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Yes, and they're quite often fully paid up members of the 'Subsidise A Speed Camera Club' with special markings on their licences to prove it :)
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...and I am usually that man...
What's the problem? :-)
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When I used to be a courier I came across this all the time. I'd be asked "how long to get a package to London [from Manchester]?". When I said to allow 4-5 hours, the answer would always come that they had done it in three hours last week.
I eventually worked out what it was, by asking if that was door-to-door. People leaving Manchester started timing at the point they reached the M6 (often 45mins out of Manchester) and they stopped at the point they reached the bottom of the M1 (sometimes well over an hour from destination).
The most extreme example was someone in Liverpool telling me that Canary Wharf would take me 2.5 hours.
V
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Vin,
Absolutely correct. My brother runs a taxi firm and his clients often argue about how long a trip should take - particularly to Heathrow or Gatwick in rush hour.
"The most extreme example was someone in Liverpool telling me that Canary Wharf would take me 2.5 hours."
I have done Liverpool Street to Canary Wharf in under 2.5 hours!!
C
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Erlangen to Stoke, about 900 miles, took me 10 hours driving time (excluding the 45 min chunnel time) back in 97, in my Polo, setting off at 1500 hours.
It's possible to do the 202 door to door miles from Manchester ( 3 miles shy of M56) to Shepherds bush in 15 minutes, if you set off at 6am on a Saturday morning, and you can do Brighton Dome to Manchester in 3 hours 15, if you leave Brighton at 0030 hours.
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202 miles in 15 minutes???? Either there's a typo there or you're averaging over 800 miles per hour.
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Erlangen to Stoke, about 900 miles, took me 10 hours driving time (excluding the 45 min chunnel time) back in 97, in my Polo, setting off at 1500 hours.
900 miles in 10 hours?
I cannot not believe it! (shades of Victor Meldrew)
Seriously, how do you manage an average speed of 90mph from Stoke to Erlangen in a VW Polo?
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Quite. But don't forget that many cars' odometers overread the miles slightly (1 to 4%).
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Quite. But don't forget that many cars' odometers overread the miles slightly (1 to 4%).
If it were 4% out then that's 86.4mph.
Some driving.
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Polo would do 119 top speed.
and manchester to shep bush was 2hr 15 min
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"Erlangen to Stoke, about 900 miles, took me 10 hours driving time (excluding the 45 min chunnel time)"
Would that be the Erlangen near Nurnberg? If so you took a long detour for it to be 900 miles.
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The most extreme example was someone in Liverpool telling me that Canary Wharf would take me 2.5 hours. V
15 mins to airport
2 hours at airport and flight to City Airport
15 mins to Canary Wharf
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I set out for Utopia a few years back. Doesn't seem any nearer...
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"Erlangen to Stoke, about 900 miles, took me 10 hours driving time .. in my Polo"
Total Fiction.
The bit from the Channel to Stoke via M20, M25, M1, M6 probably took you longer! Averaging 90 mph?????? Come off it!
Or have I misread a joke?
By the way Vienna isn't even that far so you went a long way round!
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Oh and if you only allowed 45 mins for the Chunnel you are being wildly optimistic since minimum crossing time is 35 mins, then add on earlier arrival, customs, passport control, loading time, unloading etc, so knock off another half hour (at least)driving time and you did it in 8.5 hours. Now 8 and a half into 900 = 105.88 mph average speed. Does a Polo go that fast flat out?
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Brighton to Manchester 266 miles in 3hr 15 mins is approx 80 mph ave. Good to see you stick to speed limits and take a break occasionally. Me, for that distance I'd reckon on 5 hours (not counting fag and coffee stops - so probably about 7!
Sorry, but I think your post confirms the first posters (and others)points.
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Ah but he is a member of the IAM - see profile!
On reflection I think it is a wind up
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Why would I post exagerated claims in a forum so as to draw ridicule to myself?
These were journeys that I did over 8 years ago, when I was in my early 20\'s and was a lot more hot headed than I am now (cardew, I joined the IAM because I recognised I had many driving problems). I didn\'t stick to speed limits, and the car was going flat out at 119mph (indicated of course) for a lot of the journey. In the early hours the M20, M25, M1, M6 are not busy at all, so why doubt what I say? The times I quoted are minutes the wheels were rolling, discounting fuel and rest stops and the chunnel. I admit that I actually took it as a personal challenge to see how quickly I could do the journey.
My attitude to driving has changed over the past 8 years and I would never dream of doing the same again. My life is far more relaxed now.
Don\'t know why I am bothering to defend myself, given that I get the impression you all think I am a for thinking that the police should display tax discs.
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I did Glasgow to Wokingham (from M8 central Glasgow to my front door) in 4h 51 a few weekends back. Av speed of 83 on the Vx trip display. One stop for fuel and two at lights, on the same roundabout. Fags taken on the move, nothing drunk or eaten during the whole journey. Speed NEVER in 3 figures. Motorway virtually all the way, obviously no hold ups whatsoever (didn't use the new toll either).
These things are possible...
And I would not consider that at any point I drove dangerously or aggresively...just lucky with a very quiet road all the way...
I flew the same trip the following weekend, and the door to door time was about the same...
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I can vouch for pdc who says the M20 M25 and M1 are quiet at night. I have travelled Maidstone to Nottingham in a very short period of time late at night.
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Anyone read the papers today about the mother who bragged she could do 18 miles in 20 minutes? Killed her 12 yr old daughter and her daughter's best friend.
Yes I speed more than I should and I don't want to pick a fight with anyone, but this thread doesn't feel right.
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Anyone read the papers today about the mother who bragged she could do 18 miles in 20 minutes? Killed her 12 yr old daughter and her daughter's best friend. Yes I speed more than I should and I don't want to pick a fight with anyone, but this thread doesn't feel right.
Bit of philosophy from the mother-in-law, which SWMBO is always quoting at me:
"Better late in this life than early in the next."
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Nick
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This thread is an indication of why speed cameras will not solve the/any problem.
For as long as speeding is seen as cool then people will find a way to do it.
And don't even begin to tell me that 119mph in a polo on public roads is safe or even close to it.
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And don't even begin to tell me that 119mph in a polo on public roads is safe or even close to it.
When I was a kid I would do all sorts of things, without any thought of the danger and consequences. I would jump off high walls, out of trees, swing on rope swings over fire, jump over ramps on my BMX bike, play chicken on the railway, and so on.
As I have got older my awareness of danger, responsibility, consequence has changed beyond recognition. As a new driver in my early 20's 119 mph in a Polo seemed fine. I was young, single and invincible. Now I am 30, no longer single, and running my own business I wouldn't consider that sustained speed in any car.
We get wiser with age I suppose. I guess that's why insurance companies hammer young first time drivers like they do. With each day passing I realise that I am turning into my mum, that everything she ever said to spoil my fun was right, and that one day I may be saying the same words to my offspring that she said to me. Gone are my Radio 1 days, and now it's Today on the way to work, and PM on the way home!
But it is possible to cover stupid distances in riduculous times, given quiet conditions on the road.
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"Received NIP back in July last year for doing 45mph in a 40 limit. Was caught by mobile camera. Completed the NIP but didn't sign it. A few weeks later I received another NIP with an accompanying letter explaining that it was against the law not to sign the form and that I was liable to prosecution for not doing so. I wrote a letter asking them to quote said law, and have heard nothing back almost 8 months down the line."
PDC 9th Feb 2004
"As I have got older my awareness of danger, responsibility, consequence has changed beyond recognition."
PDC 10th Feb 2004
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"Received NIP back in July last year for doing 45mph in a 40 limit. Was caught by mobile camera. Completed the NIP but didn't sign it. A few weeks later I received another NIP with an accompanying letter explaining that it was against the law not to sign the form and that I was liable to prosecution for not doing so. I wrote a letter asking them to quote said law, and have heard nothing back almost 8 months down the line." PDC 9th Feb 2004 "As I have got older my awareness of danger, responsibility, consequence has changed beyond recognition." PDC 10th Feb 2004
5 mph over a limit, on a dual carriage way, with barriers each side preventing public access to the road is not, in my opinion, dangerous, or irresponsible. So shove it RF.
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Apologies for the shove it comment RF. Needed to vent off steam at your posting. Would you mind explaining, maybe via private email, why you decided to make that post, if not to have a go at me?
As I have posted several times over the year I have been frequenting this forum, I used to be a bit of a hot head driver. I recognised my faults and made an attempt to do something about them by joining the IAM. That doesn't mean that I will stick to posted limits though. Many other people here also argue that limits on some roads are ridiculously low. 5 mph over a limit and you criticise me. You could probably do 80 down that stretch as there is a barrier to stop pedestrians from getting to the road, and a 10 foot (minimum) wide grass central reservation.
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There's a dead straight main road I go down in east London which has a railway on one side and a reservoir on the other. Effectively a tunnel without a roof and a 30 mph limit.
Good money-earning spot for the Authorities, though.
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No problem with the "shove it" PDC, not having a go either, it was very TIC, just ammused me that you had 1 post saying you got knicked for speeding and a post one day later saying you no longer do that. Thought you might see the funny side. Made me giggle anway (and not in a nasty way)
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I wasn't particularly pointing at you, pdc. Its just that the polo speed stuck in my mind when I wanted an example.
I've done worse. Not that I'm proud of it.
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I'm not sure that anybody has said that 199 mph (or whatever) in a Polo is cool, safe, interesting or fun (the latter might be if you wear ear plugs).
But in this life, life is too short to spend a long time in a tin can with just yourself for company. (Though to travel hopefully may be better than to arrive.) That's why people speed. People speed because they want to be somewhere else, other than in their tin boxes. Maybe the more car obsessed readers of this forum love being in their tin boxes in a stationary jam... but I doubt it!
The poor chap did it as a 'personal challenge' whilst a lot younger - leave him alone as he's now repented! Some of us were reading for degrees in ridiculously complex subjects for our personal challenges at that age - he probably was too - but in retrospect was that cool, safe, interesting or fun?
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If there had been a camera on that road they could have had sixty quid off her as well (wouldn't have stopped the accident though, she was simply exceeding her capabilities).
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