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Recommendations needed please. - Jacqueline Fowler

My son will be leaving University this summer. He will be 22, and quite sensible (not a boy racer lol). I need recommendations for a good car to help him buy. I would like something which is possibly 3/4 years old max, about £4,000 to £4,500 at a push £5,000. Somewhere between 1200 and max 1400 cc. A good reliable solid car ... any suggestions would be very welcome.

Recommendations needed please. - P3t3r

What will he be using it for? Long journeys, short journeys, city driving? Will he have passengers very often? Does he need to carry large items?

Recommendations needed please. - Jacqueline Fowler

To be honest, diffcult to say. As a new driver he could take it easy and just tootle around, but he could take off to the other side of the country. Who can call it? I remember when I first start to drive on my own. Once he gets some confidence he could be driving from end of the country to the other lol.

Recommendations needed please. - SLO76
Relax that 3/4yr old stipulation and you'll have loads of outstanding little cars to choose from. The Ford Fiesta being probably the best of the lot. It's a joy to drive, nice to look at and pleasant to sit in plus it enjoys Japanese levels of reliability from its Yamaha designed engine - if you stick with petrol.

Auto Trader:

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180316462...0

The Suzuki Swift is another wee belter in petrol form (the diesel is a Fiat motor and trouble with a capital T) and like the Fiesta they're great fun and reliable.

Auto Trader:

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180328500...5

The Mazda 2 shares much with the Fiesta (Ford owned Mazda at the time) but it uses Mazda's own bulletproof chain driven petrol engines. Again fun to drive and robust but slightly cheaper than the Ford so you'll get newer for your cash.

Auto Trader:

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180219387...2


Other options include the Toyota Yaris, preferably the excellent 1.33 petrol but not as enjoyable to drive as the three above.

The Toyota Aygo/Peugeot 107/108/Citroen C1 (all the same car really) fun and cheap but tiny inside and a bit lost on motorways.

Edited by SLO76 on 29/03/2018 at 21:52

Recommendations needed please. - 72 dudes

Great advice from SLO76 as usual.

I would probably add the Skoda Citigo/Seat Mii/VW Up to that list (all the same car).

Yes, they only have a 1.0 litre engine but don't get hung up on this. They can be rowed along at a decent pace. The engine comes in two states of tune anyway, 59 and 74 BHP.

Recommendations needed please. - Jacqueline Fowler

I would never have thought of even looking at a Skoda, but I definitely check it out. Thank you.

Recommendations needed please. - Leif

I would never have thought of even looking at a Skoda, but I definitely check it out. Thank you.

I would never have thought of even looking at a Skoda, but I definitely check it out. Thank you.

I’ve had a VW Up for six years, it’s done 130,000 miles, faultless. Only 1 litre engine but it’s better than the 1.3 litre one in my previous car. Surprisingly roomy inside. Don’t knock the three pots. Also consider older Polos, and the Skoda and Seat equivalents. Kia Picanto and Hyundai equivalent are good albeit not a good brand image.

Recommendations needed please. - Jacqueline Fowler

My husband had a Swift and it was a really good car. My first car was a Mazda (my Dad's old car and I LOVED it. Will def research that as I still want another Mazda myself lol. Thanks for all your help.

Recommendations needed please. - Jacqueline Fowler

Hi guys, I'm back again.

I have been taking on board your recommendations and have afound a few potential buys.

I would love your opinions as to which would be potantially the most value for money/reliable buy?

These are just three I have found:

A Skoda Citago: www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180123301...1

A mazda 2:

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180131328...2

and a Suzuki Swift:

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180328502...2

Edited by Jacqueline Fowler on 17/04/2018 at 20:20

Recommendations needed please. - SLO76
Three decent little cars from the look of them. All things equal (condition/history) I’d have the Mazda 2. It’s the best all rounder in my opinion but I’d understand why any young lad or lass would want that wee limited edition Citigo. It’s a bit of a personal love it or hate it choice however and come resale time it’ll put many off. That said, it’s the cheapest to run and the most modern.
Recommendations needed please. - KJP 123

I don’t have the experience of SLO to advise you and the Mazda does have a solid reputation but the Suzuki seems good from reports on reliability.

Seems you are looking fairly locally and that is a good idea.

I saw a difference in VED but more importantly is there much difference in insurance?

Maybe consider features - A/C, central locking, electric mirrors etc – whatever you, or rather your son, thinks is important.

Recommendations needed please. - Jacqueline Fowler

My son doesn't know I am looking. It will be a graduation gift.

He is aiming for, and looking at his ongoing results will get an honours degree. I want to reward that. :D

Recommendations needed please. - Jacqueline Fowler

Argh, insurance!

I haven't even gone there, bit I know it will be expensive. I am hoping that him being 22 it might be TINY bit cheaper!

Recommendations needed please. - Engineer Andy

Argh, insurance!

I haven't even gone there, bit I know it will be expensive. I am hoping that him being 22 it might be TINY bit cheaper!

It might be worth including in his present (if he hasn't done this himself already) a 'Pass Plus' course, which should help him reduce his insurance premium (some insurers offer specific reductions for young drivers who take [and presumably pass!] the course) and go for one of the cheaper to insure cars as well.

www.gov.uk/pass-plus

You may also find that its worth waiting for the car and insurance until your son has a job, as, depending upon what that is, it could make a large difference to the insurance premium as well - being a 'yoof' with no job (yet - e.g. summer hols/looking for work) and time on their hands is often thought of by insurers as a licence to burn rubber, rather than a responsible young person with a job. Being classed as 'unemployed' does make a difference - it bumped my premium up by 10% even when I was in my late 30s, even if the actual amount was only £30pa.

Whatever you do, make sure he is listed as the main driver of the car. Quite a few parents don't this these days to save their kids huge amounts of money on insurance premiums, but its illegal.

As regards the cars, for me, its between the Mazda2 and the Suzuki. I'd personally keep the car performance to a minimum - at that age, they need to learn (via experience) how to drive responsibly, rather than how quick can they go before losing control. They can still have fun in any small car nowadays.

Best of luck.

Recommendations needed please. - Jacqueline Fowler

I am leaning to towards the Citigo, because it looks quite sporty, and it only has a small engine lol. (Mams really want sons to drive REALLY slowly.) ;) It's also newer and the interior is pretty sleek.

Re-reading an earlier post, apparently the Citigo is quite nippy. That's OK, just don't want him in some crazy souped up thing, however sensible he might be when I'm around, it''s easy to get carried away, when you have a bunch of friends aboard.

Edited by Jacqueline Fowler on 17/04/2018 at 22:02

Recommendations needed please. - badbusdriver

Given the swift has 55% more power than the citigo, i'd be inclined to get a quote for that before going any further!. But the citigo certainly should be the cheapest to insure, probably by quite a margin. It, along with it's VW and Seat kissing cousin's (the Up and the Mii) are designed with insurance in mind, having fewer seperate body panels to make it cheaper to repair following a minor bump. The Citroen C1, Peugeot 108 and Toyota Aygo were designed in a similar fashion, so if insurance is going to be a major factor, might be worth looking at one of those too.

Recommendations needed please. - badbusdriver

Here is an example of the current Aygo with it's eyecatching looks,

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180313453...1

Recommendations needed please. - KJP 123

It’s a nice idea to surprise him but would you pay for an expensive holiday for him without knowing where he really wanted to go?

Say he can pick the car with limits on sensibilities – no ancient BMWs.

Insurance is not just about performance: it’s also about repair costs. Why Vauxhall Corsas and Citroen Saxas were favoured by the young at one time.

And third party is often more than comprehsive.

Recommendations needed please. - daveyK_UK
I would advise to check the cars insurance group, as close to group 1 as possible.

www.parkers.co.uk/car-insurance/group-1/

Please note, it’s only the smaller engines and lower trim models that fall within group 1.
Recommendations needed please. UPDATE - Jacqueline Fowler

Thanks for ALL your advice and recommendations.

We bought him a car last week, a Hyundai i10. Insurance group 1 (yeah!) which cost us £671 at Admiral, which I was well pleased with. It's March 2016 and we paid £6320 which I reckon was fair. Only 12,064 miles on the clock. It has warranty until March 2021, which includes roadside assistance. I got them to check the brake pads, as this can be an issue and is not included on the warranty.

He put some money towards it too, but gained a First Class Honours Degree, so we were pretty proud of him! :D The most important thing for him was it had to be blue! It is Morning Blue, a very nice colour I have to say, and the interior matches. All in all, a job well done.

Thanks again everyone x

Recommendations needed please. UPDATE - badbusdriver

Excellent news!.

And the i10 is a fantastic little car, it always comes out around the top of any group tests of city cars.

Recommendations needed please. UPDATE - SLO76
An excellent little first car and well done to him for all his effort, I hope he’ll be on here soon looking for advice on his first £30,000 exec or hot hatch.
Recommendations needed please. UPDATE - Leif
Lucky lad, it’s a nice little car.
Recommendations needed please. UPDATE - Happy Blue!

We have an i10 in our small company fleet. Badly driven by someone with no mechanical knowledge or sympathy. It survives very well. I used it last year to do over 180 miles in one day and I really enjoyed it. I hope he does also.

Recommendations needed please. UPDATE - primus 1
My sons girlfriend has an i10. and she loves it..hope it serves him well, and congrats to him for his degree..
Recommendations needed please. UPDATE - Jacqueline Fowler

So far so good. He loves it and it flew through its first MOT test. (Provided free from the garage we bought it from, nice touch.) Just one question. When he is driving it (and I am a passenger eek!) the steering looks very loose to me, like he seems to be constantly over correcting. Is this the car's steering or could he just overcompensating as comparatively new driver. I don't want to mention for fear of knocking his 'new driver' confidence. Having never driven the car it's hard to tell.

Recommendations needed please. UPDATE - galileo

So far so good. He loves it and it flew through its first MOT test. (Provided free from the garage we bought it from, nice touch.) Just one question. When he is driving it (and I am a passenger eek!) the steering looks very loose to me, like he seems to be constantly over correcting. Is this the car's steering or could he just overcompensating as comparatively new driver. I don't want to mention for fear of knocking his 'new driver' confidence. Having never driven the car it's hard to tell.

I have had an i10 as a courtesy car, the steering seemed fine to me. I presume the tyres are good and the pressures as per handbook recommendations?

Recommendations needed please. UPDATE - Avant

If it got through its MoT, there shouldn't be too much wrong with the steering. He may well be over-correcting - but have a go in it yourself. It's always a good idea to be a named driver on his insurance policy.

 

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