Car sold by daughters boyfriend - thetash

I bought a car for my daughter as she was having my grandaughter, she didnt drive so the log book was put in her boyfriends name, they have split up and the boyfriend has sold the car where do i stand as I was the one that bought it

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - Cyd

presumably you have a receipt from the original purchase to show either you or your daughter as the owner? Or other proof that you paid for it?

Just issue a small claim against him for the original purchase price. If he's any sense he'll cave and pay.

No need to hold a license to be a registered keeper.

Also registered keeper (on V5) and owner are not the same thing.

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - thetash

presumably you have a receipt from the original purchase to show either you or your daughter as the owner? Or other proof that you paid for it?

Just issue a small claim against him for the original purchase price. If he's any sense he'll cave and pay.

No need to hold a license to be a registered keeper.

Also registered keeper (on V5) and owner are not the same thing.

Yes mate have the receipt and bank statement, what would it cost my to do a small claim

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - thetash

Cyd(P)

how do i do a small claim

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - Auristocrat

Have a look at:

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/law_e/law_legal_system_e/law_taking_legal_action_e/small_claims.htm

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - daveyjp
Moneyclaimonline website.

www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome
Car sold by daughters boyfriend - Smileyman

go to this web site https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/overview .... you'll need the boyfriends details and a credit/debit card to pay the court fees, it's fairly straightforward.

There is a telephone helpline if you need advice - 0300 123 1372

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - FP

Hang on - the car was a gift, no? You can't give something to someone and then claim it back - legally you have no "title" to it.

The daughter may have a claim, though.

Edited by FP on 20/02/2013 at 22:58

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - likerocks

I think there is probably a fair case to make in terms of describing this as outright theft. I'd make your first stop the Police - or at least give him written notice of your intention to do this.

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - focussed

I have used this before to get miscreants to pay up.

hmctscourtfinder.justice.gov.uk/courtfinder/forms/...f

This is a county court form that you can fill in online and print off, send it to the person in question together with letter stating that if you don't get the money they owe in 7 or 14 days or whatever timeframe you choose, the form will be sent in as a county court claim. Works in 75% of cases in my experience.

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - Dwight Van Driver
Woa.......

You buy car.
You have possession and ownership

You give it to your daughter.
Your possession ownership passes to daughter.

Boyfriend, without authority sells car.
Theft?
Plodshop and report.

Being the Reg owner does not indicate ownership of the car.

...or am I missing something

dvd


Car sold by daughters boyfriend - Armitage Shanks {p}

Commenting to my learned friend DVD, the phrase is registered keeper SFAIK.and being the reginstered keeper also does not imply ownership.

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - Dwight Van Driver
Whoops... Thanks for that AS

Should have ensured I had three greens before hitting the send button???

dvd
Car sold by daughters boyfriend - gordonbennet

Not questioning anyone's integrity here so don't take offence.

Be sure your daughter didn't let him have the car as some sort of bargaining chip during the obviously fraught time of a break up, before you go steaming in.

If he's stolen her car and sold it then the first place to visit is the Nick.

Edited by gordonbennet on 21/02/2013 at 07:50

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - barney100

Would the Police get your money back though, they could nick him and give him some sort of sentence, community service or a slap on the wrist, even a few days in gaol but does that get your cash back? You need citizen's advice who will get you a few minutes with a solicitor for a small fee and possibly a solution. Small claims may find in your favour but will the bloke pay up then?

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - gordonbennet

Fair point Barney, but if the police can be bothered and find the car has been unlwafully sold, then that should make the next step of small claims a pure formality.

Possible too that the car can then be reclaimed from whoever bought it, leaving him with the problem of recovering the lolly from the ex.

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - Bromptonaut

Another note of caution.

Let's assume you go to the County Court and get judgement. What happens next?

You need to be sure there's a reasonable chance of him paying up. If he's on his uppers, in othetr debts or only just making ends meet you might struggle to enforce. You may get nothing or only a petty weekly or monthly installment.

The old phrase about a man of straw still applies.

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - Chris M

We don't know all the circumstances here like how long they had been together. If we assume they had been together for a year or two and they were building a home together, then the boyfriend could possibly argue he had bought say furniture, TV, kettle, toaster or whatever. If, on departure, he had said to the girlfriend, you can keep all the household items and I'll take the car. Has he done anything wrong? If the OP had given the daughter the car knowing full well it would be the boyfriend who drove it, can he complain that the boyfriend took it with him? I guess it comes down to the relatively high value of the car.

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - happy polo

Whilst I don't wish to dash anyone's hopes of getting back what sounds like it was rightly theirs, I'm not entirely convinced the police would go very far with this. I'm pretty sure there have been cases in the past where somebody, by whatever means, has gained access to a vehicle and it's logbook, illegitimately transferred their name onto the V5 as the keeper, and sold the vehicle on. This has then been reported to the police, who have played their favourite 'civil matter' card, citing lack of evidence or whatever.

If you go to Plod and say he's nicked it, he will likely respond by saying the vehicle was gifted/given to him at some stage, hence the logbook being in his name. The police are unlikely, I would imagine, to be able to progress that any further, since there would be no actual evidence - save for you and your daughter's statements - that he sold the vehicle illegally. Indeed, the police may even consider your admission that the vehicle was transferred to him on the V5 as 'evidence' in his favour. That you have proof of originally purchasing the vehicle is of no relevance if you are admitting that you subsequently transferred it into his name; that is likely to be the more important point. In view of the circumstances surrounding the allegation, i.e. that a clearly difficult breakup has happened, it is very likely to be deemed impossible to establish who is being truthful, and such a small matter is very unlkely to be deemed worthy of a court's time to get it settled I would imagine.

Sorry to be a doom monger, I hope you do find some success!

Edited by happy polo on 27/02/2013 at 20:15

Car sold by daughters boyfriend - tony g
Hi all,
It's a potentially complicated problem .

About three years ago I bought and sold a polo from a guy in hull .

The car was registered to the guys wife at the same address who I never met . I bought the car ,paid cash and took it away .the car was HPI checked and clear .The guy simply said he had bought a newer car for his wife .

About a year later I got a call from hull police .The wife had complained that the car wasn't his to sell , he had no right to sell the car and he had moved to Saudi Arabia to work .

The police wanted to see the invoices I had for the purchase ,although I had them I said I would only make them available if they made an appointment to discuss the car purchase in front of my solicitor .

I never heard from the police or the seller again .

Could it have been an attempted scam by the couple or by the wife on her own ,who knows .perhaps that's what the police thought .
Car sold by daughters boyfriend - Hamsafar

Only the Daughter can be the complainant to the Police or Claimant in court, and as the car was not in her name on the V5, it may be difficult to prove she had anything to do with it.

You would need some paperwork before going to court such as a thank you letter or photos. I hope you can 'find' some.