically man buys Capri, has good time, gets girl to bed. "The car you always promised yourself". Great *Marketing*

You need to read Murray Walkers autobiography. He was an add agency man before he became famous. Great book.
Volvo ad - Motorhead
Well if its all marketing then that second film (www.carlossoto.com/current.htm) is a pretty damn elaborate was to get my attention. Its like a riddle within a riddle.

Great stuff - its kept me thinking thats for sure.

Volvo ad - J Bonington Jagworth
"Because advertising works!"

Unless, of course, it's for something unhealthy, like tobacco or junk food, when suddenly its only purpose is to redistribute market share!

I would say that Volvo's entry of estate cars in the Touring Car races did them far more good than any print or TV advertising, but then it probably didn't have much impact on those with less interest in motorsport. Wonder why they've never gone rallying..?
Volvo ad - BazzaBear {P}
Actually, didn't they used to contest the Paris-Dakar, way back when the vehicles involved used to actually be cars?
I certainly remember once reading that the 240 was thought of as a fantastic desert rally-er, indestructible.