I checked on the MOT status of the older ones and both 2013 and 2015 have zero advisories against them.

KIa customer service is good, uk based. and the kiaownersclub forum is a useful place.

I'm there as littlebluerio...

The "Real MPG" section of this site shows the Hybrid Rav4 doing about 50mpg, and the 1.6 Diesel Sportage doing somewhere between 45 and 50 so I suspect fuel costs would be fairly similar.

One thing to keep in mind is that a 2020 Sportage will be almost the last of the previous model, whereas a 2020 Rav4 will be almost the first of the new model. On that basis the Rav4 will look "new" for longer. Kia also seem to dramatically change the design of their cars with every model update, which makes the older one look more out of date than a previous generation Audi for example. The current model Sportage is pretty ugly though (and the Tucson even worse!) so I wouldn't pay more to get the current generation Kia.

Driving a CVT hybrid is very different to a diesel with a manual gearbox. Some people like them, but others really don't get on with them. I'd suggest doing a decent test drive in both before deciding.

Make sure the dealer provides a stamped service history and don't forget the servicing regime to maintain that Kia Warranty

What spec are you looking at, 2, 3, o4 4 or one of the specials?

As an aside, I liked the driving position and the controls when I had my sportage, but that was a " 1" and had very sensible tyres.

Zero recorded faults in my ownership. Dealer here, Underwoods on top of their game for servicing, altogether a positive experience, but then I bought an uncomfoortable Stonic (another thread on that)

I went for a Ssangyong Korando as I didn't want the outgoing model, and when I did change, the other reason was that only hybrids in any form were available at silly prices.

I think the new Sportage is ugly, but others will like it.

Performance of the diesel is fine for the Sportage.

Do keep us updated.

The Toyota has the perception of being more reliable. If it is a manual car I would go for the Kia and save the money. To me the current cabin of the RAV4 is a little on the dingy side.

The Toyota may have a 5 year warranty or 3 year warranty, depending on when it was registered.

Toyota run an offer where if you get the car serviced by them, the warranty is extended by a further year up to 10 years /100,000 miles. They could withdraw this offer at any time.

Edited by Zippy123 on 06/04/2022 at 11:18

Neither are ideal for efficient economical motoring due to the SUV disadvantages but I would take the Toyota, simply on the basis that now is not a particularly good time to invest in a diesel if you can avoid it. There is talk of a European diesel shortage and pump prices rising far higher than petrol, the supply situation is volatile and European governments are desperate to reduce diesel dependence for geopolitical reasons. Hence I would go with petrol hybrid. The current price premium of about 14 pence a litre will save you about £200 a year too, like for like at 50mpg. Toyota aftercare is second to none and I don't think you can go wrong with a dealer sourced RAV 4.

Well done, tell us how you get on with it. and also the one you bought, spec-wise.

If you can, get a service package for it, worth it for the savings..or at least the ist service free, but when I bought the venga a few years back, the service package had to be purchased before the service was due.

Happy Motoring.