No idea what the actual price of the Jazz is but if it costs more than such as the Fabia with no apparent advantages I fear its doomed in the longer term. Surely the 80+ year olds that love the Jazz will realise they can get the same for far less.

I've seen £21k reported.

Wow. Seems that they are not planning on making it a big seller then. With Hondas limited range pricing your entry level car at that level is surely suicide in these difficult times.

I heard the jazz is going to go through a complete redesign for 2021-2 and all cars having the same chassis, body will start looking similar to the accord only to differ with size.

Civic, Jazz, with the New Type R - are seen on youtube, and although they are similar looking the one noticeable difference is they are doing away with the upward sloping rear doors giving larger and lower windows

also a lower rear screen to ease visibility, possibly doing away with the side door mirrors for camera (undecided yet) they all look a lot better imo as they will look like the Accord

It starts at 18890. Goes up to 23450 for the Crosstar crossover variant, with raised ride height and body mouldings.

There are few cars in recent times more fit for purpose than a Jazz. UK traffic speeds have got slower and slower, as congestion has risen and road space has fallen. Making a small car with exceptional interior room and flexibility was always going to get strong business.

Honda have been at hybrid for 21 years. Maybe not all the time in the UK, but definitely in their main markets of Asia and US. The drivetrain in the new Jazz (and CR-V) is well ahead of European manufacturers. In a car the size of the Jazz, two electric motors working off a petrol engine, which acts purely as an electric generator most of the time, is quite something. With virtually no impact on the car's famed practicality, which is such a strong selling point on this car. As for long-term reliability, this is a Honda petrol/electric drivetrain. It's going to be very very low risk.

MPG wise, the reviews I've read say it will deliver 60mpg however you drive it, with Auto Express hitting 70mpg on an extended run. A petrol/hybrid automatic with a 0-60 of 9.4 which can hit 70mpg, not sure anything else in it's class can compare with that.

As for the price....by comparison Ford gave a press release of the new Fiesta 'mild' hybrid yesterday. Basically their 1.0 Ecoboost coupled to a 48v belt-driven starter/generator. Prices from £19890......for a smaller car with a basic hybrid assistance and typical Ford depreciation. I'm sure the Ford steers better, but what use is that driving in the UK? I'd take practicality and residuals every time.

Maximum interior space for a minimum footprint seems like commonsense to me.

Honda in this country have an elderly demographic customer base. For many pensioners who can afford to buy a new car, price may not be the main determinant. Many have final salary pension schemes, may have downsized, and have cash in the bank.

If they want to spend an extra £5k on a car because they like what it represents, how it drives etc etc they can afford it. They may only buy 1,2, or 3 cars during retirement anyway.

On this forum many have no difficulty in justifying spending £30k++ on a car for the frankly trivial or irrelevant - how many cupholders, acceleration, steering feel, size (bigger=better), 0-60 mph etc.

What I don't understand is hybrid - energy used is a function of how it is driven (speed, acceleration etc) and weight.

Hybrids add weght (+cost, + complexity) to a normal ICE making it fundamentally less efficient. The only circumstances where it may be more efficient is in heavy traffic where a stationary EV will better an idling ICE.

Toyota offered a seriously fast hybrid from 2006, namely the Lexus GS450h, which with its combined petrol engine and electric motor churned out nearly 500hp together when full power required, offering 0-62mph in under 6 seconds and a limited 155mph top end.

My BIL's previous car was a 2nd gen Honda Civic IMA Hybrid. About the same size as my Mazda3 (though the former's boot is only 350L against my car's 405L) and reasonable to drive, giving around the 48 mpg, which was better than my 1.6 petrol Mazda by 20% but under that of the Prius by nearly the same amount.

To be fair to Honda, I think they always had concentrated more on the driving experience (including performance) than Toyota have done up until about that time, but then they seem to have lost their way, especially with what should be their core market. No wonder so many more Priuses were bought than the Honda.

The same goes for the sort-of successor to the original Insight, the CR-Z - nice to look at, reasonable handling, but not a practical car, nor that quick comapred to rival 'warm hatch' cars or green compared to the other hybrids, and...expensive for what you got. Very few discounts and thus very few sold.

Sometimes you have to wonder at the post millenial (well, post 2005) Honda R&D and sales/marketing departments. They had it all and threw it all away, with sale increasingly being vacuumed up by Toyota, Mazda, but especially the South Korean makes like Hyundai/KIA, and to some extent, for the value-for-money buyer, Skoda & SEAT.

My BIL now runs a 2nd gen (non hybrid) Jazz and seems happy with it, as I suspect it gives similar fuel economy than the Civic Hybrid and a bigger boot space as there's no hybrid batteries to hide under the floor.