My Aunt's white Rover 216Si 96N with 77000 miles needs to go. She is looking to trade it in at a Toyota dealer for a Yaris.
The Yaris is a Silver 2000W 1.3 CDX with 25k miles on the clock. The sticker Price (Toyota assured) is £6750. From looking at guides the dealer price appears to be about £6500. I am wondering what a good deal would be here. The part exchange value is yet to be determined, but hoping for about £1500, the cost to change would be £5250. I reckon if she can get this down to £5000 this would work out about right. What are the backrooms thoughts? There would be no finance involved. The part exchange is the critcial point, but if that offer isn't attractive we would consider a private sale.
Any thoughts would be welcomed...
Paul C
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Paul,
There are a number of sites selling brand new(pre facelift) Yaris 1.3CDX for £8,700 or so. IMO £6,750 for a 3 year old car is far too much.
You can also buy a facelifted 1.3 T3 model quite cheap.
C
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Private sale the car for £2,000.
New 1.3 T3 5 door is £8,017 from www.ukcarbroker.co.uk Cost to change, plus metallic if you want it, is £6,000.
£5k to a three year old car is too much as the 3 year old is likely to be worth maybe £3,200 as against £5,000 or more for the new one, so over three years new will work out cheaper even if she has to borrow the difference.
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Cardew.
I realise this but the budget won't stretch to this - I have suggested the T3, but seeing as it will probably be the last car she will buy and wants aircon, CD player, abs and a few luxuries which discount it. I must say, that the Yaris did look in good nick, but the AA inspection/local mechanic is just round the corner if the trade in price is acceptable. Cheers for the suggestion - you are echoing my sentiments.
If there was a Daihatsu dealer locally, the Charade would have a big look in as it has most of what she wants in it, but it they are miles away.
Paul C
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Where does she live Paul? I might have a friend who's interested in the Rover if you want £1500 for it.
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Phoenicks
Sorry, somehow I missed your post. She lives North Berks / South Oxon. I will tell her about it, do you think your friend will still be interested?
Paul
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Paul,
Look at the last line of KB's thread on Toyota dealers.
C
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A few months ago I seriously considered buying a Yaris and went to my local Toyota dealer to have a look at them. The one the salesman steered me towards was a V reg 1.3 CDX. The price on the sticker was £7500 which was dropped by £500 with no haggling on my part. I decided against it because that seemed an outrageous amount to pay for a small car of that age. A bottom-of-the-range new one would have cost about the same with free insurance although it would have been pretty basic with no power steering (I think this has changed with the facelifted models).
I ended up buying a new Fabia via a broker: new because I found there were few, if any, used bargains to be had in this sector of the market and a Fabia because, although I liked the look of the Yaris, I thought it might be ever so slightly too small.
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Best to go to a supermarket. With a new car you get the 3yr warranty and can run in the car properly so it lasts longer and won't drink oil.
Personally, I would go for a diesel YARIS. They are more economical and will give a better resale value. I think I saw a new one for £8k.
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I just checked Motorpoint and Trade Sales. TS has nothing at all; the closest MP has is a 1.3 GS (old spec, though with air) at £8.5k. What spec is this diesel though? You could get a T2 three dor from a broker, but it's only a three door and is properly basic, worse even than the T3.
Also, if she's planning to keep the car for a long time (say, 5-10 years) the difference in resale value will be minimal for a diesel, and if she's only doing 5k per year she won't get back purchase premium in fuel savings.
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OK.
A decent spec Yaris at a reasonable price is hard to find. he dealer wouldn't budge on price and only offered £1000 for the Rover. Actually he very kindly offer 6 months road tax.
The specs for the car are Air Con and CD player (built in if poss). And very reliable and able to last for years. Budget is about 5k plus the Rover. My thoughts have turned to the Charade but there aren't any dealers near. Otherwise we are now looking at a late old model Micra 1.4 SE+ to get the things we want. But where do they keep the high spec ones? I have found one special edition 51 1.4 Activ with no mileage mentioned for 4.5k. Everywhere has base spec cars, no high spec ones anywhere it seems. Also, the car above was found on the web at the Japanese Car Centre with an 0208 number. Has anyone any experience of them?
Thanks in advance.
Paul C
Paul
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Might not get the reliability, but then again you mightm, as they're not badly put together...
A brand new Ibiza 1.2 is £7,370 with air and CD player, as well as a year's free insurance, probably only worth a couple of hundred to your aunt but still quite nice.
www.tins.co.uk
Alternatively, do a search on Autotrader for a Micra, up to 2 years old, national (or local to you if you prefer), 1.4 SE as trim level, and so on.
There are a couple in the main dealer system, but they seem expensive for what they are, although they tend to be sold with lots of p/x overallowances, free finance and the like.
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Paul C, Re. your enquiry about my Diesel Yaris in my "Toyota Dealer v Broker" thread......I did drop an, ever so dicreet, hint that it would have been nice if you'd replied to my response to you.......but nevertheless.......
I would not be selling mine if it were not for the extra space needed in the Corolla Verso which I've got on order and add my recommendation to the ever growing list of people singing their praise. I've had 1 litres, 1.3 litres and 1.3 Auto's and the diesel is a cracker.
KB.
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Sorry KB,
I'm not sure how I didn't reply to your post. If it was a perfect world we would have been round biting your hand off, but from the recentness of your Yaris I reckon it would be well out of our budget. I will mention it again to my Aunt, but I am fairly sure it is too much.
Paul C
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Paul C, Your oversight is readily forgiven.
The new car is due in September, so the Yaris would ideally go at the end of this month. I'm having it's first yearly service done at the end of the month and haven't received the reminder for the road tax yet - and I shall want to tax it for the forthcoming year - so it's not really properly up for sale right now. A local dealer has said it would go on his front at well over ten. Parkers says "Good - Private" is £9815. I'll advertise it at £9750 and maybe expect to drop a little bit.
Might put it in the classified section on this site to see if there's any interest.
Thanks for your reply.
KB.
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You might be better off going straight back to the local dealer who'd put it up for 'well over £10k'.
UKCB has the facelifted D4D T-Spirit 5 door for £10221, which is £1k off. Assuming that you can get £500 off new locally, I can't see this car going privately for more than £1500 less than new - or £9k. Even then I'd consider it a good result, as it's pretty cheap for a year's motoring though, with no other expenses.
You might even get out of the expense and bother of servicing and taxing the car.
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Indeed, David. I fully expect to offered 9 for it and would be happy with that. Any less than that and I think the buyer would be doing very well and at present don't feel obliged to oblige....as it were.
KB.
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