Do you have a minute to answer an electric vehicle survey? Start the survey | No thanks
Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - TR7
I am looking at buying a 2013 Skoda Superb 2.0 diesel dsg. I believe this engine may require a recall for software update. I am worried about the residual value being affected. I know they are good cars but don't want to be left with a poor resale value. Am I worrying ove nothing?
Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - balleballe

The recall will do one of two things (or possibly both). It will reduce economy or reduce performance.

I wouldn't buy one until there was some real world feedback with the effect the 'recall' has

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - daveyK_UK

I wouldnt buy one because

1. the 2.0 diesel is not the most reliable long term

2. the DSG box is prone to failure

3. the old shaoe Superb (a 13 plate will be the old shape now) has a fair few common component failures

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - gordonbennet

As above i wouldn't buy one until its had any recall work completed and you can test drive the car and judge it for yourself, or you could buy it and refuse to have the recall work done which might arguably affect any makers warranty left.

dsg box, again not for me, the problem with used is you don't know how or where it was driven, it might have had an easy life on open motorways or it might have performed hundreds of thousands of changes in heavy traffic over the two years.

It might be worth finding out of these suffer with EGR problems as Golf, its an expensive job on a Golf and little or no help from the maker as expected.

If its a steal and you decide to buy, it might be worth getting the gearbox oil changed and to service the engine more often than the schedule recommends to get the best out of it, but good servicing applies to any car you buy.

I don't think the used values will be affected long term unless after recall they end up with endless turbo lag and severely reduced power coupled with worse economy, i suspect that a vociferous minority of current owners are pushing for some sort of compo or other sweeteners.

Amusing to see someone other than Toyota subject to bad press for a change.

Edited by gordonbennet on 08/11/2015 at 07:10

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - TR7
Thanks for the advice. It's what I thought best left alone until more information is available.
Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - barney100

Perhaps best to leave buying a VW group car at the moment as no one has much idea how they will be affected by the affair. Only had one VW, a 2007 Polo bought new and it was a v good car.

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - 72 dudes

Well, maybe.

I've heard rumours from inside a Skoda dealership (and they are only rumours at this stage) that VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda are looking into buying back all affected cars for the price paid - new or used.

It sounds highly unlikely but if this does go ahead, it would be early next year.

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - Alby Back
Wouldn't go near a VAG car fitted with a DSG box. Two of our company cars ( one Golf and one Passat ) have had DSG failures. I was also in an Audi A6 taxi in Denmark this week which was playing up a bit and the driver was cursing the auto box saying it had already been replaced once but felt like it was going again.

Barge pole terrtory as far as I'm concerned.
Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - Cyd

I will probably replace my Saab Aero with a Octavia VRS, but it will be petrol. I despise diesels, dirty poluting things - its what your recirc button is for when you're behind one.

And wouldn't touch a DSG with a barge pole second hand. Manual every time (or proper auto).

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - brum

One thing is sure, all affected cars, and now its seems maybe even every model they've produced in recent years (see other thread where vw engineers have finally admitted cheating co2 tests), will be retested and reclassified. Its likely many models will jump at least one band higher in ved. Vw are offering to pay the difference directly to the government but I think that will be only for historic useage. The owner may be required to pay a future hike in ved.

There is talk in the financial press that VW will cease to exist in its present form.

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - daveyK_UK

if this is the case, I will be angry with VAG as I recently purchased 2 Skoda Rapids.

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - Calmore

Right at the beginning of this scandal I mentioned to a lot of people that I considered VW would cease to exist in its current form and would be broken up and I got laughed at!

The problem is it's not only the cost of fines and repairs that will impact VW, but the loss of reputation that will kill them.

Most of their engines were, at best, questionable and I think this destroys what reputation they had left.

Edited by Calmore on 12/11/2015 at 10:53

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - Calmore

As others have said the car will likely be affected by the recall work done. At the very least you'll be looking at having to fork out for having the AdBlue topped up.

However, I would still consider buying IF the price was good.

One other thing to consider is that your insurance might be invalidated if you don't have the manufacturer recommended recalls carried out..

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - slkfanboy

>As others have said the car will likely be affected by the recall work done. At the very >least you'll be looking at having to fork out for having the AdBlue topped up.

It's very unlikely this will happen, even if it was feasable which is questionable. Owners will mostlikely have to suffer in the UK with lower MPG's and shorter engine life to add to the other problems rusty sills ho and don't meantion the DPF.


Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - drd63

As others have said, there could be issues with economy, performance or reliability post recall let alone resale values. Irrespective of all the above I wouldn't buy a VAG product as there is nothing in their admittedly extensive range which isn't available from another manufacturer in a subjectively better package.

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - DirtyDieselDogg

Meh!

I would buy, a VW, SKODA, SEAT, AUDI if the price was right, stupidly right, and then have fettled by a local Indy, if desired.

They are generally not bad cars.

However since our SDP Van with the 1998 vintage 120BHP Sprinter engine factory fitted is about to go back on the road, not in the least concerned.

Bullet proof technology and build quality every which way.

Bring it on!

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - slkfanboy

>Bullet proof technology and build quality every which way.

Car Warranty Direct do a reliability index which is highly regarded in the industry. This has shown VW slide down the index from the 90's high when such a statement would be regarded as true. Skoda is the one exception oddly near as reliable as a ford which sadly lags behind any from Japan basically!

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - ike2

Irrespective of all the above I wouldn't buy a VAG product as there is nothing in their admittedly extensive range which isn't available from another manufacturer in a subjectively better package.

In that case, please can you advise me what to consider instead of a Skoda Yeti 1.2 TSi DSG? I want the higher driving position and don't do that many miles so the small petrol engine is ideal for my needs. (I have had VW DSG's before and am not worried about their widely reported problems).

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - Avant

There's no reason not to buy a petrol Yeti. The only petrol engine caught up in the VW Group's stupid reluctance to be honest with their customers appears to be the 1.4 ACT - and even then it seems to be a matter of inaccurate measurement (or reporting) of carbon emissions rather than any adjustment being needed to the engines themselves.

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - Big John

" add to the other problems rusty sills"


Rusty Sills?

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - lordwoody

My Polo (59 reg, new shape) has just been into the bodyshop to have rusty sills on both sides repaired under warranty. The body shop tell me what I knew already, when this happens the rust will reappear eventually so goodbye Polo, within the next few months. ( and obviously, no more VW for me)

Edited by lordwoody on 15/11/2015 at 10:59

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - gordonbennet

no no no you've got it all wrong, people who never venture underneath a car will tell you rust is a thing of the past.

Mind you even for VW's cavalier attiitude to quality and standing by their product, rusting sills on a 59 plate car is pretty poor.

This fiasco might just serve to educate at least two generations of consumers, who have blindly bought all sorts of products purely because of the name or badge, for some perceived kudos? from clothes (where you have someone else boldly embossed which is bizarre) to cars, even lorries are bought for image.

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - corax

even lorries are bought for image.

Wow. I have no knowledge of the lorry world gb, care to tell me which makes are bought for kudos in the yard?

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - gordonbennet

Its usually the top range motors from Volvo Scania Mercedes and to a less extent MAN, many companies who operate trunking operations where huge top range sleeper cabs are not required still specify them, in some cases it makes financial sense if the vehicles are on a fast turn around contract hire/lease basis as the higher spec can be easier to shift on used so they get a better deal.

Cynically the canny operator (some big names involved here) has found that they can pay poor money and still get drivers to work all hours God sends if the lorry has enough desireability, the opposite is also true to some extent.

You'd be amazed at the costs of some of the higher spec motors by the time all the bling has been added, max BHP's going up to around 750hp which is a bit silly when all you can do is a max 55 mph.

Where i work its a different scene altogther, basically smart modern nothing under 5 years old but fastidiously clean inside and out being all food carried, we run maximum weights due to product and weight is critical, hence smaller cabs, still sleepers though not needed because there is no resale market for day cabs after the 5 year lease is up so makers reluctant to supply them (fuel tankers the exception), even though day cabs with windows all round are better for getting into some of the places we have to go.

We run lighter smaller cabs generally with small mid lift axles and all running alloy wheels all helps to keep the tare weight down...or more accurately i should say it means we can carry a genuine 28 ton load and still be around a ton under the max 44t, so less chance of a single axle being overloaded as well as the overall top weight being easy to stay within...we load out of overhead silos on our own weighbridges, so pulling halfway off the bridge to double check the trailer has the right weight spread is a 30 second job as we leave, all helps to keep things right.

Just out of interest, with our overhead silos we can load 28 tons of product into the tank in 3 minutes flat, you wouldn't want to be inside..:-)

Edited by gordonbennet on 15/11/2015 at 12:19

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - corax

You'd be amazed at the costs of some of the higher spec motors by the time all the bling has been added, max BHP's going up to around 750hp which is a bit silly when all you can do is a max 55 mph.

It would drive me up the wall to drive at that limit all the time. It's created problems with drivers taking hours to overtake each other with the speed difference being so negligible.

Some years back before all the speed restrictions came in, I was followed on the A66 by an HGV tractor unit without the load. I was keeping up a respectable speed, but even on the slower bendier section he was catching me up, suddenly appearing over the brow of a hill and bearing down on me - quite intimidating. I felt like I was in the film Duel :)

Skoda superb - Would you buy Vag group vehicle? - gordonbennet

Might surprise you to know i now cruise at about 51mph (82k's) when at work, keeps me out of the bunching and tailgating which as you rightly point out has been one of the worse results of speed limiters together with snail racing, also means if i come up behind a slower vehicle, which isn't often, i have a good 5mph to play with to overtake, as a bonus when driven in manual override (the automated manual gearbox isn't up to much left to its own thing) that cruising speed and letting it lug sees better economy and smoother progress than pure auto can provide.

Years go, hmm yes there were some flyers about, i had a Cummins engined lorry that cruised at 70mph @ 1100rpm all day long, hows that for gearing (it was governed to 1800 rpm, i haven't done the maths), after that i had an MAN regd in 86 that would actually cruise at 95, not as the tacho would record that speed if you did it.

Mind MAN's were tough rugged machines in those days and before, virtually unbreakable, unlike today and part of VW just to keep the thread on track.

 

Value my car