Subaru Legacy - Subaru Legacy (Used). Inspection of Used Car?... - NiceEstateBuyer

Hi,

Seeking knowledge;

What do I need to look out for in particular when buying a used, 2005+ 75,000miles+ Legacy Sports Tourer? Rust, noises, tell-tale signs etc. Any help very warmly welcomed (I am already trawling through this and other sites taking notes). I have a degree of mechanical common sense but I could easily miss an easy tell-tale issue/evidence.

(I'm in the market to buy a practical estate that is fun the drive with direct handling and a degree of poke. Having just blown up a Passat I don't want anything dull. The Subaru Legacy 2.5 Sports Tourer has kind of grabbed me. Or a 3series or A4. Not in consideration; Saab, Volvo, Lexus, Honda, Mazda, Skoda...).

Many thanks.

Subaru Legacy - Subaru Legacy (Used). Inspection of Used Car?... - Happy Blue!

My experience of a 2005 Outback was three years of supreme reliability. Bullet proof mechanicals, robust trim and accessories. I took mine from 22000 miles to 55000 with the only repair being a washer bottle cleaned out of algae.

Subaru Legacy - Subaru Legacy (Used). Inspection of Used Car?... - RT

I had a 2.5 automatic 2006 Subaru Outback (Legacy Estate on stilts) with zero issues other than fuel cost (28 mpg) and the extra cost of frequent fluid changes.

Sadly It didn't get past 40,000 miles as I parked it round a tree - we walked away so I can vouch for it's structural strength.

Subaru Legacy - Subaru Legacy (Used). Inspection of Used Car?... - nick62

I had a 55 plate 2.0R (fitted with the later 4 cam engine) for approx. three years and took it from 12k to 55k miles in that time.

Fantastic handling and the only problem (seems common) was a chocolate clutch which the dealer replaced under warranty (yes, a clutch under warranty)! Otherwise no issues.

The only gripe is on that particular model, the engine needs to be revved if you want some torque, (but I understand Subaru re-tuned later versions for better low-down torque)?

Mainly motorway cruising returning ~34 to 38mpg.

BTW, in almost 40 years of motorcycling/motoring, this is the only time I have ever had to have a clutch changed.

I would love to run a Spec. B, but the economics just don't add up, what a pity!

Subaru Legacy - Subaru Legacy (Used). Inspection of Used Car?... - davros

Ah - that's my car you're looking for!

I have a 2005, 78,000 mile 2.5 Legacy automatic tourer (ex Subaru management car) and have no desire for anything else (I can live with the fuel consumption because I only drive 5K p/a).

1. Ensure that the cam belt was changed at 60,000 or so, along with all the diff. fluids and the auto box fluid. That's a £500+ service. Make sure you see the receipt.

2. Suspension issues. Clonking front suspension (you’ll hear it and feel it through the wheel) is common and means that the drop links / roll-bar mounts need changing. That's not expensive if you get the bits from Japanese Import Car parts. Subaru dealers are pricey! Work can be done by any competent mechanic - they're simple cars to work on.

My car has lived a very rural life. I've replaced both of these with uprated ones and may need to do a few more mounting bits in the near future.- see this for details on the Legacy Forum (tinyurl.com/p8qd8u – lots of useful info there). Front ball joints are another weak point.

3. Uneven tyre wear is common – check the inside of the tyres. The standard-fit Bridgestones are expensive and not good in the winter (I run winter tyres from Nov – March, but I need them where I am).

4. I’ve had a new rear exhaust – forget Subaru for that, they want crazy money. Either get a stainless one made by a specialist or – as I did – source the bits in Germany (via ebay) for 20% of the price Subaru were asking.

5. Make sure that the locking wheel nut key is with the car! And check that it’s the right key for your car.

6. The LCD display in the middle of the dash (temperature, time etc) goes and replacements cost ££. Awkward to fix (involves re-soldering tiny parts). I can live without mine.

7. Stereo is very average. No iPod connector on the older (2005) models

8. Interior lighting is rubbish if you have an SE spec with the big sunroof.

Can’t comment about clutches because I don’t do manual boxes.

I’m still on the original aircon gas - changed the original battery in the winter of 2011. Pollen filters cost a fiver every couple of years. Tyres are a bit pricey . They don’t rust . . . other than that . . .

I would say, however, that if you’ve got teenage kids, the Legacy may be a bit small – its an old platform and narrower than many modern cars. Rear leg room isn’t the best. Having said that, there’s more room than an A4 or 3-series (MUCH more load space).

Drive a hard bargain - big petrol engined estates aren't exactly flavour of the month, are they . . .

I love mine and honestly don't know what could replace it.

Davros

Subaru Legacy - Subaru Legacy (Used). Inspection of Used Car?... - NiceEstateBuyer

Hi all. Many thanks for your replies. Especially Davros - that was exactly the info I was after. Cheers for now.

Subaru Legacy - Subaru Legacy (Used). Inspection of Used Car?... - madf

Rust at rear - and the subbrames is common.

Subaru Legacy - Subaru Legacy (Used). Inspection of Used Car?... - NiceEstateBuyer

Hi.

Luckily I managed to track the 1 former owner of this 2.5L SE blue Legacy Sports Tourer I saw today; he was super useful. He said he loved his car but had to near scrap it as it was diagnosed with probable big clutch/drive train issues at 97K. On my 2nd visit the dealer that the car's ended up with were in complete denial of the faults, no receipts for the work were procurred and they insisted there wasn't a problem. And they have jacked the price up from their buy in price by a factor of x16 . Shocking! I feel very sorry for who ever is going to buy it, as someone might not notice the defect on a small test drive. On a plus side for Subaru though the chap went on to buy another one as replacement to this, and I intend to carry on my search for a Legacy.

Subaru Legacy - Subaru Legacy (Used). Inspection of Used Car?... - Happy Blue!

"I would say, however, that if you’ve got teenage kids, the Legacy may be a bit small – its an old platform and narrower than many modern cars. Rear leg room isn’t the best. Having said that, there’s more room than an A4 or 3-series (MUCH more load space)."

And that is the ONLY reason I swapped from my Outback to my S-Max. Otherwise four years later it would probably still be on my drive.

Subaru Legacy - Subaru Legacy (Used). Inspection of Used Car?... - RT

"I would say, however, that if you’ve got teenage kids, the Legacy may be a bit small – its an old platform and narrower than many modern cars. Rear leg room isn’t the best. Having said that, there’s more room than an A4 or 3-series (MUCH more load space)."

And that is the ONLY reason I swapped from my Outback to my S-Max. Otherwise four years later it would probably still be on my drive.

Up to 2008, the Legacy and Outback were cramped, narrow and short on front/rear legroom - but the current model from 2009 is bigger in all directions internally.

I recently test drove the new diesel automatic - there's no evidence of any of the usual CVT criticisms as it drives just like the old 4EAT slushbox but without any gaps in gear ratios!

Subaru Legacy - Subaru Legacy (Used). Inspection of Used Car?... - APV
Hi there,
Davros is spot on.
I have a 55 plate 2.0 SE manual which now is at 111k. Owned from new. Totally reliable.
Find a good independent to service it; franchised dealers are expensive.
Always put fully synthetic oil in. Mine has, and runs better today than it did with 1000 miles on. It never smokes at any time.
Clutch can judder when hot.
I have spare set of wheels with Nokian winter tyres. Car is completely invincible on them in truly awful winter conditions. Highly recommended.
Fuel economy; 32mpg in mixed driving.
Mine hasn't rusted at all, anywhere. Car has an awful lot of protection underneath. Some of upper bodywork is aluminium.
Still on original exhaust. New battery at 100k.
Side light bulbs at the front a complete pain to change.
Handles beautifully. Borrowed a 3 series and considered it inferior.

Be fussy. Panel gaps should be perfect. Anything else means it has been shunted. Don't be tempted to go for something that has not had regular oil changes and the cam belt done.
Happy hunting!


Subaru Legacy - Subaru Legacy (Used). Inspection of Used Car?... - hillman

Use Davros and APV postings as a buyers guide, they both sum up the car.

I've had an Outback 2.5, '56 reg. automatic from new. Apart from wear and tear - and supermarket dings - it has been wholly adequate. To date it has done 81,000 miles and the battery has been changed because the voltage had dropped low on cranking. I didn't know that, the engine still started, but it was a planned maintenance item (better safe than stranded). The car had started to rust underneath so it has been Wayoyled, especially at the back. I did much of the work, but the Expert had to take down the protective covers and finish the work. I now leave it to him.

I've had three Subarus now, two were Legacy and one is Outback. My first Legacy was a manual; the clutch was dire and had to be replaced at 17,000 miles. Apart from that, and ruining every left shoe that I had by cracking it across the sole, the car was fine.