Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - AniMac

I'm going to be buying a Beetle in a few months and after experiencing HG failure on a couple of cars, i'm wondering if it's generally acceptable to do a sniff test when checking the car out?

Would you be ok with someone doing that if you were selling a car?

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - elekie&a/c doctor

Do you really need a Beetle? These are a poorly built Golf.

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - AniMac

Ah man, don't say that! I've wanted a beetle since I was a kid and i've been saving for ages. What's the problem with them?

And what about the sniff test etiquette (beetle or not!)?

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - focussed

Do you really want to buy a car that has a fitting for a flower vase on the dash? It's a girl's car, it was always designed and aimed at the girly market.

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - elekie&a/c doctor

If you have been saving for ages,you will be spending for ages when it goes wrong.This is not the car for you.H/G failure is often caused by lack of maintenance and failure to watch the temp gauge,which the Beetle does not have.Get a sniff test done ,if the seller will allow out,but I would be more worried about any service history (or lack of)and how many owners in the log book.This is the type of car you only buy once.hth

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - AniMac

I am a girl! The flower thing is kitsch, sure, but I was always under the impression that VW's were good, solid, reliable machines.

So, the beetle doesn't have a temp gauge? That I didn't know. I'm pretty handy with cars, I can do basic maintenance, oil changes, filters etc and i'd look after whatever car I got.

Of course i'll be looking for cars with fsh etc, but my main question was whether doing a sniff test before buying is generally acceptable.

I guess i'd better do some more research.

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - focussed

I am a girl! The flower thing is kitsch, sure, but I was always under the impression that VW's were good, solid, reliable machines.

So, the beetle doesn't have a temp gauge? That I didn't know. I'm pretty handy with cars, I can do basic maintenance, oil changes, filters etc and i'd look after whatever car I got.

Of course i'll be looking for cars with fsh etc, but my main question was whether doing a sniff test before buying is generally acceptable.

I guess i'd better do some more research.

Well in that case don't forget to water the flower(s) and the best of luck with any car you decide to buy!

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - thunderbird

If you are not aware the "sniff" test involves taking a sample of water out of the water header tank and adding a reagent. The colour of the reaction tells you if certain gasses are present and that in turn tells you if there is a HG problem.

But just because its OK when its tested does not mean a HG will never fail.

I did over 200000 miles in 2 petrol Golfs between 1986 and 1997 and never had a HG failure. Did over 100000 in 2 diesels between 1996 and 2002 and never had a HG failure.

You can get HG failure on any brand.

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - countryroads

There is nothing inherently wrong with the Beetle at all. Some find it hard to park due its large wings and bulbous shape and the fuel economy from all engines except the 1.9 TDi is very poor, dont get a 2.0 Auto, they literally do about 20mpg.

The ride is actually very good indeed on 16 inch wheels too. Try to get air con as the interior is like a greenhouse in summer and the later cars are better built.

The age of car you are looking at will determine some of the upcoming bills you could reasonably expect.

There is a blue warning light telling you when the engine is warming and not to push it, and a red one for overheating but they arent any more prone to issues than anything else. It is very important not to rev the engine very much at all until the engine is good and warm. The most common 1.6 and 2.0s are old fashioned 8 valve engines which is a good and bad thing, cheap to maintain for the most part though, just keep within the timing belt intervals and change the oil every 6k miles or 1 year.

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - Avant

The Beetle is mechanically similar to the Golf - as far as I know VW engines aren't particularly prone to HG failure. If you want one, go for it, but get a good test drive in one if you haven't already, to make sure you actually like driving it.

If you find you don't, but want something with a fun image, consider a Mini or Fiat 500 - both smaller than the Beetle but the Mini certainly is more fun to drive.

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - AniMac

Thanks for the input guys.

I know how to do sniff tests, I bought a kit and an old mechanic friend taught me how. I'd still love to know whether you think it's cheeky to ask to do one when buying a car?

I'll test drive the beetle and mini and see which I prefer. Like I said, i've always wanted a beetle but then again, I do like the look of the mini's.. So fickle!

Concerned about the difficult parking with the beetle, after all I am a woman and I do hate parallel parking :) I don't need to be adding factors in that make it any more loathsome.

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - Bromptonaut

You're buying.

If the car suits you one age, price condition etc than progress to closer look - sound serious. Raise the bonnet, quick glance at level and condition of essential fluids then ask 'OK if I check the coolant'?

If they refuse walk.

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - AniMac

Good plan. If they've nothing to hide they won't mind but I suppose the "sold as seen" sellers might object.

Thanks again, you've all been a big help.

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - thunderbird

but I suppose the "sold as seen" sellers might object.

If any seller trys that trick run away. Any car the dealer trys that with has known problems. Think about it, if it was a good car they would be happy to sell with a gaurantee.

Volkswagen Beetle - Buying a used car. Sniff test. - countryroads

The engine that is least prone to issues in the Beetle is the comparatively rare 1.8 Turbo, but it blends power and economy the best and came with a few extra toys. Its the one I would seek out if I was after one.

The thing that gets the Beetle a thumbs up from me is that the ride and refinement is much superior to either the 500 or the Mini. The Mini handles the best of course but they do like to rattle a bit, and the first gen 'new Mini' has a rather course Chrysler derived engine that can be prone to headgasket failure too.