Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - oldroverboy.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566630/Council-b...l

So Which bright spark had the idea of painting the lines on the space outside this mans home because he got a ticket cancelled?

Edited by oldroverboy. on 25/02/2014 at 06:28

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - alan1302

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566630/Council-b...l

So Which bright spark had the idea of painting the lines on the space outside this mans home because he got a ticket cancelled?

I don't think they did.

Eeading the article shows that the lines were wrong to start with which is why he got let off the original fine. then the council had to correct them but made a mess of it so had to have a 2nd go at it.

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - Snakey

Councils are a law unto themselves these days so it wouldn't suprise me! And they hate motorists without exception across the country so any chance to get a dig in or extort some cash and most councils will jump at it.

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - RT

Councils are a law unto themselves these days so it wouldn't suprise me! And they hate motorists without exception across the country so any chance to get a dig in or extort some cash and most councils will jump at it.

The problem with councils is that councillors and administrators get involved - that's why you get so much road signage that's wrong, or plain illegal in some cases.

If parliament hasn't legislated how local councils want, some of them just pretend they have!

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - madf

Councils are a law unto themselves these days so it wouldn't suprise me! And they hate motorists without exception across the country so any chance to get a dig in or extort some cash and most councils will jump at it.

The problem with councils is that councillors and administrators get involved - that's why you get so much road signage that's wrong, or plain illegal in some cases.

If parliament hasn't legislated how local councils want, some of them just pretend they have!

Stoke on Trent think "more is better" applies to signs.

There is a classic road sign outside our small town.

It says "Slow" (with no apparent reason)

and 50 meters further on , there is a sign raising the speed limit from 30 to 40mph..

I think the Traffic Departments just spend their budget - Period.. Any idea of saving money is frowned on so at year end.. "Spare money? Spend it on road signs"

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - Andrew-T

And they hate motorists without exception across the country so any chance to get a dig in or extort some cash and most councils will jump at it.

No they don't - that's just a rant. They only hate the big lumps of metal that drivers leave lying about in inconvenient places. As the only punishment they can inflict is in the wallet, that is how they try to persuade us to behave. If there is less parking space than the vehicles wanting to use it, the rates go up. Simple.

What would you do?

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - Ben 10

Looking at the design of the house, it looks to me, that this is the rear of the property, and if he parked in the spot originally dedicated as a bay, he would be causing an obstruction on the roadway with the parked cars on the opposite side. So I think in this case the council was right to prevent parking.

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - galileo

Our local council agreed to knock down a sports centre to make space for a Tesco.

Thee old sports centre has a pay-and-display car park next to it.

The new sports centre is built on a former pay-and-display car park for 250 cars. These 250 spaces have not been replaced. The nearest car park is chock full every day already.

The council obviously hope sports centre users will run, walk or cycle there or use buses. Joined up thinking or simple anti-car policy?

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - Snakey

Rant or not it plainly obvious to anyone who drives these days that council have an anti-car agenda, tempered with their need to grab money.

An example here is my council let Tesco build a big supermarket on an old fairly quiet industrial estate; result - traffic problems. Councils reponse? Let Asda build another supermarket 200 yards down the road. Ker-ching! and even more traffic problems.

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - alan1302

Rant or not it plainly obvious to anyone who drives these days that council have an anti-car agenda, tempered with their need to grab money.

An example here is my council let Tesco build a big supermarket on an old fairly quiet industrial estate; result - traffic problems. Councils reponse? Let Asda build another supermarket 200 yards down the road. Ker-ching! and even more traffic problems.

That doesn't mean they are 'anti car' though - just means they want some cash for the land.

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - Ed V

Why has HJ turned into a depository for Daily Mail website rants? I'm sure that you can "share" on FB or Google mail if you're really keen for others to read what you are!

I'd stick to the DT if I were you - it's better for your heart. Better still, take the dogs out...

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - oldroverboy.

Why has HJ turned into a depository for Daily Mail website rants? I'm sure that you can "share" on FB or Google mail if you're really keen for others to read what you are!

I'd stick to the DT if I were you - it's better for your heart. Better still, take the dogs out...

Dear Ed,

Oh dear, I take it you don't like thr DM, too many words. not enough pics? Myself and others post from a variety of sources. as it happens i read about 3 daily papers and if it is interesting (at least to me) i'll post it.

that's why it's called a forum.

Have a nice day

ps don't do facebook/google+ or others, Do you?

Edited by oldroverboy. on 26/02/2014 at 17:18

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - quizman

When I started reading this post I was waiting for the customary anti Daily Mail rant. It happens on most sites! Very funny ha ha LOL.

The councils ruin town centres with their anti car parking plans. Since they have reduced the free parking and 40p for 20 minutes, Uttoxeter town centre is a mass of "for let" signs. In France they possitively encourage motorists to come into town and park free, the result is there are plenty of shops open.

It will soon get to the stage where you won't be able to park outside the newsagents and buy a copy of the Daily Mail. What is the country getting to?!

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - galileo

The councils ruin town centres with their anti car parking plans. Since they have reduced the free parking and 40p for 20 minutes, Uttoxeter town centre is a mass of "for let" signs. In France they possitively encourage motorists to come into town and park free, the result is there are plenty of shops open.

In fairness, I should point out that Barnsley Council have the wisdom to make their fine large car parks free on Saturdays and Sundays, which few nearby councils do. (No doubt some will say "who'd want to go to Barnsley anyway?", I should point out the inhabitants don't all wear cloth caps and have whippets these days, they have electric light and even computer shops.)

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - alan1302

(No doubt some will say "who'd want to go to Barnsley anyway?", I should point out the inhabitants don't all wear cloth caps and have whippets these days, they have electric light and even computer shops.)

I like Barnsley! :-)

I din't know that they were free on a Saturday as well - I know they are on a Sunday as I've used them in the past.

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - Andrew-T

result - traffic problems .... and even more traffic problems.

We are all motorists on here, so we are all part of the problem because we try to take our cars everywhere whenever we like. Americans have done that longer than we have, but they have the advantage of lots more space.

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - Avant

It's very helpful when people like ORB and Trilogy find something interesting and motoring-related in a paper and take the trouble to share it with us - indeed, one of the benefits of a forum.

If you don't like the paper that's being quoted - don't click on the link.

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - daveyK_UK

Avant is correct.

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - jamie745

No they don't - that's just a rant. They only hate the big lumps of metal that drivers leave lying about in inconvenient places. As the only punishment they can inflict is in the wallet, that is how they try to persuade us to behave. If there is less parking space than the vehicles wanting to use it, the rates go up. Simple.

It's not just a rant, it is actually fact and I'm talking generally, not specifically about this story.

Councils have spent the last 20 years doing their best to stop people using cars, but at the same time they still expect the high street shops to be full of people spending money. I'm sorry but you can't have both of them. The vast majority of solvent adults with money - ie, the people you want in your shops - own a car.

I'm ignoring London because it's practically a different planet and barely part of Britain anymore, I live in the real world in the East of England where Councils have done their best to limit car use. Over the last 10 years, they've pedestrianised two major town roads and paved over another with a 'shared space' near where I live. The Council themselves claim it's to deter car use. They want us all on bicycles, on the bus and frequenting Holland & Barrett as we all live exactly how they want us to.

Obviously the result is more shops have shut as people either go elsewhere, buy it online or don't bother. If it's not shutting roadspace then it's limiting parking. If it's not limiting parking then it's hiding the parking restriction signs 150 yards down the road to help them ticket more people. There's several other tricks they employ as well so they have no right to complain about empty shops.

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - Snakey

Durham council epitomise this - one end of the city centre (the old centre) is a derelict ghost town with nothing but pound shops, the other end (the 'new' bit) has the new shops in.

Thats because they shut the 6 car parks that were dotted around the city, and opened one with in the new end with a new shopping centre. And now all the traffic is stuck at that point on a weekend.

Why not renovate the old part? Instead they simply took all the parking away. I used to pop in to the city at weekends for small bits of shopping, now I don't bother as the only car park is a) expensive b) has spaces that are small enough to make a g-Whizz driver sweat and c) have queues to get in and out every weekend. I simply go to the out of town places now or mail order the rest.

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - oldroverboy.

Here in sunny west wales (at least at 12.20) we have plenty of 30 minutes free, plenty of short stay cheap and plenty of long stay cheap, and for those who really want to splash out, the multistory in the new shoping centre.

Anywhere else where i can't park reasonably does not get my money.

Jamie got it right.

PS are you dry yet jamie?

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - concrete

Nothing like the combination of Parking and the Daily Mail to stir things up. Oh how I have missed it. Well here is my tuppence worth. I agree that most councils seem anti-car. For what reason I don't know. The car is an essential transport mode for lots of people and a great cash cow for councils. So why bite hand that feeds you? Ridiculous attitude. I visit town and city centres on business and I need to park. Luckily, most councils are greedy and the price has forced people out and left me with a choice of parking places. However local business suffers, where is the logic. Some councils like Barnsley try and help and Middlesbrough council offer 2 hours free parking in a centre multi-storey car park. Not a bad effort to encourage shoppers etc. It would not be so bad if there was a national policy. Part of the irritation lies in the differing approach made by each individual council. It is as if they want to catch out strangers and visitors to their towns. Madness. I would vote for HJ to head up a national parking policy board. At least would have some consistency along with common sense. Now that would be worth paying for. Cheers Concrete

Daily Mail: Parking - And who says councils are not vindictive - Smileyman

sensible decision - otherwise the home owner should have stood for council in the same ward as the present leader with an agenda to ensure the leader lost his / her seat