They are lovely cars but it’s goes against 2 of your criteria
It’s not Japanese and it’s a Tdi?
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Can't believe after all these years of recommending a Mazda to absolutely everyone you dismissed the idea of actually buying one for your self? The A4 or the 220d are the ones to go for tbh.
Crazy idea and the wife won't like it but how about a Dacia Jogger? I've driven one ( top spec, extreme?)and despite the tiny 1000cc 3 pot motor I found it a pleasant thing to drive,apparently its also available with a 1.6 duel fuel engine, handy if you can get lpg locally...
Q5 isn't a particularly nice thing to drive btw, sister had one, drive train had a few 'issues'...
Edited by paul 1963 on 23/01/2024 at 20:27
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Can't believe after all these years of recommending a Mazda to absolutely everyone you dismissed the idea of actually buying one for your self? The A4 or the 220d are the ones to go for tbh.
Crazy idea and the wife won't like it but how about a Dacia Jogger? I've driven one ( top spec, extreme?)and despite the tiny 1000cc 3 pot motor I found it a pleasant thing to drive,apparently its also available with a 1.6 duel fuel engine, handy if you can get lpg locally...
Q5 isn't a particularly nice thing to drive btw, sister had one, drive train had a few 'issues'...
I want the 66 plate A4 1.4 TSi Avant same local Audi dealer has up for £12,295 - it’s the better car to drive, and look at - cheaper too. But management has decreed that it’s too small. Petrol Mazda 6 estates in good order are surprisingly thin on the ground up here. Most are diesels… which are made from soft cheese.
Edited by SLO76 on 23/01/2024 at 20:49
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They are lovely cars but it’s goes against 2 of your criteria
It’s not Japanese and it’s a Tdi?
Yes, can’t find a good Honda CRV and the Mazda CX5 is actually quite small in the back. VAG 2.0 diesel is pretty robust and proximity of excellent VAG specialist is a reassurance. Plus SWMBO doesn’t share my love for “boring” Japanese estate cars. Commute is long enough to keep DPF content also.
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Skoda superb not an option?
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Skoda superb not an option?
Management isn’t keen, plus most seem to be DSG autos and/or up in the miles. Great cars, but finding a manual estate with sensible miles up is a challenge.
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How far are you willing to travel for a car?
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How far are you willing to travel for a car?
The issue is repairs and post purchase issues should anything go wrong. A car bought from a dealer several hundred miles away could become as huge problem if it goes wrong. A private sale however could tempt me to travel. We have had good experience with Cinch, but I am still uncomfortable with buying a car unseen despite the promised 14 day no quibble return policy.
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Seat Ateca?
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Seat Ateca?
Too small in the back.
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I have never used cinch. I figured it was a PCP style car site?
Are buying on PCP, loan or savings. I have never done PCP purely because I don’t like the idea of milage restrictions and Also the idea of constantly being locked into a finance agreement like a mobile phone has put me off.
Maybe I should consider it.
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Yeah, y’see, there are those who approach their car purchases from the primary position of what they “need”. Then there are those who do so from the perspective of what they “want”.
Sounds like Mr SLO is in the need camp and Mrs SLO is in the want one.
She will win. She just will.
Best to just roll over now and get her what she wants. Given her current situation, anything and everything will be your fault for the next 20 years anyway, so if you can swerve one of these criticisms by getting her the car she wants now it’s at least one thing that won’t count against you.
;-)))
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How about a Leon Estate or 508 SW?
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How about a Leon Estate or 508 SW?
If an A4 Estate is too small the Leon Estate would be smaller.
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My research - if correct - indicates the Leon has a larger loadspace.
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How about a Leon Estate or 508 SW?
Like the Leon, but it’s too small. Wouldn’t touch a modern Peugeot, though if they did somehow get their act together the 3008 is a nice family car. I plan on keeping it 5yrs plus, so Peugeot/Citroen/Vauxhall are all out.
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Yeah, y’see, there are those who approach their car purchases from the primary position of what they “need”. Then there are those who do so from the perspective of what they “want”.
Sounds like Mr SLO is in the need camp and Mrs SLO is in the want one.
She will win. She just will.
Best to just roll over now and get her what she wants. Given her current situation, anything and everything will be your fault for the next 20 years anyway, so if you can swerve one of these criticisms by getting her the car she wants now it’s at least one thing that won’t count against you.
;-)))
Exactly!
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Yeah, y’see, there are those who approach their car purchases from the primary position of what they “need”. Then there are those who do so from the perspective of what they “want”. Sounds like Mr SLO is in the need camp and Mrs SLO is in the want one. She will win. She just will. Best to just roll over now and get her what she wants. Given her current situation, anything and everything will be your fault for the next 20 years anyway, so if you can swerve one of these criticisms by getting her the car she wants now it’s at least one thing that won’t count against you. ;-)))
Exactly!
I suppose if SWMBO wins and the car chosen is a dud or she just doesn't like it, you can 'dine out' on "I told you so's" for many months, assuming you can afford the repercussions of both... ;-)
I presume she doesn't think the Mazda 6 is a 'boring' car, given how great at handling and good looking modern Mazdas are.
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SWMBO is a teacher and can now partake in her employers ev leasing scheme which allows leasing a car from her pretax income. A new Nissan Ariya 64kw works out at the equivalent of £310 a month post tax or £11,800 over 3yrs. It would save £1500-£2000 on fuel a year, it includes servicing, tyres and insurance. It’s looking very convincing, despite my dislike of never ending PCP or leasing. A used purchase up to £16k would be cash, but in three years how much will it cost in depreciation, servicing, tyres, insurance etc etc?
Edited by SLO76 on 25/01/2024 at 04:50
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Salary Sacrifice will, most likely, affect Pension benefits.
If SWMBO is enrolled on a Final Salary, or Average Salary Pension scheme, you may want to take this into account in any "Cost-based" calculations. A near impossible task without an accurate crystal ball!
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Salary Sacrifice will, most likely, affect Pension benefits.
If SWMBO is enrolled on a Final Salary, or Average Salary Pension scheme, you may want to take this into account in any "Cost-based" calculations. A near impossible task without an accurate crystal ball!
Definitely worth double checking with the employer and getting it in writing.
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Kia Optima Sportwagon.
£16K will get you into a tidy 2018 one
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Kia Optima Sportwagon.
£16K will get you into a tidy 2018 one
Not a fan really, they also disintegrate underneath up here in our local Scottish seaside climate. Be worth £6.50 in 3yrs time.
Edited by SLO76 on 25/01/2024 at 14:55
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Basing calculations on 12k p/a the Ariya costs £318 a month or £11448 over three years. This includes insurance, servicing, tyres, road tax, mot if required and windscreen replacement if required. Fuel costs will be approximately £1500 a year less than a petrol or diesel SUV so that takes that total charge down by £4500 to less than £7,000 over three years for a new £40k electric SUV with nothing to worry about. I don’t like leasing cars, but it’s looking like a no brainer here. That on top of being very disappointed in the poor standard of almost every used car I’ve looked at to date. No one seems to look after their cars anymore. All down to leasehold and PCP being the norm on new cars I suppose. Going to look at the boot space when I get the chance to pop round to the local dealer, it’s the main weak point with the car. It’s quite small.
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If you go for an EV won't you have problems on longer runs finding working chargers? Your previous posts about the Leaf sounded as if it was only suitable for shorter distances where you didn't need to recharge away from home. You might need to hire a petrol vehicle for holidays.
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If you go for an EV won't you have problems on longer runs finding working chargers? Your previous posts about the Leaf sounded as if it was only suitable for shorter distances where you didn't need to recharge away from home. You might need to hire a petrol vehicle for holidays.
Should be easier with an Ariya, as it’s compatible with modern high speed chargers via CCS. The Leaf uses a charging cable type which is effectively out of date now and will make it increasingly hard to charge away from home.
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If you go for an EV won't you have problems on longer runs finding working chargers? Your previous posts about the Leaf sounded as if it was only suitable for shorter distances where you didn't need to recharge away from home. You might need to hire a petrol vehicle for holidays.
Beaten to it, but as said the newer car has a more readily available charging connector and the battery pack is over 50% larger than the Leaf, so on longer runs it should be more capable. As you can tell from past posts I’m not 100% sold on EV’s, but I do like much of what they offer, particularly I like the thought of not giving money to some of the worlds most appalling and violent regimes in the Middle East to fill my car up. EV’s need a major revolution in battery tech before they become mainstream, it needs to be much cheaper to build them and to replace battery packs as they age. But as a purely financial option this makes a lot of sense, even if I actually disagree with the costly state subsidy.
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The cost of new cars for those who can't or don't want tp pay cash is frightening, with as Slo says depreciation versus the cost of a PCP.
I'm happy that the Korando is comfy enough that I don't need or want to change.
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The cost of new cars for those who can't or don't want tp pay cash is frightening, with as Slo says depreciation versus the cost of a PCP.
I'm happy that the Korando is comfy enough that I don't need or want to change.
It’s mechanically simple and robust enough to keep for the longterm too.
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If you go for an EV won't you have problems on longer runs finding working chargers? Your previous posts about the Leaf sounded as if it was only suitable for shorter distances where you didn't need to recharge away from home. You might need to hire a petrol vehicle for holidays.
Beaten to it, but as said the newer car has a more readily available charging connector and the battery pack is over 50% larger than the Leaf, so on longer runs it should be more capable. As you can tell from past posts I’m not 100% sold on EV’s, but I do like much of what they offer, particularly I like the thought of not giving money to some of the worlds most appalling and violent regimes in the Middle East to fill my car up. EV’s need a major revolution in battery tech before they become mainstream, it needs to be much cheaper to build them and to replace battery packs as they age. But as a purely financial option this makes a lot of sense, even if I actually disagree with the costly state subsidy.
I'm not sure that argument over the 'fuel' stacks up, because most 'green' tech made (PV panels, wind turbines, EV batteries) that your EV uses is sourced or manufactured in China, which isn't exactly renowned for its treatment of its own citizens, and more recently, neighbours.
In addition, though perhaps not applying to those like yourself north of The Border, a good deal of the UK's electricity is produced at Drax via burning wood chips, which, despite its owner saying they are 'responsibly sourced', the NAO did not fin any evidence that they did.
In the past, they (if I recall) sourced them from the North American region, which is not exactly a green method. If I recall government advice, to be responsible, wood chips for power/heat should be sourced locally.
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You’ll note that I don’t make any green argument, in fact I’ve been critical of it on other threads. This is mostly an economic case in favour.
While the Chinese authorities aren’t exactly champions of freedom, they’re nowhere near the same levels of evil many Middle Eastern nations inflict on their own peoples, particularly women. I hate giving money to them, which really does draw me to electric cars.
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While the Chinese authorities aren’t exactly champions of freedom, they’re nowhere near the same levels of evil many Middle Eastern nations inflict on their own peoples, particularly women.
You may have been amused to read about the confrontation at St.Pancras station between some Chinese and users of the public piano there. The Chinese apparently objected to being captured on mobile phones, complaining that they were in a free country and could therefore dictate their own rules.
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Dithered, overthought it, then decided to go for it aaaaand missed them. NHS fleet had a limited supply of already registered 64kw models at a really rather good rate. I just can’t rush financial decisions however, so fate has removed it as an option. SWMBO is not best pleased.
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Dithered, overthought it, then decided to go for it aaaaand missed them. NHS fleet had a limited supply of already registered 64kw models at a really rather good rate. I just can’t rush financial decisions however, so fate has removed it as an option. SWMBO is not best pleased.
I always think what's for you won't go by you.
You obviously paused for a good reason.
The right car will appear at the right time.
Edited by groaver on 26/01/2024 at 23:16
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