1996 mercedes c250 turbo diesel - auto box sport/winter settings - mrc71

hi all hope someone can help me here. after recently buying my merc' ive noticed it has a sport and what my friend said "winter mode" i'm guessing winter is for slippy conditions. do you have to have one or other switched on or can u have the switch at middle position so it does neither untill you want them?

thank you in advance

mrc71 ;)

1996 mercedes c250 turbo diesel - auto box sport/winter settings - RT

Don't know about M-B specifically but it's usual for Winter mode to exclude the lower gears, to reduce torque at the wheels, eg 3/4 only on a 4-speed autobox and Sport usually omits the overdrive gears and holds the revs further up the scale.

1996 mercedes c250 turbo diesel - auto box sport/winter settings - gordonbennet

You probably have the same standard 4 speed switchable auto as in my E Class of the same year, excellent box bombproof, so long as you change the oil every 40k or so it will outlast you.

Should have a S sport setting and E economy, i drive mine in sport all the time, in E its too reluctant to downchange and kickdown, much more pleasant drive in S.

1996 mercedes c250 turbo diesel - auto box sport/winter settings - Alby Back

That's interesting GB. I have a modern E Class diesel auto and I find it fine in "E" on the motorway and when pottering round town but it feels much better in "S" on twisty A roads or when negotiating dual carriageway roundabouts etc. Doesn't have a "W" setting but you can select an "M" setting and use the flappy paddles if feeling so inclined.

Edited by Alby Back on 30/03/2013 at 22:43

1996 mercedes c250 turbo diesel - auto box sport/winter settings - gordonbennet

Flappy Paddles and M setting?....that Alby Back has some serious wonga, flappies hadn't been dreamed up when mine was designed...:-)

Seriously though, yours probably pulls just as well in the next gear in most cases being a TD, my petrol needs to rev freely to get the best from it.

Trouble is the straight 6 petrol sets up a pleasurable growl as the revs rise higher under power, its addictive so happy to let it rev..;)

1996 mercedes c250 turbo diesel - auto box sport/winter settings - Avant

Alby is a sales director and clearly very good at his job.

I can't remember, Alby, if your German taxi is a six-cylinder or a four. I'd imagine that a six will waft along in E for a lot of the time without you wanting more from it, whereas the four I had in the (unlamented) smaller B-class needed to be in S virtually all the time to make anything like reasonable progress.

1996 mercedes c250 turbo diesel - auto box sport/winter settings - barney100
Are we sure S means sport?
1996 mercedes c250 turbo diesel - auto box sport/winter settings - gordonbennet
Are we sure S means sport?

Just looked it up in the handbook Barney, you are quite right, S standard E economy.

From the handbook :

S This is used for all driving conditions.

E The transmission shifts up and down gears at lower driving speeds and engine speeds with full throttle than in position S. The E mode provides an even more relaxed style of driving with the accent on comfort and fuel economy, and also facilitates driving on slippery roads. The E mode is automatically de-activated for as long as the accelerator is depressed in the kickdown position.

1996 mercedes c250 turbo diesel - auto box sport/winter settings - Avant

Ah - different from the B-class then. This had C (comfort) and S (sport).

1996 mercedes c250 turbo diesel - auto box sport/winter settings - barney100
My 2000 clk has the S and W, seems the thing to do is use S unless there is ice and snow around.
1996 mercedes c250 turbo diesel - auto box sport/winter settings - Alby Back

@Avant it's the 250d. I think I'm right in saying it's the same basic engine as the 200d and the 220d but in a higher state of tune at around 200bhp. I think they're all 4 pot 2.1s in the end. Goes well enough for me though !

This has been interesting though about the nomenclature of the settings. I guess I had assumed "S" was "sport" but I'm more than willing to be persuaded otherwise.

I've tried a few mpg experiments to relieve the boredom of my regular 370 mile round trip to London.

If I leave it in "E" all the way I get a trip reading of 45mpg or so. If I leave it in "S" I get the same result. Which is strangely pleasing. Having said that it's mostly motorway or crawling urban traffic so I guess it wouldn't make a lot of difference to the number of gear changes.

Like I said above, "S" feels better on the A roads, especially if likely to be overtaking, "E" seems to work very well elsewhere. Flappies are just for fun it seems or to "lock" it down on poor traction surfaces.

Edited by Alby Back on 01/04/2013 at 12:59