BMW 3 Series - Paint Job - Dealer or Indy - Dingle232

The bonnet on my car is quite badly marked and I want to get a proper job done on it for a full respray. I have been quoted £760 by BMW and £250 by a local independent - that's quite a difference.

I know that standards vary and that nobody on here knows whether the independent in question is quality or not but is there likely to be such a variance in the quality of a paint job between an independent and a dealer?

Or is it just the usual BMW 'badge' costs?

BMW 3 Series - Paint Job - Dealer or Indy - gordonbennet

Have a look at the work the indy has kicking about, if he's reluctant to show you then you have your answer, if his attitude to you wanting to see examples of his work is questionable then imagine what it will be like if you're disatisfied.

I have a one man and his dog business do all my cars bodywork, and that of my family too, no complaints, very helpful and reasonably priced.

I'm not paying for referral fees, managers, receptionists, courtesy cars, 'free' coffee, fancy offices and that suits me fine.

No guarantees that the most expensive quote will see a better job done, remember it probably won't be just the bonnet, they will probably have to fade the new paintwork into the wings too.

Edited by gordonbennet on 05/05/2015 at 17:17

BMW 3 Series - Paint Job - Dealer or Indy - skidpan

Very few main dealers have their own body shops these days. They usually farm out the work and its obvious they will use the most competitive places and then add on a substancial percentage.

Speak to friend, colleagues people on the street and find out about good and bad experiences. For what its worth we had a really good job done some years ago by a local VW/Volvo paint shop and then we had a totally rubbish job done by a local indy with a good reputation. The next time we used the Ford garages body shop who made a total mess and when I went back to complain I had to join a queue of people who were there for the exact same reason. Last time was when dads car went in and we used the insurers body shop who were Car Care Clinic. The car is silver and its a perfect match which looking round is pretty unusual on a silver car.

BMW 3 Series - Paint Job - Dealer or Indy - jgrahampo

our best local body repair place is a family business, been going 20 years or more in an old remote farm yard.

Do a b***** good job and all legit.

BMW 3 Series - Paint Job - Dealer or Indy - slkfanboy

Agree with above a good shop these days does need ovens and a sealed spay area. Therefore small back street work shop often dont have the kit.

BMW 3 Series - Paint Job - Dealer or Indy - Dingle232

In a further development a second BMW dealer today quoted me £220 for the same job. That's £540 cheaper than the first dealership and also cheaper than the Indy!!

Needless to say I am going to go with that but also ask the question of the first dealership how on earth they can justify such a difference. Paint is paint and time is time.

I know that car sales/aftersales is a money making exercise and I accept that but such blatant profiteering and rip off mentality just gets my goat.

BMW 3 Series - Paint Job - Dealer or Indy - Andrew-T

Very few main dealers have their own body shops these days. They usually farm out the work ...

Right on, Skidpan. Main dealers are not specialists in bodywork or paint jobs, or even fitting aftermarket sunroofs, like mine 20 years ago. Pug dealer wanted £150, backstreet specialist £100. Never leaked.

Bodyshops often mix their own paint using a matching system, though I suppose they might buy in OEM paint at a price. Use a place that has been trading for a reasonably long time.

Your first dealer asking £760 either didn't want the job, or thought you might be a soft touch.

Edited by Andrew-T on 06/05/2015 at 11:23

BMW 3 Series - Paint Job - Dealer or Indy - Wackyracer

Most bodyshops use either ICI or DuPont paint systems and mix it to a recipe they are provided with to obtain the desired colour.

The size of a bodyshop is not relevant to the quality of the job. Talking to the staff at a bodyshop can quickly give you an idea of the work they are likely to produce. If they are talkative and helpful, you have a good chance they will do a good job. If they are the kind that ignore your questions and treat you like an idiot then they are not the company to use.

The company I use, the first time I went there the owner showed me some of their work and took me in the paint mixing room to show me colour swatches. He then used a fine cutting compound to clean an area of the car and we both matched the colour of the car to the paint swatches to make sure I would be happy with the finish.

BMW 3 Series - Paint Job - Dealer or Indy - skidpan

He then used a fine cutting compound to clean an area of the car and we both matched the colour of the car to the paint swatches to make sure I would be happy with the finish.

Very, very risky. If the colour had been a poor match guess who the body shop man would have blamed.

Any professional should be able to match colours without help form the owner./

BMW 3 Series - Paint Job - Dealer or Indy - Wackyracer

He then used a fine cutting compound to clean an area of the car and we both matched the colour of the car to the paint swatches to make sure I would be happy with the finish.

Very, very risky. If the colour had been a poor match guess who the body shop man would have blamed.

Any professional should be able to match colours without help form the owner./

Not at all risky. He had already offered that if we chose different shades and the shade he chose was wrong he would re spray it for free.

BMW 3 Series - Paint Job - Dealer or Indy - Andrew-T

The company I use, the first time I went there the owner showed me some of their work and took me in the paint mixing room to show me colour swatches. He then used a fine cutting compound to clean an area of the car and we both matched the colour of the car to the paint swatches to make sure I would be happy with the finish.

Yes, I have been behind the scenes and seen swatches - hundreds of them. I'm not impressed by the swatch's resemblance to the finished product, but if the paint code is correct for the car's model and year, the result always seems pretty good to me.

BMW 3 Series - Paint Job - Dealer or Indy - Wackyracer

Yes, I have been behind the scenes and seen swatches - hundreds of them. I'm not impressed by the swatch's resemblance to the finished product, but if the paint code is correct for the car's model and year, the result always seems pretty good to me.

When I say swatches, I mean paint sprayout cards which are sprayed with paint that has been mixed up there in the bodyshops own paint mixing room.

Paint codes alone will not give you an exact match, There will be at least 3 shade variations for a paint code. This is the reason I had my car resprayed again, Because the Citroen dealers bodyshop thought that black only came in one shade. When I went to this small bodyshop he had already done sprayouts of Onyx black for previous work and had the sprayout cards in his files.

I've done alot of body repair and spraying in my younger days so I do know a thing or 2 about painting cars.

 

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