All - New car sales 2012 - Auristocrat

The SMMT new car registrations for 2012 makes for some interesting reading.

Ford 281,917 (up 6.03% compared to 2011); Vauxhall 232,255 (down 1.05%); VW 183,098 (up 2.12%).

Above 10% increase in new car sales compared to 2011:

Bentley 1,267 (up 22.18% compared to 2011); Chrysler 3,333 (up 181.98%); Fiat 49,907 (up 19.93%); Hyundai 74,285 (up 18.1%); Infiniti 530 (up 38.74%); Kia 66,629 (up 24.27%); Landrover 48,626 (up 29.2%); Mercedes 91,855 (up 12.13%); Porsche 7,998 (up 25.32%); Skoda 53,602 (up 18.95%); Suzuki 24,893 (up 22.66%); Toyota 84,563 (up 14.91%).

More than a 10% decrease in car sales compared to 2011:

Alfa Romeo 7,253 (down 37.27% compared to 2011); Lotus 137 (down 58.36%); Maserati 309 (down 20.36%); Mazda 26,183 (down 16.13%); Mitsubishi 6,549 (down 33.47%); Renault 40,760 (down 40.45%); Subaru 2,023 (down 23.2%).

All - New car sales 2012 - RT

Given that the overall car market improved in 2012, as part of the recovery from low levels before, it must be worrying for those brands dropping when most are increasing.

Subaru and Mitsubishi must wonder why they bother - in Subaru's case the poor fuel consumption and lack of diesel automatics plus an indifferent importer must surely mean they'll jack it in soon - shame as they're great cars.

Edited by RT on 07/01/2013 at 20:32

All - New car sales 2012 - Avant

The weak pound and the strong yen haven't helped Japanese car importers - all credit to Toyota for working hard at customer care (unlike Mazda it seems) although they would sell more Aurises if they offered the 1.8 petrol and 2.0 diesel engines in the UK. (And perhaps called it the Corolla again?)

I wonder where those extra Chrysler sales have come from - surely not those rebadged Lancias?

Sadly, Renault seem to have a death wish - they're now putting a lot of resource into electric cars which I can't see taking off until there is a breakthrough in battery technology to give a better range, or else the technology in the Volt/Ampera becomes a lot cheaper. Both those things will probably happen, but anyone care to guess when?

All - New car sales 2012 - jamie745

It looks good until you find out most are fleet sales (obviously) and they're generally things like the Fiesta and Astra.

As for Chrysler a new 300C came out last year which could have something to do with it.

All - New car sales 2012 - Auristocrat

The SMMT figures show that Fleet sales took 50.2% (down 2.3%) of sales, Business 4.4% (down 0.7%) and private sales took 45.4% (up 3.1%).

Diesels took 50.8% of sales (highest ever share - up 0.2%), petrol 47.8% (down 0.3%) and alternative fuels 1.4% (up 0.1%).

All - New car sales 2012 - Collos25

Nobody seems to have picked up that business sales were down by 9% and Renault throughout Europe are doing quite well.If you analyse the figures more closely a lot of the increase in car sales are from products produced outside the EU which is quite worrying as far as the UKs balance of payments are concerned.

All - New car sales 2012 - RT

If you analyse the figures more closely a lot of the increase in car sales are from products produced outside the EU which is quite worrying as far as the UKs balance of payments are concerned.

You need to do that analysis by model, not by brand - many Japanese and Korean brands build their smaller, but high volume, models within the EU.

That will no doubt include large values of components imported into the EU from the Far East but then many British and European brands do that as well.

All - New car sales 2012 - Collos25

Built in low cost areas with high profits going to the respective countries ,so you actually need to analyse by brand and where the money goes.You also said as much in a previous statement.

Edited by Collos25 on 08/01/2013 at 09:27