I'm not convinced that the extra cost of a PHEV is compensated for enough by the greater economy: as you rightly show, you have to factor in the cost of the electricity as well.

Neither am I but when I did a comparison between the Superb TSi 190 (the 2 litre one with DSG which was top of my list) and the iV it was remarkably close when you factored in the predicted depreciation rates and fuel savings. The depreciation of the TSi 190 was predicted to be quite a bit higher than the iV which closed the gap considerably. I also seem to be getting a bit more mpg than I predicted thus the gap between it and the thirsty 190 closes a bit more. Factor in a cheaper rate charging (when we get it sorted) and it closes a bit more.

But the biggest factor that made it look workable was the price we got it for as a 3 week old pre-reg cancelled order. Pretty sure it will cost less over 3-4 years than the 190TSi would have bought from a broker.

Even if it costs a bit more over 3 or 4 years it will still be worth it since the drive is way better than any petrol/diesel DSG I have driven previously. All the dim witted reactions have either gone or more likely masked by the electric boost.

Your Superb is a bit bigger than we need

The Superb is bigger than we need but bigger is not an issue, it still fits in either garage. And don't forget that the iV's loose some boot space, the Superb is still OK, just.

but the Octavia IV looks good.

I recently specced up an Octavia iV SE-L up just to see what it would cost us now. Just as when we bought the first Superb the Octavia misses lots of kit the Superb gets as standard, kit we would want. Add those and just as before the Octavia would have cost us more than the Superb.

Then there was the poor experiences we have had in the past when we drove 4 Octavias which makes me never want to waste my time even considering one. They look good value but are built cheaper and appear cheaper in the brochures (unless you look at a Superb).

Using list prices for an SEL, the Superb IV is about £5,000 more than the 2.0 petrol and £9,000 more than the 1.5 petrol - which is why I would query whether it's good value.

But I think Skidpan got a good deal on a cancelled order.

(Edit - I see he's just answered that question. Lower depreciation also narrows the gap. And one could add in the Superb's favour that so far it hasn't gone down the everything-by-touchscreen route that the new octavia has.)

Edited by Avant on 01/03/2021 at 12:03

Interesting..

On an equivalent model to model, How much mote was the hybrid option?

If say £2000 how do you work out the extra cost per mile for the extra equipment against savings.?

Stick with me, its a bit complicated but at my end simplified by the magic of the spreadsheet, just need to describe it so its easy to understand what I did. Note that I have not included servicing, insurance, VED, tyres etc since they would be the same for all the cars.

Over 3 years using HJ's "real" mpg figures and a 40% residual value buying from Carfile the 190 SE-L appeared to have a 3 year cost of £15477.

Over 3 years using the 45 mpg I got from the 1.4TSi and a 48% residual value buying from Carfile the iV appeared to have a 3 year cost of £17294 so not really viable. But experience so far suggest the actual mpg we are getting (including electricity cost) is closer to 60 mpg thus the 3 years cost would reduce to about £16700, closer but still £1200 more.

The pre reg we bought using the same figures we used for the above example had a 3 year cost of £15287 so a bit less than a new broker supplied 190. It looked a winner to me and we bought it. Factor in the better mpg and that comes down to about £14700 thus a suggested saving of about £700 over the broker supplied 190.

Another 150 TSi but this time with a DSG would have a predicted cost of £13911 over 3 years, a saving of about £800 but as with previous DSG's we have tried it was horrid, would not have bought one to hate it.

But have just spotted an error with my figures/spreadsheet. The costs for broker prices are all for cars with no extras, we don't need any, but we would have specified was metallic @ £500 and its not included. The cost for the pre-reg iV we bought includes metallic so the suggested saving between the 190 and iV grows to £1200.

Will know when we sell it if I was right but to me based on the drive alone it was worth it. To add DCC (dynamic chassis control) to the 190 and 150 would cost another £900 (its standard on the iV) and it does add a good deal of extra comfort and body control over the standard suspension but not experimented yet, probably more surprises to come. And I said above the drive of the iV is magic (don't want to use the word superb).

I moved our electricity supply to Octopus and their 'Go' tariff in preparation for the delivery of my Tesla Model 3. It gives a cheap rate of 5 per kw between 0030 and 0430, meaning I can charge around 28kw for £1.40. Not bad at all. Outside those times it's 14.5p per kw with a standing charge of 25p a day. Octopus seem to be the go to supplier amongst the Tesla forums.

I do have a referral code if anyone is interested - gives you (and me) a £50 credit on signing up.