any - insurance logic - two drivers - three prices. - Mr Red

I recently asked my insurers what effect changing the second driver would have. It upped the price from a retired ex PSV Ambulance driver with unblemished record, to a mid 50's woman with one record of a hit years ago. It upped the price by maybe £20 in £200 ish. So I said well what if I didn't have a second driver? that upped the price by maybe £10. neither ladies live at the same address and have their own car. The car is low mileage anyway.

After questioning the logic of this they just (verbally) shrugged, that is the way the statistics tell them! Statistics, schmistics. Bias in data for AI is a well known problem, but not to insurance companies!

The older driver was about to be loaded with flood insurance on her house which is 10 ft above a sloping road, which is 60 ft above the main road which is another 20 ft above a stream which would incapacitate a sizeable industrial estate never known to be so! PostCode is all they could squawk. As if there aren't apps and website that will tell them of flood risk. A look at an OS map would tell them, if they knew how to use one. SatNavs wouldn't cut that one!

I was once told to pay for a radiator after a bump, because they wear out! Since when did modern cars' radiators need repair in 200,000 miles?

any - insurance logic - two drivers - three prices. - skidpan

I was once told to pay for a radiator after a bump, because they wear out! Since when did modern cars' radiators need repair in 200,000 miles?

The answer to that is frequently. Modern radiators are made of Aluminium with pressed on plastic ends and even if the road salt does not eat away the aluminium core during the winter the frequent heating and cooling will eventually harden the plastic and the inevitable will happen. That is why there are a large number of specialists selling radiators on the internet. Luckily the prices are low and the quality good even for non OEM parts.

As for insurance prices and a second driver who knows why prices are affected. But its perfectly normal for the addition of a second driver with a clean record to reduce the price even if the main driver has a clean record. Add a second (and preferably a third driver) to an 18 year olds policy and the price tumbles. Add grandma and grandad as well and they would probably be paying you.

any - insurance logic - two drivers - three prices. - RaineMan

A friend's wife gave up her own car about 20 years ago because it was hardly used following a house move nearer the main shopping area. He added her as a named driver and for many years it increased his premium. As a matter of interest he asked a few years ago how much the extra premium was? To his surprise the premium increased with him only driving! Err, work that out!

any - insurance logic - two drivers - three prices. - focussed

The main reason for failure of aluminium radiators is electrolytic corrosion.

The usual cause is anti-freeze which is "worn-out" IE -not changed frequently enough so the anti-corrosion chemicals are dissipated and weakened. A secondary cause is using a weaker than 50% anti-freeze/water mix which fails to give the corrosion protection needed.

any - insurance logic - two drivers - three prices. - Avant

Motor insurance seems to be one of the worst examples of SCS - Stupid Computer Syndrome. In April SWMBO changed from a Group 15 Audi A1 to a Group 29 A3 convertible, and the premium went down (this is with Send All Grannies Away). I suspect that the computer software was too thick just to change it, so she was insured as a new client.

All one can do is be glad when it works in one's own favour, and shop around when it doesn't.