Hugo,
It just can't be avoided....so often you get caught in the "profile" of the vehicle you use.
Here you would be refused access to our tip and if you ever had reason to cruise around the village/farmland roads area looking for somewhere (however legit) we'd all be taking your number...and accidentally having the tractor blocking your return path so we could ID you and get a chance to "chat".
Reason....obvious really but so much of the pre-theft "surveys" and then the actual theft are carried out by folks in un-lettered vans.
As one old boy down the (dead end) drove says...."If I see um in a van mate I pulls the tractor and trailer out to stop um comming back past till I've had a word....no reason to be going about with an empty van looking down other folks drives is there?".
And broadly speaking he's right.
As you have so many cars perhaps you'll have to restrict the van's outings to business!
How do you find insurance. I've run vans privately in the past and had trouble from some insurance firms who are dead against such use.
M.M
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"How do you find insurance. I've run vans privately in the past and had trouble from some insurance firms who are dead against such use."
Commercial Vehicle Direct.
I think they've got a website poss something like www.cvd.co.uk.
PU - I don't carry out property renovations for a living or profit. I am currently renovating my own property. The one I finished recently is now rented out.
My own house has a timescale of about 3 to 4 years to finish and A van was considered to be the best option to avoid shortening the lives of perfectly good cars and the extra payload.
I realised this would be a good move when I went to collect a load of floor tiles in my Xantia. Only when I got home did I realise the rear suspension had not actually managed to go up at all throughout the whole journey. Fortunately - no lasting damage.
In general - I don't mind being stopped and questioned by concerned folk wherever I go. That's the kind of approach that will stop exploitation, theft etc and I'm all for it. MM your friend in the trator would most likely receive a warm reception from me provided he was polite and explained his concerns.
What gets up my nose is when, despite the fact that you explain that this vehicle may as well be a Sierra Estate for all the reasons I have it, they seem to be inflexable in their atitude. I even offered one chap in a tip to show him my insurance certificate to prove private use. Although he was understanding, he has rules to enforce regarding quantity tipped and vans are an obvious target, despite the fact that I take a lot of trouble to sort my waste prior to and during tipping, and tip less that many car drivers.
I know some tips operate a free permit system, whereby you register your van with them and are allowed so many visits a year. One or two more are allowed on discretion. I think this is the fairest way I have come across to deal with this problem yet. Cars are still waived through regardless though.
The moral of the story is, if you get into property renovation, buy an old Renault 21 estate for £100 fit a towbar and drag a large twin axle trailer. You'll never need to fork out for rubbish removal.
Hugo
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Sorry,
Made a presumption....bad ! I have had the same problem having recemlty loaded the Defender with rubble from the garden. It's all to do with landfill tax.
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>>MM your friend in the tractor would most likely receive a warm reception from me provided he was polite and explained his concerns.
You'll be pleased to know he's quite fair Hugo. We let some new friends use our "place" and they went down in a smart vehicle usually associated with sensible wealthy folks....he still *got* them!
Our local tip is one of the most tightly managed I know. Everything gets sorted and they have the most amazing stock of sorted wheel trims/bikes/computers/doors/rabbit hutches/patio sets/lawn mowers etc.
They have "do not" notices everywhere and are quite picky about who is tipping and what they tip. Absolutely no car parts...ever!
Recently on a quiet weekday I was dumping some stuff and the guy who runs it was looking miserable. Knowing what he's like I shouted across "How are things mate, anything decent today?"
Without a trace of humour he calls back "No it's been all rubbish".
M.M
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Sorry, Made a presumption....bad !
Glad to hear the legal profession hasn't waivered in its careful analysis of the facts :)
H
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Hugo round our way twin-axle trailers are deemed commercial,a definite no no. You are even liable to get stopped in a private car if they have seen a lot of you on their video.
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Well, the tipping Police haven't arrived my way yet!
Maybe I should consider myself lucky, with the amount I have tipped I should have been sent into exile years ago!
H
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My Mastro van, fully sigwritten with our business name & garage address, loaded with old kitchen floor, refused entry at our local tip, as 'they don't take builders rubble'!!
So try the Luton tip, when I'm over that way, can't even enter the place in a signwritten van, of ANY type!!
Eventually the floor went in the wheely bin week by week!
You can see why the lay-bys & fields are full of trash!!
VB
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VB Have you tried a well folded £5 note as a permit to tip. Works well down this part of the woods.:-)
Happy Motoring Phil I
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VB - agree entirely. I used to be a mobile DJ and some of my friends and colleagues could only afford the one vehicle. Of course it was going to be a van so that they could transport their equipment to gigs.
Quite a few mates attempted to take genuine household detritus (great word, don't you think?) to the local tip only to be told that as they had a van they were clearly trade and so had to pay a premium.
Guess where the rubbish ended up?
Not everyone can afford to buy a 'normal' vehicle specifically to take rubbish to the tip and until councils recognise this, fly-tipping will be as prevalent as it always has been.
Hugo - we can only send you a postcard if you give us an address to send it too ;-)
Cheers
Rob
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"Hugo - we can only send you a postcard if you give us an address to send it too ;-)"
The BR are my witnesses
Mark's got it, I've asked him to forward it to you.
H
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