Love your left field choices for cars. I had new found respect for you when I realised you had a Chevrolet Epica, a very interesting car, an unusual straight 6 2.0 engine if I recall correctly?
That straight 6 was designed for Daewoo by Porsche, long stroke, narrow bore to enable it to fit cross-wise - not sure about the UK, but 4-cylinder GM Ecotec petrol engines were also available as well as the ubiquitous VM Motori 2 litre diesel.
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Love your left field choices for cars. I had new found respect for you when I realised you had a Chevrolet Epica, a very interesting car, an unusual straight 6 2.0 engine if I recall correctly?
That straight 6 was designed for Daewoo by Porsche, long stroke, narrow bore to enable it to fit cross-wise - not sure about the UK, but 4-cylinder GM Ecotec petrol engines were also available as well as the ubiquitous VM Motori 2 litre diesel.
Yes the transverse straight six was available, but the Epica I had was the 2.o diesel as in the Captiva and Vauxhall Antara.
It went like greased lightning too, and was pretty economical with a light foot.
the last MOT it passed had a lot of advisories in Oct 2019. mot expired 2020
my 2012 review..
www.honestjohn.co.uk/owner-reviews/chevrolet/epica...d
The 1.5 turbo petrol in the Korando is a derivation of the 1.5 litre GM small gasoline engine also used in the MG ZS 2017 (non turbo) and the MG HS 2020 1.5 turbo, but reading the specifications of the two turbo engines, they have gone down different routes, although power is almost identical.
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It's so fascinating to me that a Daewoo, rebadged as a Chevrolet and then sold in the UK features an engine designed by Porsche! And a straight 6 mounted transversely!!
As it happens, one is for sale and if you scroll through the photos, you will see the engine has 6 markings on the engine cover and is 24 valve, so the inline 6 was definitely an option in the UK, assuming it's a UK car:
www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111199757290?p...1
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It's so fascinating to me that a Daewoo, rebadged as a Chevrolet and then sold in the UK features an engine designed by Porsche! And a straight 6 mounted transversely!!
As it happens, one is for sale and if you scroll through the photos, you will see the engine has 6 markings on the engine cover and is 24 valve, so the inline 6 was definitely an option in the UK, assuming it's a UK car:
www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111199757290?p...1
Many famous car companies have a design/consultancy service parallel with their car development business - Porsche have designed several engines for external companies including SEAT before VW Group bought them - and several brands have used Lotus to fine tune their suspensions.
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It's so fascinating to me that a Daewoo, rebadged as a Chevrolet and then sold in the UK features an engine designed by Porsche! And a straight 6 mounted transversely!!
As it happens, one is for sale and if you scroll through the photos, you will see the engine has 6 markings on the engine cover and is 24 valve, so the inline 6 was definitely an option in the UK, assuming it's a UK car:
www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111199757290?p...1
Many famous car companies have a design/consultancy service parallel with their car development business - Porsche have designed several engines for external companies including SEAT before VW Group bought them - and several brands have used Lotus to fine tune their suspensions.
One that sticks in my mind, possibly because of my taste in obscure cars, is the Hyundai XG30 (one of which I'd really like!). This (failed) 5 Series sized attempt to break into the executive car market used a tiptronic automatic gearbox designed by Porsche!.
With Lotus, what springs to mind is the Isuzu Piazza coupe. Always a nice looking car, but didn't handle very well when first introduced. So it was sent to the chaps at Norfolk to sort it out.
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And a straight 6 mounted transversely!!
Am I not right in thinking the Austin/Morris 2200 and Wolsely Six (Landcrab) also used a transversely mounted straight 6?
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And a straight 6 mounted transversely!!
Am I not right in thinking the Austin/Morris 2200 and Wolsely Six (Landcrab) also used a transversely mounted straight 6?
Yes - equally inhibited by it's narrow bores.
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A kindred spirit, BBD. I love any non-mainstream luxury car, they are fascinating. I always wanted to try the XG30 and also the fwd genesis (not the new ones).
On that basis, you will probably find this review of a mk1 Hyundai Equus (S class competitor) quite interesting as well!
youtu.be/FtmNXC8iqR4
Or this Hyundai Grandeur?
www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111169624334
Sorry for the thread drift ORB!
Edited by Metropolis. on 26/11/2021 at 11:14
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A kindred spirit, BBD. I love any non-mainstream luxury car, they are fascinating. I always wanted to try the XG30 and also the fwd genesis (not the new ones). On that basis, you will probably find this review of a mk1 Hyundai Equus (S class competitor) quite interesting as well! youtu.be/FtmNXC8iqR4 Or this Hyundai Grandeur? www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111169624334 Sorry for the thread drift ORB!
Never seen that Equus before, its got a real whiff of Lexus LS400 especially around the rear doors and C pillar.
About a year or two ago there was a Nissan President on Autotrader which also had that natty fold down panel in the front passenger seat!.
I don't mind the Grandeur, but I prefer the slightly kitsch styling of the XG30, preferably in metallic burgundy on the original alloys!
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Wikipedia suggests it was based on the Mitsubishi Proudia/Dignity. Would love to try a Mitsubishi saloon with their own v8. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Proudia
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Wikipedia suggests it was based on the Mitsubishi Proudia/Dignity. Would love to try a Mitsubishi saloon with their own v8. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Proudia
Hell yeah!, don't need wikipedia for that, its a carbon copy!. But that is another car which has completely passed me by.
Some of the names of these Japanese cars really crack me up though, I mean 'Proudia'?!. I know there are (much) worse, but still funny!.
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3 weeks on, did a fuel calculation, mostly urban and 32 mpg, which is beearable for a biggish brick shaped suv.
Comfort fine.
As with the Sportage, nothing to report...
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3 weeks on, did a fuel calculation, mostly urban and 32 mpg, which is beearable for a biggish brick shaped suv.
Comfort fine.
As with the Sportage, nothing to report...
Wasn't that about the same mpg as the Sportage ORB?
Just looking at the 'Our Cars' (cars on long term test) section of the Car magazine issue I'm reading at the moment. Nothing directly comparable to the Korando. But for reference, smaller and automatic is the new Mokka 1.2 turbo with an as tested figure of 36.2mpg (vs the official figure of 47.1). Slightly bigger but auto and hybrid is the Kia Sorento with an as tested 36.9mpg (official figure is 40.9). They are also running a lwb version of the Citroen Berlingo with the same drivetrain as the Mokka, it is managing 31.5mpg (officially 36.8-43.7).
So your economy seems about average for a petrol powered car of that size.
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My simular size brick shaped car is averaging 50/52 mpg...just saying :)
Glad your finding it comfortable though.
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My simular size brick shaped car is averaging 50/52 mpg...just saying :)
A Vitara isn't similar in size to a Korando. Plus the Vitara is well over 300kg lighter and is a mild hybrid. So not really comparable.
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Let's just say that given the size weight, that I am not unhappy with the fuel consumption..
I expected it to be around the same as the Sportage .
The front aspect of the korando looks better than the slightly froggy eyed appearance of the Sportage.. sides are more vertical and feels roomier inside.
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If you aren't covering many miles, the economy (within reason) isn't that important.
Of much more importantance is being comfortable in the car and happy with it!
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Still enjoying the heated seats?
They are a boon while the engine heats up.
I had the heated steering wheel on my last car but it took me a while to get used to it.
Glad the Korando is living up to your expectations.
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Let's just say that given the size weight, that I am not unhappy with the fuel consumption..
I expected it to be around the same as the Sportage .
The front aspect of the korando looks better than the slightly froggy eyed appearance of the Sportage.. sides are more vertical and feels roomier inside.
I suspect that the mpg will improve by a bit once the car has got through its first 1k or so. Not bad considering it has been quite nippy of late.
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My simular size brick shaped car is averaging 50/52 mpg...just saying :)
A Vitara isn't similar in size to a Korando. Plus the Vitara is well over 300kg lighter and is a mild hybrid. So not really comparable.
The difference in average consumption between predominantly congested urban and free-flowing motorways is huge for most cars - there can also be significant differences between proper brim-to-brim figures and those taken from trip computers.
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My simular size brick shaped car is averaging 50/52 mpg...just saying :)
A Vitara isn't similar in size to a Korando. Plus the Vitara is well over 300kg lighter and is a mild hybrid. So not really comparable.
The difference in average consumption between predominantly congested urban and free-flowing motorways is huge for most cars - there can also be significant differences between proper brim-to-brim figures and those taken from trip computers.
Mine is brim to brim,
The heated seats are really good, found out last night while waiting for swmbo at the railway station.
Edited by _ORB_ on 05/12/2021 at 12:40
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Sorry BBD but i dont get your point, theres only a few mm difference in size, my point was, and with no criticism to ORB and his choice of car was the difference between a non hybrid/ hybrid vehicle.....let's be honest 32mpg is rather poor for a "modern" car.
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Sorry BBD but i dont get your point, theres only a few mm difference in size, my point was, and with no criticism to ORB and his choice of car was the difference between a non hybrid/ hybrid vehicle.....let's be honest 32mpg is rather poor for a "modern" car.
I think you might be getting confused between the Ssangyong Korando and Tivoli. The Tivoli is the smallest Ssangyong (also bigger than a Vitara), the Korando is from the next size up and quite a bit bigger than both.
As well as being from the next size category up, the Korando is much heavier (which is a big factor in urban driving), and is not a mild hybrid.
32mpg may well be poor for a modern car, but it isn't especially poor for a (purely) petrol powered car of that size, type and weight. That is the reason why I mentioned earlier some figures for Car magazine's fleet.
But even ignoring the size and weight difference, you can't really compare your car with ORB's unless they are being driven the same way over the same roads. IMO, the Korando could do better under the right conditions, but I'm not convinced the Vitara could.
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Your quite right, I did get mixed up! apologies....feel a bit of a t#t now! :)
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32 mpg seems low for a modern car, especially with a turbo. Our Peugeot 2008 1.2turbo 130 is 15cm shorter and two obese adults lighter. The long term (>5000 miles) computer reading is 44 mpg. The short term computer can vary from 42 to nearly 50 depending on the journey and driving style. I haven't checked it by brim-to-brim recently but last time I did so it pretty much matched the computer.
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32 mpg seems low for a modern car, especially with a turbo. Our Peugeot 2008 1.2turbo 130 is 15cm shorter and two obese adults lighter. The long term (>5000 miles) computer reading is 44 mpg. The short term computer can vary from 42 to nearly 50 depending on the journey and driving style. I haven't checked it by brim-to-brim recently but last time I did so it pretty much matched the computer.
But remember, ORB hasn't had the car long and hasn't driven it very far, the engine will loosen up.
Also remember that the Sportage was doing about the same mpg with 30bhp and over 100nm of torque (at much higher revs) less.
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32 mpg seems low for a modern car, especially with a turbo. Our Peugeot 2008 1.2turbo 130 is 15cm shorter and two obese adults lighter. The long term (>5000 miles) computer reading is 44 mpg. The short term computer can vary from 42 to nearly 50 depending on the journey and driving style. I haven't checked it by brim-to-brim recently but last time I did so it pretty much matched the computer.
But remember, ORB hasn't had the car long and hasn't driven it very far, the engine will loosen up.
Also remember that the Sportage was doing about the same mpg with 30bhp and over 100nm of torque (at much higher revs) less.
Some cars have a big difference between real world brim-to-brim figures and trip computer calculated figures - in addition all cars have a big difference between overall average and congested urban use. ORB has posted that the figure is brim-to-brim and is local town work so 32 isn't a bad figure.
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Replies regarding fuel consumption are interesting, but try size for size and weight for weight, include that I didn't want a 3 pot, removing Nissans, Renault and Peugeot from the equation.
I only wanted petrol and manual . Cost difference to go Hybrid not worth it for my now 8000-9000 miles a year. The 1.5 turbo will gallop if i want it to, but also makes for a (slightly) more relaxed drive that the Sportage. The Stonic was much more like a go-cart...point and shoot...
Sportage and Tuscon cousin were only available as higher end hybrids £8-9000 more than I wanted to spend. when I snapped and decided that the stonic had to go.
The Korando does what we want, SWMBO approves, both happy with the comfy (and heated) seats and also the ride. On top of which it is no hardship moving from the sportage, as although a different finish to the dashboard and upper door panels, controls are virtually identical in both.
Little details like puddle lamps are nice as are other little touches. The Front and rear sensors for parking can be adjusted for sensitivity and the reversing camera is fine too.
At the end of the day, a bit more or less on fuel consumption is neither here nor there.
Now only at about 600 miles, so will update on fuel when another 1000 or so miles.
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32 mpg seems low for a modern car, especially with a turbo. Our Peugeot 2008 1.2turbo 130 is 15cm shorter and two obese adults lighter. The long term (>5000 miles) computer reading is 44 mpg. The short term computer can vary from 42 to nearly 50 depending on the journey and driving style. I haven't checked it by brim-to-brim recently but last time I did so it pretty much matched the computer.
Bear in mind, as BBD says, other than it being brand new (not loosened up yet), this is quite a big and especially heavy (1.5 tonnes kerb weight, 2 tonnes gross weight) car. For that, 32mpg ain't bad. I suspect over the year, after it has loosened up, it'll do around the 35-38mpg ave mark, only 5-10% off the official mpg figure of 40.
Your model's kerb weight (latest model at least) is in the 1150 - 1200kg range. Ironically I'd say the mpg for your car, being presumably reasonable new itself, sounds rather low. I realise it's more high-sided than my 15yo Mazda3 1.6 saloon, but I've always averaged about 40-41mpg (more than the Real MPG and even the official combined for my specific model [the refreshed one of mid-2006 had a remapped engine]) brim-to-brim out of mine.
Whilst yours is not that different to the Real MPG figure for the previous model (none for the 2020 model yet), that itself (45mpg) is only 79% of the official one, about the same drop as ORBs at the moment.
Perhaps its more of a symptom of some modern turbo-charged cars or manufacturers deliberately over-egging their cars 'improvements' in efficiency and green credentials?
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@ORB
What is your trim? Is it Ventura? Can you please advise whether it has dual zone climate control i.e. where driver and front passenger can have different temperature setting?
Looking at the brochure it seems this is available only in Ultimate trim.
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@ORB
What is your trim? Is it Ventura? Can you please advise whether it has dual zone climate control i.e. where driver and front passenger can have different temperature setting?
Looking at the brochure it seems this is available only in Ultimate trim.
Correct, I don't have climate control.
If you want that you get amongst other things the satnav and the 19" wheels..
If you are reasonably near come and see a lived in one.. and should you think of one Prestons in Chelmsford really are what you want, a local family run dealer, who know what they are talking about.
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@ORB
What is your trim? Is it Ventura? Can you please advise whether it has dual zone climate control i.e. where driver and front passenger can have different temperature setting?
Looking at the brochure it seems this is available only in Ultimate trim.
Climate control over manual A/C generally is IMHO a very useful feature, but dual zone is a waste of time, given the interior space is not sectioned off, and thus any effect of different temperatures from an air vent is temporary and negligable overall - rather like desk fans in the home/office.
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I find climate control is very useful as in my previous car it was continuous fighting with my wife who wanted it warmer and me wanted cooler :-)
Even if it just fan blowing hot or cold air, still I rather have this feature to avoid argument in the car.
This feature is often offered across entire range in many other manufacturers/models. I am bit surprised that Korando offers it in top trim only.
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I find climate control is very useful as in my previous car it was continuous fighting with my wife who wanted it warmer and me wanted cooler :-)
Even if it just fan blowing hot or cold air, still I rather have this feature to avoid argument in the car.
The 'Yes, dear' feature? :-)
I remember colleagues of mine from the Construction Industry saying they ofetn installed dummy controllers for City Dealers who wanted the supply air grille near their desk to have full temperature control.
A shame there isn't a feature on cars for the driver to take full control of the temperature but leave the passeneger to think they are controlling their side.
This feature is often offered across entire range in many other manufacturers/models. I am bit surprised that Korando offers it in top trim only.
It may be that they only have a limited range of trims, but I agree most makes now offer this on the mid-level trims and above as standard, especially on the Focus-sized cars and above.
Not the end of the world though.
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Not the end of the world though.
Could be end of the marriage though =:o)
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So, Six weeks on today and just like the Sportage, Nothing to report.
Now about 800 miles and urban economy around 30mpg, but lots of short runs, warming it up on the cold mornings, so not unhappy.
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warming it up on the cold mornings
In almost 50 years of driving never done that and never will. Simply wear suitable clothing.
How we used to laugh at the neighbour at the previous house, used to have his van warming up for about 1/2 an hour just so he could get into it wearing only a vest on his upper half.
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warming it up on the cold mornings
In almost 50 years of driving never done that and never will. Simply wear suitable clothing.
How we used to laugh at the neighbour at the previous house, used to have his van warming up for about 1/2 an hour just so he could get into it wearing only a vest on his upper half.
I meant for de-icing..
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warming it up on the cold mornings
In almost 50 years of driving never done that and never will. Simply wear suitable clothing.
How we used to laugh at the neighbour at the previous house, used to have his van warming up for about 1/2 an hour just so he could get into it wearing only a vest on his upper half.
I meant for de-icing.
We use a scraper for that
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I have a watering can by the front door in the porch.
Pour over car, 99% gone. couple of minutes getting bum warmed on heated seats while demists and clears anything less..
If the house garage hadn't been originally built for an A30 or such, would put it in there..
Edited by _ORB_ on 25/12/2021 at 10:58
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I have a watering can by the front door in the porch.
Pour over car, 99% gone. couple of minutes getting bum warmed on heated seats while demists and clears anything less..
If the house garage hadn't been originally built for an A30 or such, would put it in there..
Tried that once, not really successful.
By the time I got into the car thick ice had formed on the screen which was far harder to scrape off than the light coating of frost.
Then when the wife came out to get her car out of the garage she nearly went all her length on the ice that had formed on the drive.
Never done it since.
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I have a watering can by the front door in the porch.
Pour over car, 99% gone. couple of minutes getting bum warmed on heated seats while demists and clears anything less..
If the house garage hadn't been originally built for an A30 or such, would put it in there..
Tried that once, not really successful.
By the time I got into the car thick ice had formed on the screen which was far harder to scrape off than the light coating of frost.
Then when the wife came out to get her car out of the garage she nearly went all her length on the ice that had formed on the drive.
Never done it since.
A wee tip Thunderbird, use warm water and your ice will simply melt away! No effort needed with a scraper either ?? - Merry Christmas
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<< use warm water and your ice will simply melt away! No effort needed with a scraper either ? >>
None of these 'remedies' is likely to help if there is more than a very light frost. They are fine for clearing 'ground frost' with actual temp about zero. Once glass gets a degree or two below, things can ice up nicely.
Certainly never use water that is more than warm, to avoid thermal shock.
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Fortunate enough to have a secluded gated driveway, I used to start my old diesel when it was sub zero outside, then go back inside for a shower, get dressed, breakfast etc. Engine up to temp, car cosy inside, perfect. Engine still going strong at 160,000 never opened.
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Fan heater on an extension cable - carefully positioned of course ;-)
Clear windows and a nice warm interior after 15 mins.
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I'm with ORB, I always let the car warm up a bit before driving off and I never rev it over 2k until it's warmed through.
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Anyone remember the car heaters that plugged into the cigarette lighter. Used one on my Renault Espace because they used a matrix from the Cleo so it was impossible to clear an icy windscreen.
My colleague burnt out his lighter wiring using one so I carried on with a fan heater left inside for 15 minutes.
Remember driving to Suffolk with travel rugs and hot water bottles in the winter . The heater was simply useless .
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Anyone remember the car heaters that plugged into the cigarette lighter. Used one on my Renault Espace because they used a matrix from the Cleo so it was impossible to clear an icy windscreen.
My colleague burnt out his lighter wiring using one so I carried on with a fan heater left inside for 15 minutes.
Remember driving to Suffolk with travel rugs and hot water bottles in the winter . The heater was simply useless .
My Dad had one in his air-cooled VW T25 van. Barely provided any heat and certainly nothing like enough to defrost the screen.
I remember borrowing it to get to work during winter one year. When I was going home it was snowing quite heavily, but I couldn't keep the screen clear. I ended up opening both front windows and was wrapped up in a big jacket with hood up, scarf, hat and gloves to try and keep warm. I did get some funny looks driving through Aberdeen!.
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"Anyone remember the car heaters that plugged into the cigarette lighter. "
I had one years ago but found it useless. Maybe there were different outputs but I imagine the output running from the 12v socket would be limited.
Edited by Xileno on 26/12/2021 at 19:44
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"Anyone remember the car heaters that plugged into the cigarette lighter. "
I had one years ago but found it useless. Maybe there were different outputs but I imagine the output running from the 12v socket would be limited.
Cigarette lighter sockets are typically limited to 10 amps, so 120 watts would be maximum power output.
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Now 1200 miles, went to west london last saturday in the rain both ways.
The speed sensitive automatic wipers were nice..
Nothing to report 8 weeks on.
The purchase by Edison was reported 2 months ago..
I used the size comparison site suggested in another post and my inpressions were confirmed, roonier inside than the Sportage...
About 35mm shorter but wider and slab sided too, boot capacity greater too.
Edited by _ORB_ on 11/01/2022 at 08:30
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Now 2000 miles, zero problems, back and hips very happy on 3 hours down to portsmouth 2 weks ago with a break for lunch in Petersfield.
Fuel consumption A12/M25/A3 37mpg, fully loaded and a full size spare in the boot, so acceptable.
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Fuel consumption A12/M25/A3 37mpg, fully loaded and a full size spare in the boot, so acceptable.
That ain't too bad for a petrol powered car of that size, shape and weight ORB.
But i think it is doubtful the presence of a spare wheel would make any difference, at least none you'd notice (the tiniest fraction of 1% maybe).
So long as you (and ORG) are happy with it, and comfy in it.
:-)
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So long as you (and ORG) are happy with it, and comfy in it.
That's YRG...thank you... She'll be cross if i say ORG...
:-)
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So long as you (and ORG) are happy with it, and comfy in it.
That's YRG...thank you... She'll be cross if i say ORG...
:-)
Much grovelling apologies to YRG!
:-O
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So, now at 2300 miles, having done a couple of longish trips.
Perceived fault 1, after about a 100 miles, slowed down to 30 for a clear roundabout, and accelerated away, about 45-50 mph, felt like a missfire or (bear with me) turbo wastegate opening, but backed off a bit and normal service returned.
Ditto saturday coming off a roundabout, and yesterday, same happened, but with loss of power. managed to pull in to a layby after switching off and restarting all normal.egine management light came on briefly both times.
Later on the reurn 120 mile journey was able to re-create part of the fault.
Booked into the lovely Prestons in Chelmford. Fault diagnosed as faulty coil pack. Replaced and all is well.
Otherwise, entirely satisfied with the car, but documenting....
Edited by _ORB_ on 15/02/2022 at 17:03
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Part of the "joy" of having a car from a small family run dealership was the nice bit about being treated as a human being, and the way that you are dealt with as a customer.
Hats off to prestons...
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New coil pack at under 3k miles doesn’t sound promising. My 20 year old , 150k Focus is still on its original coil . Hopefully it’s a one off . Be aware of buying any Ssangyong parts out of warranty. They are frighteningly expensive. My neighbour has a Rexton and he broke the indicator repeater on the door mirror . Not available as a separate part . New complete mirror assembly fraction over £500 .
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New coil pack at under 3k miles doesn’t sound promising. My 20 year old , 150k Focus is still on its original coil . Hopefully it’s a one off . Be aware of buying any Ssangyong parts out of warranty. They are frighteningly expensive. My neighbour has a Rexton and he broke the indicator repeater on the door mirror . Not available as a separate part . New complete mirror assembly fraction over £500 .
If I bust a mirror or something suchlike it'll be an insurance job.
Got the 7 year warranty for the other bits...
But will i still have it in a few years time?
Answers on a postcard ?
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6 months :-)
SWMBO... why didn't you buy a Mercedes, or a Toyota.
Reply..If you want a GLA, its £45.000.
answer..oops...
Toyota only auto and hybrid...
Edited by _ORB_ on 16/02/2022 at 09:22
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New coil pack at under 3k miles doesn’t sound promising. My 20 year old , 150k Focus is still on its original coil . Hopefully it’s a one off . Be aware of buying any Ssangyong parts out of warranty. They are frighteningly expensive. My neighbour has a Rexton and he broke the indicator repeater on the door mirror . Not available as a separate part . New complete mirror assembly fraction over £500 .
Many cars have expensive door mirrors - for my VW Touareg it's about £1,600 !!!
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Now 2900 miles, 3 months into ownership..
After the coil pack fault, things have improved a lot, fuel consumption wise...
Just did a brim to brim afterColchester-A!2- M25- M1 A406 to Ealing and back very happy with 40.25 MPG.
Probably also due to "running in" loosening up effect.
Also happy to say SWMBO is happy.
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Now 4 months and settled in nicely, get the odd question.. what is that???
As per the Sportage, Nothing to report.
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Now 4 months and settled in nicely, get the odd question.. what is that???
As per the Sportage, Nothing to report.
Must be about time to think about its replacement?
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Now 4 months and settled in nicely, get the odd question.. what is that???
As per the Sportage, Nothing to report.
Must be about time to think about its replacement?
There will be no more changes for me.. I think that in the next year or two the Macular degeneration bug will finally have it's way. Optician last week said ok for the moment, but getting closer.. SWMBO likes it anyway, and it won't be worth trading in.. She would actally like a new REXTON.. Doh...
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Just stumbled across this thread and I've got to say that I think the Korando is a lovely looking car and I love the fact you've bought from a manufacturer that really does get overlooked.
I've got a new Tivoli on order which I shall hopefully be taking delivery of at the end of the month.
Being an Essex boy, I've ordered it from Prestons too and I've been very impressed with them so far.
Apologies for hijacking your thread Sir!
Edited by Nobby Clark on 10/04/2022 at 00:17
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Apologies for hijacking your thread Sir!
No problem with that..
A it Happens 5 months now, and the car fits like a glove, the one little glitch was resolved.
The importanr bit is that SWMBO likes it.
What spec are you getting?
Let us know, and if you want to meet for a pint.. email moderators@honestjohn.co.uk and it'll reach me.
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Apologies for hijacking your thread Sir!
No problem with that..
A it Happens 5 months now, and the car fits like a glove, the one little glitch was resolved.
The importanr bit is that SWMBO likes it.
What spec are you getting?
Let us know, and if you want to meet for a pint.. email moderators@honestjohn.co.uk and it'll reach me.
So glad to hear you are pleased with your Korando! What colour and trim did you go for?
I've gone for the Ventura trim in Dandy Blue. I went for a test drive with not much expectation of a Tivoli but I was very impressed! They are very well built and they handle very well and the steering is very sharp.
I was going to just go for the entry level trim as they are very well specced and I'm not really into gadgets and gizmos but I love the idea of having Android Auto and the extra airbags you get with the higher trim levels!
I know this is an old school thing but I'm toying with having an oil and filter change after 1000 miles. I know oils are much better nowadays than years ago when people would change their oil after 1k miles but I plan on keeping this car for a long time! What are your thoughts on this??
Where are you based Sir?? I'm based in Shoeburyness and could well be up for a pint! ??
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I don't own a ssangyong, I own a vitara but at the 500 mile check up I was asked if I would like the oil changed, at £40. It was a no brainer, despite what others may say fresh oil can only be a good thing ( tin hat firmly applied)....
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I don't own a ssangyong, I own a vitara but at the 500 mile check up I was asked if I would like the oil changed, at £40. It was a no brainer, despite what others may say fresh oil can only be a good thing ( tin hat firmly applied)....
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I wonder if your ""old"" oil went for recycling or found its way into some other souls car? A win win for the garage!
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I don't own a ssangyong, I own a vitara but at the 500 mile check up I was asked if I would like the oil changed, at £40. It was a no brainer, despite what others may say fresh oil can only be a good thing ( tin hat firmly applied)....
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Thank you Paul.. I reckon I'll be changing it then!
Edited by Nobby Clark on 10/04/2022 at 22:20
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I don't own a ssangyong, I own a vitara but at the 500 mile check up I was asked if I would like the oil changed, at £40. It was a no brainer, despite what others may say fresh oil can only be a good thing ( tin hat firmly applied)....
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Seems reasonable for the first 500 miles from a mechanical-sympathy-feelie-factor perspective, even if it doesnt strictly make economic sense
Might get rid of a lot of the assembly debris and early running-in swarf, which I suppose is the reasoning.
Bit wasteful to stick with that OCI long term though.
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I also change the gearbox and diff oils after the first 1,000 miles, same principle applies.
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I also change the gearbox and diff oils after the first 1,000 miles, same principle applies.
Cheers for your reply Metropolis :)
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I would not bother doing an oil change at 1000 miles, not for any reason.
The warranty is 7 years....
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I'm with you there _ORB_, but not because it's got a 7 year warranty.
If the OP and others change the oil at 1,000 miles are they also going to change it again at 2k, 3k, 4k, maybe start living dangerously and make the next change at 6k? Modern engines are manufactured to much finer tolerances than years back when an early change was the norm, but still we expect them to loosen up over the first 5-10k miles. If you expect swarf (of which I don't believe they will be any) to appear in the first 1,000 miles and not over the following 5k plus miles, then I can't see where you are coming from.
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I'm with you there _ORB_, but not because it's got a 7 year warranty.
If the OP and others change the oil at 1,000 miles are they also going to change it again at 2k, 3k, 4k, maybe start living dangerously and make the next change at 6k? Modern engines are manufactured to much finer tolerances than years back when an early change was the norm, but still we expect them to loosen up over the first 5-10k miles. If you expect swarf (of which I don't believe they will be any) to appear in the first 1,000 miles and not over the following 5k plus miles, then I can't see where you are coming from.
Agreed, cars are manufactured to much finer tolerances these days so you don't really need the early oil changes etc - saying that it would do no harm!
However what I don't like are long life/variable servicing where mileages between oil changes can be 20-30k! and as for sealed for life transmissions....
Edited by Big John on 11/04/2022 at 08:53
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However what I don't like are long life/variable servicing where mileages between oil changes can be 20-30k! and as for sealed for life transmissions...
.The Korando has a yearly oil change.
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.The Korando has a yearly oil change.
Excellent - I got my 14 plate Superb at 14months old/14k miles from a main dealer and it still wasn't even due it's first variable service! As part of the purchase I asked for the first service and for it to be changed to fixed annual/9.5k miles service intervals(possible with Skoda). It's important on mine to look after the timing chain of ill repute, all ok still at over 100k miles - fingers crossed!.
As it happens I drove past a local SsangYong dealer(It used to be a Citroen) whilst on a local trip out yesterday - might have to pop in sometime and have a look see. I'm interested because of your description of the seats - too many normal cars have over bolstered seats that my ample frame dislikes! I used to love the seats in Saabs, Volvo's, Rover 75 etc.
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europe.autonews.com/
Sale of ssangyong motors has fallen through, administrators now looking for new buyers.
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europe.autonews.com/
Sale of ssangyong motors has fallen through, administrators now looking for new buyers.
I could not find it on that site however here is another site to confirm the news
auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/cars/mahindras-bid-to...l
This report is dated 8th April 2022 so is up to date.
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europe.autonews.com/
Sale of ssangyong motors has fallen through, administrators now looking for new buyers.
I could not find it on that site however here is another site to confirm the news
auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/cars/mahindras-bid-to...l
This report is dated 8th April 2022 so is up to date.
Some people will be bothered.. I am not.
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As it happens I drove past a local SsangYong dealer(It used to be a Citroen) whilst on a local trip out yesterday - might have to pop in sometime and have a look see. I'm interested because of your description of the seats - too many normal cars have over bolstered seats that my ample frame dislikes! I used to love the seats in Saabs, Volvo's, Rover 75 etc.
I don't kow what size yo are (no need to tell....)
I am 6'2" in old money, but currently 98 kilos, new money and 40" waist (old money) Size 12 shoes,( Currently Loakes brogues..)
The bolsters are quite similar to the Rover 75, the heated seats are fab when it's cold, and the manual sdjustment is good enough for me to adjust a bit if i need a change of position, Steering column also up/down/ in/out adjustable.
As said in my earlier review, the digital instrument panel is clear and easy to flip between various functions. Best are the ventura and ultimate specs.
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Now a week shy of 7 months, and trip to france and Belgium under its belt.. 4854 miles.
Average 37mpg driving to speed limits on morways and up to an indicated 135 kmh.
( love that changeable display ! )
Felt very stable on the road at those speeds too, and no aches and pains.
2 usb ponts and 12v power socket all useful.
Various lane keeping and side radar thing very useful, but didn't go for using the cruise control.
Took all the paraphernalia for doggy and us.
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Average 37mpg driving to speed limits on morways and up to an indicated 135 kmh.
Doesn't seem too bad for a car of that size and shape?
and no aches and pains.
This is obviously important!
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It's so fascinating to me that a Daewoo, rebadged as a Chevrolet and then sold in the UK features an engine designed by Porsche! And a straight 6 mounted transversely!!
As it happens, one is for sale and if you scroll through the photos, you will see the engine has 6 markings on the engine cover and is 24 valve, so the inline 6 was definitely an option in the UK, assuming it's a UK car:
www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111199757290?p...1
Many famous car companies have a design/consultancy service parallel with their car development business - Porsche have designed several engines for external companies including SEAT before VW Group bought them - and several brands have used Lotus to fine tune their suspensions.
One that sticks in my mind, possibly because of my taste in obscure cars, is the Hyundai XG30 (one of which I'd really like!). This (failed) 5 Series sized attempt to break into the executive car market used a tiptronic automatic gearbox designed by Porsche!.
With Lotus, what springs to mind is the Isuzu Piazza coupe. Always a nice looking car, but didn't handle very well when first introduced. So it was sent to the chaps at Norfolk to sort it out.
One that won't stick in anyone's mind would be the CMC (China Motor Corporation) Varica, an indigenous Taiwanese Bedford-Rascal-stylee little blue truck with (at least in one of the early models) an engine co-developed with Lotus.
Not many people know that.
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Ssangyong reduced their warranty from 7 years to 5 years!
www.ssangyonggb.co.uk/contents/warranty
EV still gets 7-yr though.
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Just a brief update, Korando now at 10500 miles, just returned from another Belgium trip,(5 in 8 months) is edging 39.8 mpg now on long runs at between 65 and 70 mpg, still as comfortable and interior is as new, except for the occasional dog hair vacuuning job. Aiming to drive down to Italy via Belgium, rhine valley, geneva to see old fiends then Montgenevre and turin along to lakes this summer.
AS a reactive purchase to the poor seats in the Kia stonic it has worked out quite well., so no apologies for keeping it.
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Glad to hear you are still happy with the mighty Korando ORB!
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Just a brief update, Korando now at 10500 miles, just returned from another Belgium trip,(5 in 8 months) is edging 39.8 mpg now on long runs at between 65 and 70 mpg, still as comfortable and interior is as new, except for the occasional dog hair vacuuning job. Aiming to drive down to Italy via Belgium, rhine valley, geneva to see old fiends then Montgenevre and turin along to lakes this summer.
AS a reactive purchase to the poor seats in the Kia stonic it has worked out quite well., so no apologies for keeping it.
Nice to see you back on the forum, enjoying your Karando, and I hope you have a lovely Eurotrip.
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Now at 17 months and barring the initial problem with the coil pack all is doing well.
Seats still as comfy.
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Now at 17 months and barring the initial problem with the coil pack all is doing well.
Seats still as comfy.
Blimey, time flies. I was going to have a look see but our local dealer closed! Seat ergonomics / comfort is a real priority for me though.
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It's so fascinating to me that a Daewoo, rebadged as a Chevrolet and then sold in the UK features an engine designed by Porsche! And a straight 6 mounted transversely!!
As it happens, one is for sale and if you scroll through the photos, you will see the engine has 6 markings on the engine cover and is 24 valve, so the inline 6 was definitely an option in the UK, assuming it's a UK car:
www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111199757290?p...1
Many famous car companies have a design/consultancy service parallel with their car development business - Porsche have designed several engines for external companies including SEAT before VW Group bought them - and several brands have used Lotus to fine tune their suspensions.
One that sticks in my mind, possibly because of my taste in obscure cars, is the Hyundai XG30 (one of which I'd really like!). This (failed) 5 Series sized attempt to break into the executive car market used a tiptronic automatic gearbox designed by Porsche!.
With Lotus, what springs to mind is the Isuzu Piazza coupe. Always a nice looking car, but didn't handle very well when first introduced. So it was sent to the chaps at Norfolk to sort it out.
One that won't stick in anyone's mind would be the CMC (China Motor Corporation) Varica, an indigenous Taiwanese Bedford-Rascal-stylee little blue truck with (at least in one of the early models) an engine co-developed with Lotus.
Not many people know that.
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