Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - rfm943

There seem to be various rumours floating around that Honda will soon be announcing that it will no longer supply the Accord in the UK. The reason given is that they are not profitable to sell as they are still brought in from Japan, whereas the emphasis is shifting to the UK manufactured models.

It would be a great shame in my opinion if this happened and would leave a gap in the Honda model range.

Has anyone else heard these rumours? And would the car be missed, other than by Accord devotees?

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Avant

I haven't heard the rumour but it wouldn't surprise me. The Accord is in a segment whuch has struggled in recent years because of downsizing: it's also expensive for what it offers, and rivals are either cheaper (Ford and Skoda) or hold their value better (the German makes).

Honda UK seem to me to have lost their way recently. For example, the Civic is not nearly as popular as the previous (2001-07) version, and Honda obstinately refuse to sell the Jazz in the UK with the 1.5 engine offered in some other countries.

Edited by Avant on 14/12/2012 at 00:09

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - jamie745

It wouldn't surprise me either. I don't see what the Accord really offers. With the likes of Kia now shoehorning themselves into the market somebody has to fall out.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Auristocrat

Another victim of the unfavourable exchange rate, following on from Daihatsu and the Toyota Urban Cruiser.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Trilogy

I have heard the rumour.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - RT

This was reported in the motoring press back in July www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/uncertain-uk-f...d

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Sulphur Man

Well the Urban Cruiser is no sad loss...

The current Accord, in estate form, is an excellent car, but competing against a very established hierarchy of BMW, Audi Merc & Volvo estates. It was always up against it, to win sales over from those. Also, whilst the i-DTEC 2.2 is as good a 4-cyl diesel as any, the automatic version was uncompetitive, both emissions and mpg, compared to direct rivals.

Lots of people want to own Hondas though - the incredibly positive customer satisfaction surveys are impossible to ignore. We've had three in our house, including the current FR-V, all excellent. I suspect another reason for the Accord's demise is that a prospective Honda buyer goes for the CR-V instead, for a broadly similar price.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - RT

Most the main Japanese brands have factories in the UK - Honda, Nissan, Toyota - and the UK models are exported around the world with non-UK built models from the same brands being imported into the UK.

So why does Honda find it too expensive to import models into the UK when Nissan and Toyota are continuing to do so.

Although some models are built in Europe, the Korean brands have no problem bring their best-sellers half way round the world, a similar distance to Honda.

If it's really the distance that's the problem, Honda could import Accords from the USA as it's built in Ohio there for the North American market.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Falkirk Bairn

The decline of the £ against the Yen is staggering.

Japanese exporters of home built goods are struggling in all fields - Sony/Panasonic in electronics. Subaru/Toyota/Honda in cars/light commercials,

I realise that Honda could build cars in the USA but the Honda Accord USA is different from the Japanese built model we see.

Look at the USA product range of Honda and few of these would sell here.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Auristocrat

I presume it is to do with the exchange rate between the Japanese Yen and European currencies which reduces the proft margins/viability on vehicles built in Japan - this is why Daihatsu pulled out of Europe.

As regards Kia and Hyundai, for the European market, the majority of their ranges are built in Europe or India (i10 - India; i20 - India and Turkey; ix20, i30, ix35 - Czech republic: Kia Cee'd and Sportage - Slovakia; Venga - Slovakia and Czech republic).

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - RT

As regards Kia and Hyundai, for the European market, the majority of their ranges are built in Europe or India (i10 - India; i20 - India and Turkey; ix20, i30, ix35 - Czech republic: Kia Cee'd and Sportage - Slovakia; Venga - Slovakia and Czech republic).

The majority of their ranges possibly - but the big sellers like Santa Fe / Sorento and i40 / Optima are built in Korea and shipped over so by vehicle numbers and value most Hyundai'/Kia's are imported from Korea.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Auristocrat

'The majority of their ranges possibly - but the big sellers like Santa Fe / Sorento and i40 / Optima are built in Korea and shipped over so by vehicle numbers and value most Hyundai'/Kia's are imported from Korea.'

So Hyundai imports more Santa Fe's and i40's into Europe than i20's and i10's, and Kia imports more Sorrentos and Optimas, than Rios and Picantos???

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - RT

Their transporter ships are full both ways !

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Robbie

A great pity about the demise of the Accord in the UK, and this was known some months ago. I have just part exchanged my Accord Tourer, which gave sterling service and total reliability, for the new IV Gen CR-V EX iDTEC. It's not as exciting to drive as my Accord but it is quiet and refined. I've only had it for two weeks so I have yet to really try it out.

I hope it will be as reliable as my Accord, and it is chock full of technology and accessories. For the price - almost £32,000 - it wants for nothing. An equivalent spec on a Mercedes or BMW would be in excess of £40k.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - skidpan

The majority of their ranges possibly - but the big sellers like Santa Fe / Sorento and i40 / Optima are built in Korea and shipped over so by vehicle numbers and value most Hyundai'/Kia's are imported from Korea.

Which planet are you from. The Santa Fe/Sorento and i40/Optima are hardly the big sellers in the Kia/Hyundai range. The big sellers are the Ceed/i30 and Sportage ix35 and they are made in either Slovakia (Kia) or the Czech Republic (Hyundai). The Venga/ix20 are made in the European factories as well. The biggest selling Kia form Korea is the Picanto followed by the Rio.

The big 4x4's won't even register on the same page in the sales league.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Collos25

Kia had 2% of the UK car market last year.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - rfm943

Some interesting comments there.

Looking around there seem to be some very sharp deals up and down the country on Accords that have done little or no mileage. I owned two Accords in the past and am tempted to buy another. The crucial question in the end for me relates to how much the second hand values will depreciate once it has become a discontinued model and also whether there will be some very low prices on unsold stock following any announcement.

An interesting comparison could be with the Honda FRV which was discontinued in 2009 but whose values seem to be holding up pretty well, judging by the comments being made on another current forum topic. Or is this not a good comparison on the basis that the FRV is something of a niche vehicle whereas the Accord is mainstream?

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Sulphur Man

The FR-V was a bit too niche for its time. The car's lifespan broadly coincided with the fast growth of the family-size SUV market, which ultimately has driven the new crossover market, and the even newer mini-crossover market, as people downsize but still want the 'high-up' driving position.

However, the FR-V has found a growing audience of people who have discovered it's brilliant packaging and versatility, yet without the big footprint and often heavy running costs of a larger SUV or 7-seater. There's not other car of comparable size which can accomodate three child seats across the back. A good 58/09 reg diesel one should fetch £12K no problem.

Yes, we have one, and Im deeply impressed by it. We traded in an X-Trail for it. Our Honda dealer says a used one sells within a fornight of arrival, usually sooner. Id love to see a successor to it.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Alanovich

The FR-V .......... There's not other car of comparable size which can accomodate three child seats across the back.

Off the top of my head, FIAT Multipla, Peugeot 307SW.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - oldtoffee

>>>The big 4x4's won't even register on the same page in the sales league.

Quote from Which - "The outgoing (2006-2012) Santa Fe was Hyundai's bestselling car in the UK"

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Auristocrat

Not for the whole of Europe though.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Engineer Andy

A shame if we are going to lose this car - its the only one from the current range I think is stylish looking (inside and out - just the right mix of high tech and quality). A bit too big for my tastes/needs though.

You always used to see loads of them around 10 years ago, many end up as taxis (like the Avensis) because they were so hardy, if (at the time) a bit staid.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - unthrottled

Such a shame that a very good (if slightly conservative) car was spurned in favour of the wannabe Range Rover CRV carbuncle

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Engineer Andy

The CRV isn't exctly a looker isn't it?

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - jamie745

It's a hard class to sell a car in and the Accord doesn't offer enough.

If you want value you'll buy a Kia Optima or a Hyundai Sonata.

If you want the perfect all rounder you'll buy the Ford Mondeo.

If you want a cheaper all rounder you'll buy a Vauxhall Vectra.

If you want to scream 'look at meeee!!!' you'll buy a Mercedes C Class.

If you have no imagination and too much money you'll buy a BMW 3 series.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Rich320d

Seems Honda dealers have been told now, production ends early 2015, last deliveries in May.

The 8th gen has served its 6 years, shame there wont be a 9th gen in the UK.

The Accord is well engineered, good to drive and reliable, and a different choice to all the German cars, which aren't reliable any more!

RIP Accord you will be missed

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - A. Badger

RIP indeed.

My Accord served me remarkably well. What killed a same brand replacement was Honda's unwise attempt to price the latest model against the German competition, making it overpriced (as were, IMNSHO, the aforementioned German competition). That and the removal of the hatchback (presumably for the same reason).

Strange compnay, Honda. Great engineers. Not so good at understanding the maarket.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Avant

I agree. The Accord was almost as expensive as the German competition but didn't have the prestige and didn't hold its value so well.

I think there's a more general decline in that size of car, at least in the UK - perhaps due to our overcrowded roads. The next size down will do if you just want a normal-size car: if you need a bigger car, you go for an MPV or crossover. A lot of former Mondeo drivers will now be in a Focus / Golf / Octavia, C-Max or Kuga - or Qashqai, which is made in the UK so ticks the patriotic vote too.

I read recently that the VW Passat is as popular as ever: not in the UK I suspect, but probably in the USA where at long last Americans are regarding that size of car as normal.

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Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - RT

Americans don't rate VW reliability and are baffled why we do.

As it happens the US Passat is a different car to the European version, a bit like the two Accord versions - bigger, more bloated in the US.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - gordonbennet

Americans don't rate VW reliability and are baffled why we do.

Not sure many of us in this forum do.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - RT

Americans don't rate VW reliability and are baffled why we do.

Not sure many of us in this forum do.

I had noticed - and VAG doesn't appear on my very long short list for a replacement SUV.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Bilboman

Japanese "D" segment cars (Primera and probably also Accord and, apparently, Avensis) seem to be going the same way as the European "E" segment in the last decade or two - car buyers gradually traded down to a smaller but better value "D"(which had by then grown to the size of an "E"!) - witness the demise of the Rover 800, Ford Scorpio, Vauxhall Omega, Renault Safrane, Peugeot 607 and all the large Italians.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Wackyracer

car buyers gradually traded down to a smaller but better value "D"(which had by then grown to the size of an "E"!)

This is something I have noticed over the last 20 years or so, Small cars are getting bigger. If you look at an original Vauxhall Nova and you look at todays Corsa it has grown to the size of an Original Astra (If not a little bigger).

Or the Ford Fiesta which is now the size (almost) of a first generation Focus.

Edited by Wackyracer on 09/11/2014 at 08:35

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - RT

When introduced, the Escort was the smallest in Ford's 4 model range (excluding MPV/CUV/SUV) - the Focus, it's successor is now 3rd biggest in a 4 model range. It's noticeable that the Mondeo has more interior space than Granada/Scorpio ever did.

The Vauxhall Viva/Astra has made the same progression.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - Trilogy

car buyers gradually traded down to a smaller but better value "D"(which had by then grown to the size of an "E"!)

This is something I have noticed over the last 20 years or so, Small cars are getting bigger. If you look at an original Vauxhall Nova and you look at todays Corsa it has grown to the size of an Original Astra (If not a little bigger).

Or the Ford Fiesta which is now the size (almost) of a first generation Focus.

It iis inevitable for cars to get larger.

Honda Accord - Farewell in the UK? - RT

Japanese "D" segment cars (Primera and probably also Accord and, apparently, Avensis) seem to be going the same way as the European "E" segment in the last decade or two - car buyers gradually traded down to a smaller but better value "D"(which had by then grown to the size of an "E"!) - witness the demise of the Rover 800, Ford Scorpio, Vauxhall Omega, Renault Safrane, Peugeot 607 and all the large Italians.

The mainstream "E" sector evaporated as buyers switched to cheaper mainstream "D" sector models, or as the majority did switched to a prestigious premium "C" model - the present evaporation of the mainstream "D" sector involves similar switches to mainstream "C" sector or premium "B" sector - but with the addition of switches to MPV and CUVs.

 

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