The end of the Honest John website? - JJ56

I've read that VW will be closing Heycar sometime this month. Will this be the end of this great website?

cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/reports-suggest-us...7

The end of the Honest John website? - Xileno

I hope not, this place has been a hugely useful resource over many years and important to me. A place of relative peace and calm amongst a load of r****** forums, with many valuable contributors. One of the reasons I put my name forward for moderating was because Avant was clearly getting fed up with all the spam so I emailed him to see if I could help by working in the background. Then the unfortunate happened and the forum was left with no moderation at all. Unknown to me ORB had also offered to assist.

We don't know anymore that anyone else at the moment. Should we do so then we will share it, provided we are allowed to.

All we can do for now is plod on as usual and hope for the best, particularly for those who may lose their jobs.

Edited by Xileno on 06/05/2025 at 16:40

The end of the Honest John website? - FP

"All we can do for now is plod on as usual and hope for the best..."

Could I tactfully suggest a Plan B is developed, just in case, which would be an alternative host or website? (Which presumably would not have to be tied to one particular organisation, or even any.)

The end of the Honest John website? - misar

If you had just another forum in mind there is a plan B already. It was created long ago to mirror this one which was having a major issue with the forum software. Have not been there recently but it always seemed to have limited motoring discussion of interest.

The end of the Honest John website? - FP

"... there is a plan B already. It was created long ago to mirror this one which was having a major issue with the forum software."

Not really a Plan B, in the sense that it doesn't preserve the HJ forum. Though the place you allude to was indeed formed as an offshoot of the HJ Backroom, it has a very different feel and, as you say, the purely motoring stuff is relatively small - general discussion (often quite searching) relating to current affairs is much more prominent.

I am hoping that, if it becomes necessary, the whole HJBR can move, with its present moderators, somewhere else and function as before. In particular, the old posts in Technical are a great resource.

The end of the Honest John website? - focussed
TerryW has gone very quiet !!
The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.

If it is the end then I'll miss my daily dose of Slo and GB.

I don't miss the amount of spam the mods have to deal with.

But just in case... It's been a great discussion forum and I have learned a lot.

Till then carry on posting.

The end of the Honest John website? - paul 1963

I sincerely hope the end isn't in sight, been a member for a few years now and a lurker for many more before that.

Will we get any warning if it does go? Be a shame to lose the knowledge base that has been built up.....

The end of the Honest John website? - Maxime.

Mostly a lurker but I must say that it is and has been quite a good forum and the mods seem to keep things in order and even the little "tiffs" occasionally are quite polite.

Be sad if it ends.

The end of the Honest John website? - Brit_in_Germany

I recall that Heycar acquired the site following an insolvency sale. I would have thought that if the site has a business value, the site will be sold again as part of the disposal of assets.

The end of the Honest John website? - Manatee

If you had just another forum in mind there is a plan B already. It was created long ago to mirror this one which was having a major issue with the forum software. Have not been there recently but it always seemed to have limited motoring discussion of interest.

I visit and occasionally contribute to both. It's like any club, it depends on member participation. Forums are in decline generally.

The 'other place' would welcome new members. There's an overlap of membership anyway, and the discussions that happen here could be taken there if the worst should happen. It's generally quite good humoured now and has been for some years.


The end of the Honest John website? - Engineer Andy

I hope not, this place has been a hugely useful resource over many years and important to me. A place of relative peace and calm amongst a load of r****** forums, with many valuable contributors. One of the reasons I put my name forward for moderating was because Avant was clearly getting fed up with all the spam so I emailed him to see if I could help by working in the background. Then the unfortunate happened and the forum was left with no moderation at all. Unknown to me ORB had also offered to assist.

We don't know anymore that anyone else at the moment. Should we do so then we will share it, provided we are allowed to.

All we can do for now is plod on as usual and hope for the best, particularly for those who may lose their jobs.

I take it that there's been no news as yet? I was just wondering as its been rather quiet on this for a week now.

The end of the Honest John website? - Xileno

No news yet apart from the possibility of some this month. We are being encouraged to carry on as normal.

We will update the forum when we hear anything further provided we are cleared by the Editor to do so.

The end of the Honest John website? - SLO76
Be sad to see it away. Been informative and good fun coming on here for my daily dose of car chat.
The end of the Honest John website? - misar
Be sad to see it away. Been informative and good fun coming on here for my daily dose of car chat.

If HJ closes and most of the regulars move across to the other forum it should be almost business as usual. The structure is similar, hardly surprising as its software is by the outfit that originally ran this forum.

The end of the Honest John website? - FP

"If HJ closes and most of the regulars move across to the other forum it should be almost business as usual."

I doubt that very much. For purely motoring and technical issues, maybe.

But the views of some people here on controversial issues would be chewed up and spat out over there.

As I implied above, the two forums may have a common heritage, but after many years they have gone in different directions. I was on HJ long before the split and have continued to read and post on both forums.

The end of the Honest John website? - KB.

"If HJ closes and most of the regulars move across to the other forum it should be almost business as usual."

I doubt that very much. For purely motoring and technical issues, maybe.

But the views of some people here on controversial issues would be chewed up and spat out over there.

As I implied above, the two forums may have a common heritage, but after many years they have gone in different directions. I was on HJ long before the split and have continued to read and post on both forums.

There's ZERO chance of me going over there. Absolutely ZERO.

They wouldn't want me and I wouldn't want to be there.

Edited by KB. on 07/05/2025 at 10:52

The end of the Honest John website? - FP

"There's ZERO chance of me going over there. Absolutely ZERO."

That's funny. There's a poster over there called Zero.

The end of the Honest John website? - paul 1963

Are we allowed to know the name of the other place?

The end of the Honest John website? - KB.

I can't imagine why not.

c*******

The end of the Honest John website? - KB.

But seeing as it's automatically been struck out then presumably it's a secret.

The end of the Honest John website? - FP

If you do a Google search for "uk motoring forum foreplay" it comes up pretty quickly. (Its name is a pun on the word "foreplay".)

The end of the Honest John website? - Xileno

As long as this thread doesn't descend into attacking the 'other place' or its members then we will let it run. The two forums share the same DNA but have evolved in different directions over the last fifteen years. Their non-motoring section is busier than ours; but our Motoring and Technical sections are busier. Some contributors post on both forums.

We will write to the Editor in a week or so to ask if there is any further info available. They may not know yet of course. Also we need to be mindful that there may be job losses so the Backroom is probably not their highest priority at the moment.

The end of the Honest John website? - misar

Interestingly the other place has no such aversion to mentioning this site. A quick search turned up 637 such posts, often with URLs to something relevant on here.

Despite the paranoia above I would have no problem with moving over if other refugees provide similar relevant content to their posts on here. That site has been stable for 15 years. If it comes to it I await with interest any alternative the naysayers manage to come up with. I have an account on PistonHeads but they have so many narrow sub-forums that finding interesting threads is laborious.

The end of the Honest John website? - Xileno

"Interestingly the other place has no such aversion to mentioning this site. A quick search turned up 637 such posts, often with URLs to something relevant on here."

Probably more an issue of the past than now, to be honest. When the rival forum was set up, the concern was that HJ would lose website 'hits', hence impacting ad revenue. The ads are what pays for the Backroom. That combined with inevitable politics meant that there was a ban on mentioning the 'other place'. The rival website was added to the swear filter so it comes up as asterisks. Moderators can add entries to the swear filter but can't remove them, only IT can do that.

I suspect the marginal cost to Khoosys of hosting the rival was minimal as all the infrastructure was already in place. Ad revenue has always been essential to HJ, hence the sometimes firm moderation in the past of criticising companies and not biting the hand that feeds. Like so many things though, a balance has to be struck.

The end of the Honest John website? - Adampr

I didn't even know that other place existed. I always assumed people were talking about pistonheads when 'the other place' was mentioned.

Anyway, I won't be going there is this forum closes. Nothing against it, but I am mostly here now just for the entertainment of each character. I'm not going to start all over again.

The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.

Just tried to log on.. had to create a new account and it will be validated before i can post.

The end of the Honest John website? - Simoncelli58

I signed up yesterday, validated, but still not yet enabled?

When I went to look around, the first thing I saw was an advertisement for a full size 'Japanese Schoolgirl Doll'.

From Temu, I think.

How the hell do they get away with that?

Probably not the site for me!

Edited by Simoncelli58 on 09/05/2025 at 09:10

The end of the Honest John website? - Bromptonaut

I signed up yesterday, validated, but still not yet enabled?

When I went to look around, the first thing I saw was an advertisement for a full size 'Japanese Schoolgirl Doll'.

From Temu, I think.

How the hell do they get away with that?

I suspect they simply sell the advertising space to an outfit that provides a feed of ads.

I use adblock software as, for all I want to support the site, I'm not prepared to be bombarded with ads for mail order brides or women selling sexual favours.

The end of the Honest John website? - Marlin1

I've had a quick look at the other site and it's interesting to see that they have a post about this site potentially closing and have nicely expressed the wish that they hope it doesn't.

The end of the Honest John website? - Chris M

Orb's sign up has been noted on the other place with bunting going up to celebrate the acquisition.

As has been noted, it's very different to here with a couple of dozen active members who discuss most things except motoring. It got very toxic over Brexit but those that remain, seem to rub along in a friendly manner.

The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.

Orb's sign up has been noted on the other place with bunting going up to celebrate the acquisition.

Joined out of curiosity ....Still unvalidated but no rush.

Format of posts is a bit different too although site seems uncluttered.

While HJ is till functional (and myself too) I'll stick around here.

The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.

Still not validated but a lesson for the HJ site and sure they have less spam.

Edited by Orb>>. on 10/05/2025 at 08:27

The end of the Honest John website? - Engineer Andy

Orb's sign up has been noted on the other place with bunting going up to celebrate the acquisition.

As has been noted, it's very different to here with a couple of dozen active members who discuss most things except motoring. It got very toxic over Brexit but those that remain, seem to rub along in a friendly manner.

I've popped in unofficially now and then and it mainly looks like a politics and 'current affairs' forum and not really for those of a 'conservative' persuasion. Plus it has no database of info as we do here to draw on as well as our own knowledge and experience.

Not my cup-of-tea.

The end of the Honest John website? - edlithgow

Plus it has no database of info as we do here to draw on as well as our own knowledge and experience.

Not sure what this refers to. I'd guess you might mean the past posts, which sort of form a "database"since its searchable, though not structured, but surely any forum will have that, unless they delete old posts to save storage?.

Or is there some other facility I'm not aware of?

That'd be embarrassing, but not unbelievable

The end of the Honest John website? - Engineer Andy

Plus it has no database of info as we do here to draw on as well as our own knowledge and experience.

Not sure what this refers to. I'd guess you might mean the past posts, which sort of form a "database"since its searchable, though not structured, but surely any forum will have that, unless they delete old posts to save storage?.

Or is there some other facility I'm not aware of?

That'd be embarrassing, but not unbelievable

Database of car information - the Reviews section with its data per model, history, Good and Bad, plus the News section, car advice from the HJ team and REAL MPG sections. I'm sure if advice was given, often The Other Place users may (as well as personal knowledge pertaining to a question) refer to the HJ database of information or other commercial websites like 'The Nosey Ones'.

I've noticed that an increasing number of independent forums for car owners are also closing, as happened with the one for Mazda3 owners I and one or two Backroomers were a member of until last year. The number of chats / queries had reduced significantly over the previous 5 years.

I suspect, like is happening across the Internet, many people cannot afford to spare the money and time to keep them going, and besides, the 'forum' and 'self-help' type stuff is going out of fashion, especially with the young and where more and more things these days are like kitchen white goods - out of reach from self-maintenance because they are increasingly made up of complex electronics and you cannot just change out one tiny sub-component at a low cost.

And besides, the average age of the Backroomer is getting older and older, which means eventually there'll be not enough left to make it viable (similar with C4P and others). Young people ar more concerned with other things.

We may have to face reality that the world is changing, not necessarily for the better from our own standpoint. What we do about it, well...

The end of the Honest John website? - edlithgow

I didn't even know that other place existed. I always assumed people were talking about pistonheads when 'the other place' was mentioned.

I thought it was The House Of Lords

The end of the Honest John website? - mord

That would be a terrible shame indeed. Been lurking these parts for a fairly long time now (since circa 2007 when I got my first car) and have learned a lot over that time from the contributions in the forums here. Here’s hoping the backroom can be spared for generations to come.

The end of the Honest John website? - bathtub tom

There could be a conflict of initials if BBD joins t'other side, as there's one over there already (I suspect they're not one and the same) and they post on quite different subjects!

The end of the Honest John website? - expat

I would be sad to see this forum close. I have been on here at least 20 years and have learned a lot. I have noticed that the forum is quieter these days than it used to be and I also think that the average age of posters has risen quite a bit. Not that I can talk being 78 myself.

The end of the Honest John website? - badbusdriver

There could be a conflict of initials if BBD joins t'other side, as there's one over there already (I suspect they're not one and the same) and they post on quite different subjects!

TBH, I'm still not sure of what this "other" forum is everyone else seems familiar with!

The end of the Honest John website? - bathtub tom

TBH, I'm still not sure of what this "other" forum is everyone else seems familiar with!

Sorry, can't tell you, the swear filter blocks it!

c*a*r*4*p*l*a*y

Edited by bathtub tom on 08/05/2025 at 09:28

The end of the Honest John website? - badbusdriver

TBH, I'm still not sure of what this "other" forum is everyone else seems familiar with!

Sorry, can't tell you, the swear filter blocks it!

c*a*r*4*p*l*a*y

Ah, gotcha!

(never heard of it!)

Edited by badbusdriver on 08/05/2025 at 09:52

The end of the Honest John website? - Bromptonaut

Was in here from early on, fist post c2000 I think.

Moved over to 'the other place' when it started while HJ's site got screwed up by an IT re-jug.

Post in both but regard c 4 p more as a virtual pub. I think there are people there who I've been engaging with for 20+ years. As above it got quite toxic over Brexit and people of both leave and remain persuasions baled out.

Mods defenestrated a couple of people for persitent and egregious breaches of forum etiquette. One was Pat, female lorry driver and driver trainer, who is now deceased. The other was Mark from, variously Brazil, Chile and 'RBLS' who could alternate between being the most helpful and friendly person on earth to a gross bully. He picked on me a bit as I'm not afraid to speak from a lefty perspective.

There was another site with a title playing on Grumpy Old men but that seems dormant now. For reasons I cannot ascertain people who'd rubbed along happily for years fell out.

The end of the Honest John website? - nailit

I've only been a lurker but I too wouldn't want the forum to cease, I joined around 1999/2000 ?. Recognise many user names and I'm a Septugenarian too!

Just registered over the other place too, just in case.

Don't know why my font has suddenly grown in bold?

Typing on the mobile doesn't help.

Must be me. :-)

Ps, is it really 15 years since HJ left the site?

Edited by nailit on 08/05/2025 at 19:15

The end of the Honest John website? - Xileno

HJ left in early 2020 when the site went in to Administration and subsequently bought by Heycar.

The end of the Honest John website? - Falkirk Bairn

HJ in the Saturday Telegraph was a must read. However his page was downsized and then he was dropped when the staff & editorial changed.

HJ had more worthy news & comment in a few column inches compared to the current crop of writers. Every few weeks there is an article that catches my eye but most weeks it recycled r****** about 30/40 year old cars and there are only 10 or 12 cars left in the UK

If it is not old cars it's EVs which I have no interest in - never interested in them far less buying one.

I have 3 sons, 10 cars between them (1 son with 4 and 2 sons with 3) Only 1 EV ever bought (and traded in at 18+ months)

The end of the Honest John website? - Maxime.

I sincerely hope this doesn't become a self fulfilling thing.

I took a look on the "other site" but the layout when clicking on a topic is weird (to me and hubby)

I'll give it a miss for now.

The end of the Honest John website? - bathtub tom

I took a look on the "other site" but the layout when clicking on a topic is weird (to me and hubby)

There's an option in settings to change between 'flat view' and 'topic view'.

The end of the Honest John website? - misar

The same option is at the top of each thread, just under the thread author. Click View Threaded or View Flat to toggle it.

The end of the Honest John website? - johncyprus

I’ve been a lurker and occasional contributor since around 2002 and I’d miss this site terribly and usually look in every couple of days or so, have done for years. There have been some wonderful writers, remember Pugugly, the GWrowler and DVD?
The various contributors have influenced my choice of car over the years and in 2004 I bought a Nissan Maxima 3.0 SE+ after reading a contributor ( was it Aprilia or similar? ) enthuse about it, all the way up to 2024 when SLO’s write up of his experiences with the brilliant Nissan Leaf 40 led me to buying one. Hopefully all will be well but if something happens maybe a Plan B; if we all migrate to the same site the community can be preserved.

Edited by johncyprus on 11/05/2025 at 05:38

The end of the Honest John website? - Bromptonaut

Pugly is still active in 'the other place' but has changed his 'handle' to RP.

The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.

5days and counting...Not validated, perhaps they don't want me.

Never mind.

The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.

Now 6 days and counting...Not validated, perhaps they don't want me.

Never mind.

The end of the Honest John website? - Big John

5days and counting...Not validated, perhaps they don't want me.

Never mind.

I think something is broken re the validation process. I messaged in to report it - my login sorted now. webmaster@........

Edited by Big John on 12/05/2025 at 13:09

The end of the Honest John website? - Robert J.

If you go back far enough I’m pretty sure Mark used to be one of the original moderators here. Not the kind of bloke I would want to get on the wrong side of.

I too have benefited enormously from the advice given on this site over many years and would be so sorry to see it go. Unfortunately my lack of motoring knowledge means I have never been able to offer much of a contribution myself whilst benefiting so much from the advice of others, so thank you all.

I have occasionally looked at the other place but find the motoring content here much more interesting. They seem to have a more active non-motoring section which can be hostile to views which differ to the majority, and I can’t cope with confrontation very well so I stick with HJ.

The end of the Honest John website? - edlithgow


I have occasionally looked at the other place but find the motoring content here much more interesting. They seem to have a more active non-motoring section which can be hostile to views which differ to the majority, and I can’t cope with confrontation very well so I stick with HJ.

I quite like a bit of conf, so maybe I'd better stay out of it. I find transferring the dying bangernomics concept to boats is starting to get me in enough trouble

The end of the Honest John website? - edlithgow


I have occasionally looked at the other place but find the motoring content here much more interesting. They seem to have a more active non-motoring section which can be hostile to views which differ to the majority, and I can’t cope with confrontation very well so I stick with HJ.

I quite like a bit of conf, so maybe I'd better stay out of it. I find transferring the dying bangernomics concept to boats is starting to get me in enough trouble

Oh wait...seems the boaties have banned me, apparently permanently, for a pretty incredible (stated) reason.

Thats annoying, because that was my new thing,,no longer having a car

Might have to get into it IRL, offline and on water...in Scotland

Ooer

Comparing and contrasting,with this and other past bannings elsewhere, it behoves me to acknowledge the tolerance and balance of the moderators here, past and present, for my local survival to date.

Gents,you put the moderation back into moderation

Edited by edlithgow on 14/05/2025 at 00:41

The end of the Honest John website? - FP

Robert J. - it's a pretty fair summing-up.

The depth of knowledge here is impressive and I too am indebted to the members, past and present, of HJ/BR.

The other place, as I indicated above, can be confrontational and if anyone finds that a problem they can always ignore the threads concerned. I don't mind defending (or attacking) a point of view, but hate it when things get personal and unfortunately (as with most social media sites) many people can't tell the difference and are too ready to respond inappropriately. That happens here, too, from time to time. These days, however, I find it's a waste of time and energy to get too caught up with stuff like that.

I think you're right about Mark/NoFM2R being a moderator here in the BR at one point. Yes, he could be obnoxious and eventually he got on the wrong side of the mods in the other place. I was guilty of deliberately winding him up at one point and his reaction when he realised was amusing - to me, at least.

Edited by FP on 12/05/2025 at 13:34

The end of the Honest John website? - Xileno

List of moderators who've tried to keep the Backroom reasonably civilised:

Martyn

David Woollard?

Mark (RLBS)

Dynamic Dave

No Do$h

Hugo

Pugugly

Smokie

PoloGirl

rtj70

Oilrag

WellKnownSid

BorisTheSpider

Avant

ORB

Xileno

leaseman

We will send the Editor an email in the next day or so to see if there is any update concerning the HJ site.

The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.

List of moderators who've tried to keep the Backroom reasonably civilised:

And Thanks to all.

It wasn't the easiest task to do.

The end of the Honest John website? - bazza

I remember that particular member on the other site. He came over as extremely arrogant, antagonistic and unable to tolerate any opinions other than his own! I think a lot of folk left because of him. I wondered what had happened to him! I'm not on there at the moment as it became a bit like a pub where only locals frequent. I hope this site survives.

The end of the Honest John website? - Marlin1

I remember that particular member on the other site. He came over as extremely arrogant, antagonistic and unable to tolerate any opinions other than his own! I think a lot of folk left because of him. I wondered what had happened to him! I'm not on there at the moment as it became a bit like a pub where only locals frequent. I hope this site survives.

He was asked to leave.

The end of the Honest John website? - bathtub tom

I've noticed this site has become very slow lately. Terminal illness?

ORB. Did you ever manage to join t'other side?

The end of the Honest John website? - Big John

I've noticed this site has become very slow lately. Terminal illness?

It was incredibly slow this morning to the point of being unusable, just picked up a bit now.

The end of the Honest John website? - leaseman

I think that super-slow mode this morning may be down to a couple of scammers who had posted a multiplicity of times before I disabled them totally. Sorry.

The end of the Honest John website? - badbusdriver

I've noticed this site has become very slow lately. Terminal illness?

ORB. Did you ever manage to join t'other side?

I registered to join on Mon or Tues, still waiting for a validation link..................

;-)

The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.

I've noticed this site has become very slow lately. Terminal illness?

ORB. Did you ever manage to join t'other side?

I registered to join on Mon or Tues, still waiting for a validation link..................

;-)

No. 11 days ago today. If they can't be a***d.... No worries.

Other worries on my mind currently.

Edited by Orb>>. on 18/05/2025 at 11:25

The end of the Honest John website? - misar

No. 11 days ago today. If they can't be a***d.... No worries.

Other worries on my mind currently.

ORB, on asked on your behalf and they currently have a problem with registrations.

There is currently a problem when registering a new account, in that the verification link you're given doesn't work.

The URL is missing the letter 's' from it. If you change the http part to https, then it should work.

Also, I am not currently receiving emails informing that new accounts need to be enabled once they've been verified. This part of the process cuts down on spammers creating accounts and being able to post straight away.

Once you have verified your account, please email me at webmaster@c*******.com so that I am aware of it and can then enable your new account.

Please mention your username or email address, but DO NOT include your password (for GDPR reasons). Thanks.

The end of the Honest John website? - badbusdriver

There is currently a problem when registering a new account, in that the verification link you're given doesn't work.

The URL is missing the letter 's' from it. If you change the http part to https, then it should work.

One would need to receive a validation link for that instructions to be of any use!.

The end of the Honest John website? - Marlin1

There is currently a problem when registering a new account, in that the verification link you're given doesn't work.

The URL is missing the letter 's' from it. If you change the http part to https, then it should work.

One would need to receive a validation link for that instructions to be of any use!.

Have you checked your "spam" or "junk" folder.

Give it another go just in case the system had a screwup.

The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.

There is currently a problem when registering a new account, in that the verification link you're given doesn't work.

The URL is missing the letter 's' from it. If you change the http part to https, then it should work.

One would need to receive a validation link for that instructions to be of any use!.

Have you checked your "spam" or "junk" folde

Give it another go just in case the system had a screwup.

Spam/junk were checked but academic now as lost interest.

If HJ falls ( which I sincerely hope it doesn't ) it'll be the end of my forum postings.

HJ is now the only one I post on.

Edited by Orb>>. on 18/05/2025 at 17:22

The end of the Honest John website? - misar

The website seems very slow over the past few days. Has anyone else noticed this? If so could it be related to the Heycar closure?

The end of the Honest John website? - FP

"The website seems very slow over the past few days."

Not for me. Everything as normal here.

The end of the Honest John website? - Chris M

I too have found it slow, but it's been okay today. Maybe they've paid the leccy bill.

The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.

I too have found it slow, intermittently slow, currently slow @ 14.47 pm.

Running on Firefox with adblock. but fast on chrome with no adblock.

The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.

On firefox with adblock slow.

On chrome without adblock fast.

The end of the Honest John website? - Xileno

It was sluggish yesterday but today I'm finding it ok. It's probably a resource-hungry ad, IIRC HJ has no control over them, the ad space is controlled by an agency. But if it's stopping people using the site then I'm sure HJ can apply some pressure but there will be no IT support until Tuesday.

The end of the Honest John website? - expat

Extremely slow to log in today. Not too bad once I got into the Backroom. Firefox with Adblock and a custom hosts file that blocks thousands of ad sites and other undesirables.

The end of the Honest John website? - Andrew-T

It was sluggish yesterday but today I'm finding it ok.

Yes, noticeably sluggish yesterday, but better today, tho slow loggong in just now. I assumed that some server somewhere was undergoing weekend maintenance or something ?

The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.
Definitely weird earlier. now getting the diagonal stripes on the reply page too. Logged in on the android mobile and opened a topic and the replies cascaded as on the "other" forum. (where you can choose how it shows replies, )
The end of the Honest John website? - Engineer Andy

It was sluggish yesterday but today I'm finding it ok.

Yes, noticeably sluggish yesterday, but better today, tho slow loggong in just now. I assumed that some server somewhere was undergoing weekend maintenance or something ?

Same here - seems fine today.

The end of the Honest John website? - FP

Today it's awful.

Absolutely glacial on Android and PC.

The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.

better now than earlier. from firefox diagnostics something is running, maybe an ad in the background. I have adblock+ and quite solid privacy settings but no better on chrome or the microsoft browser/

The end of the Honest John website? - mcb100
Currently painfully slow on Safari on iPhone.
The end of the Honest John website? - Orb>>.

Fine today. Normal.

The end of the Honest John website? - Gibbo_Wirral

Incredibly slow on Chrome but fine on Firefox

The end of the Honest John website? - Engineer Andy

Incredibly slow on Chrome but fine on Firefox

Normally when there is an issue, it's the other way around. Adding the quote of your post above was not instant (as it should be), and I'm using Firefox (the legacy version for Win7/8 users that hasn't been updated for about a year or so). I'll add an edit below if my reply's upload was slower than usual or not.

[additional] Yes, the upload was slow (as was this coming up after clicking 'Edit', though I've seen worse before.

Edited by Engineer Andy on 10/06/2025 at 13:59