Mitsubishi Shogun Pinin 2003 - 3 star NCAP rating on a 2003 model - samsurrey

Hi all,

I am considering buying a mitsubishi pinin (2003) seems goid value and fit for what I need. I have seen that it only got a 3 star safety rating by ncap. All reviews I have read don't seem to think this is a negative, but I would have thought 4 stars would be a minimum ... I have 2 children and won't be purchasing something that wasn't as safe as it's rivals. Am I missing something? Was 3 stars standard around that time?

Thanks in advance.

Sam

Mitsubishi Shogun Pinin 2003 - 3 star NCAP rating on a 2003 model - Manatee

One thing to keep in mind is that the NCAP ratings can only be directly compared between similar vehicles. So a 3 star Ford Ka for example may not be as safe overall as a larger car with the same rating.

Compare with other cars in the same group - a Freelander at that age was also a 3 star car, the CRV (Mk2) 4 stars - etc.

Mitsubishi Shogun Pinin 2003 - 3 star NCAP rating on a 2003 model - RT

You need to look beyond the overall result - visit the NCAP website and look at the detailed score - many cars lose a star because they're less friendly to pedestrians, so nothing to do with protecting occupants - others lose a star for some feature not standard which wasn't generally standard at that price point anyway.

Mitsubishi Shogun Pinin 2003 - 3 star NCAP rating on a 2003 model - madf

An NCAP rating refers to new cars only. A 12 year old car is likely to be less safe due to wear, corrosion and abuse of seatbelts etc...and failure of untested electricl safety items (only tested when used once).

Mitsubishi Shogun Pinin 2003 - 3 star NCAP rating on a 2003 model - Engineer Andy

Didn't NCAP also change how they rated cars (made the tests more stringent), i.e. a 3 star rating then would, say, only merit a 1 or 2 today? If not, surely by now (given year-on-year safety improvements) a car would've got 100% across the board?

PS - do you really need an off-roader/4x4 or just an MPV - there were far better cars for both purposes back then and won't be particularly expensive to buy or run if that is a major concern. For older vehicle, best to stick to ones with either proven reliability and robustness (not the Pinin it appears) and/or reasonable on that score and simple mechanicals/electrics/few gizmos to go wrong.

The Pinin as I recall was also quite hungry on the old jungle juice and likely to have a high CO2 figure (and therefore expensive to run even if it was reliable). SI would steer clear from complex cars that are expensive to fix unless you're willing to dispose of it once it requires major surgery because you bought it for peanuts.

Edited by Engineer Andy on 12/07/2015 at 14:40

Mitsubishi Shogun Pinin 2003 - 3 star NCAP rating on a 2003 model - Manatee

Didn't NCAP also change how they rated cars (made the tests more stringent), i.e. a 3 star rating then would, say, only merit a 1 or 2 today? If not, surely by now (given year-on-year safety improvements) a car would've got 100% across the board?

There was a change from 2009 which is explained on the EuroNCAP website.

Incidentally the pedestrian safety rating wouldn't affect the overall rating pre-2009, when there was a separate rating for occupants and pedestrians.

The only comment I have seen on comparing pre and post 2009 ratings is that they can't be compared.

A Pinin wouldn't be top of my list but we don't know the circs - the OP may have an option on a known good car at a good price (within the family for example).

If I was carting small children I would be looking for something with isofix mounts regardless of other attributes.