All - Searching by MPG? - audi321

Hi, I know I can see the list of best ratios of quoted mpg and real life mpgs but is there a way of searching for the best real life mpgs fullstop?

In other words, I don't care about a Jaguar which does 133% of its quoted mpg, when even then it only does 30mpg! I would like to know which cars have the best real world MPG.

Can I get this information?

Thanks in advance

Edited by audi321 on 06/06/2016 at 23:26

All - Searching by MPG? - Avant

Click on Real MPG in the headings above (top line of the screen). You'll see an average of mpg readings submitted by users of the site.

Obviously we can't guarantee that they have submitted proper brim-to-brim readings rather than jiust look at their trip computers, but the results are much more realistic than the official figures.

All - Searching by MPG? - NARU

That doesn't answer the question though.

As a caravanner, I need my towcar to be 1700kg or heavier. I'd prefer an estate.

I'd love to be able to search the database in descending order of real life MPG, until I spot one that is heavy enough for my purposes. I realise the database doesn't include weights, so I'd have to look them up myself - but a ranked order of MPGs would be very helpful.

Edited by Marlot on 07/06/2016 at 07:48

All - Searching by MPG? - RT

Use a combination of Whattowcar website to get the list of estate cars heavy enough for your needs and then check that against HJ's Real MPG website.

As a generalisation, Euro 6 diesels are 10% worse than their Euro 5 predecessor (despite their official figures being better) - so if you're looking at used cars, go slightly older.

All - Searching by MPG? - RobJP

Most vehicles seem to do 75-80% of 'claimed' mpg.

So just search on that basis. The vast majority will be a similar proportion of real:quoted mpg, so it makes no difference.

Put it another way : if you were searching by price, but knew that you would get a discount of 20-25% off every single car on the market, then you'd still search by 'list' price, and not expect the search facility to re-order by discounted price.

All - Searching by MPG? - NARU

Most vehicles seem to do 75-80% of 'claimed' mpg.

So just search on that basis. The vast majority will be a similar proportion of real:quoted mpg, so it makes no difference.

Put it another way : if you were searching by price, but knew that you would get a discount of 20-25% off every single car on the market, then you'd still search by 'list' price, and not expect the search facility to re-order by discounted price.

Well, we have these two entries for the latest XC70

D5 Geartronic Start/Stop 41.5–44.1 mpg 38.6 mpg 90% D5 Start/Stop 50.4–53.3 mpg 36.7 mpg 71%

Clearly, it would be reasonable to expect a D5 xc70 to do about 37-38 mpg. But if you worked from the official figures, there is a huge discrepancy.

I'm NOT saying its a huge problem - I can look up the individual cars. But given that the data is held in a small database, I agree with the OP, that it would be useful to be able to report it a different way

Edited by Marlot on 07/06/2016 at 13:17

All - Searching by MPG? - RobJP

But as we all know, some cars have very few entries. Some, the driverrs meticulously record odometer miles and litres put in, and calculate. Some, the drivers work off the onboard mpg. Some from people who drive like grannie, others who drive 'full-on'. Some figures are even probably false - there are m****s out there who just enjoy messing around and doing stupid things like that.

Some will have even been entered against the wrong car - I've seen it often enough with 'owner reviews' !

So all that user data is a very rough guide. Attempting to work off it for a purchase decision would be nonsense. Add in the fact that a single model in 'Realmpg' will cover a range of cars with differing specs, wheel sizes, etc. and it really should be taken as such, and not really relied upon much more than the 'official' mpg figure.

Here's an example. The entry for the F30 BMW 320d has an 'official' economy ranging from 61-67 mpg. Now, that covers 2 different engine outputs, everything from 'base SE with 16" wheels' spec to 'fully-loaded MSport with silly 20" wheels and BMW bodykit' variants. Those are obviously going to give very different fuel economy figures. The wheel/tyre alone will probably give a 5-10% difference in economy.

And that's before you've put different drivers in them, and one spends it's life doing 70 on the M6, whilst the other is hammering it round the home counties in constant traffic.

It's a really rough guide. Basically says "The official figures are nonsense. Here is what some other people have reported". But as much as that it's a tool for HJ (and others with similar databases) to use to campaign for the 'official' test to be reviewed (and to get publicity).

In addition to which, if the OP is going to tow a large caravan with it, then you can probably take another 20-30% off the 'Realmpg' figures.

All - Searching by MPG? - RT
In addition to which, if the OP is going to tow a large caravan with it, then you can probably take another 20-30% off the 'Realmpg' figures.

That difference is quite variable, dependent on the relative difference in weight and cross-sectional area of car and caravan and can be quite different in urban or hilly terrain compared to rural motorways.

But in any case, a realistic solo figure is a good place to start.

I personally work on 85% of official combined mpg for solo use and 55% towing.

Edited by RT on 07/06/2016 at 14:22

All - Searching by MPG? - RT

Most vehicles seem to do 75-80% of 'claimed' mpg.

So just search on that basis. The vast majority will be a similar proportion of real:quoted mpg, so it makes no difference.

Put it another way : if you were searching by price, but knew that you would get a discount of 20-25% off every single car on the market, then you'd still search by 'list' price, and not expect the search facility to re-order by discounted price.

The published average on HJ's Real MPG is 85%, some better, some worse.

All - Searching by MPG? - padova

Choose what car you want, the ask around.

My 1994 Jags have all did 28-30ish mpg on a run at 70mph. At 60mph the Daimler did 34 max. At 85-90mph across to Germany my XJ40 returned 28mpg. How accurate can you be? Even the weather affects it.

All - Searching by MPG? - Jodd

I find this site useful. There is a database search function and if you set a higher minimum power that should exclude the superminis.

Edited by Avant on 19/06/2016 at 22:58