Venga vs ix20 - davecooper

Has anyone driven the Hyundai ix20 and its sister, the Kia Venga back to back. Hyundai make a big thing in their blurb about their suspension being designed with our awful British roads in mind. Kia don't say anything like this and in fact I had heard that the Venga could have a bit of a harsh ride. Can anyone verify whether there are any differences between the two in this area?

Venga vs ix20 - monzaman

Has anyone driven the Hyundai ix20 and its sister, the Kia Venga back to back. Hyundai make a big thing in their blurb about their suspension being designed with our awful British roads in mind. Kia don't say anything like this and in fact I had heard that the Venga could have a bit of a harsh ride. Can anyone verify whether there are any differences between the two in this area?

Venga vs ix20 - Steamdrivenandy

I haven't driven either I'm afraid, but I have noticed that there's a distinct prejudice in the motoring press against Kia cars when compared to Hyundai. This is especially true of What Car who habitually mark Kias at least one star below their Hyundai brethren. As the two ranges are generally identical, bar cosmetic differences, I can't see how they can justify such an attitude. In reality there may be some kia models that are very slightly worse than Hyundais and some that are vice versa, but surely they can't all be consistently worse. I suspect a severe dose of Korean badge snobbery breaking out in the minds of journo's.

Venga vs ix20 - skidpan

Take no notice of what the journo's say. Drive both and make your own decision.

That way you have only yourself to blame if you change your mind later.

Venga vs ix20 - thunderbird

You'll see more difference from choice of wheel and tyre profile than from the slightly different suspension settings. Same applies to cee'd and i30s. They are all much better on squidgy 195/65 R15s than they are on low frptile 225/45 R17s. The low profile tyres do not seem to suit the electric power steering.

HJ

We have a Ceed that uses the 225/45 17's but in winter we fit 205/55 16's, we hardly notice any difference.

Try the cars and decide, what suits one person may not suit another. The deal offered may be the decider at the end of the day.

Rememeber that it is normally only the poverty models that come with 15" wheels these days and retro fiting these to higher spec models will upset your insurers.

Venga vs ix20 - Auristocrat

Haven't driven the Venga/ix20.

Back in April, we test drove the Rio and the i20. Found the gearchange in the Rio to be worse than the i20 - the Rio's was baulky, whereas the i20 was smooth and light (although this may have been down to an issue with that particular Rio). The rearward visibility in the i20 was much better. Chose to buy the i20.

Venga vs ix20 - davecooper

The reason I ask is that neither Kia or Hyundai have a dealership near me, both are 50+ mile round trips. However, one our other main dealers is also a Hyundai service/repair centre and is 10 minutes walk from where I work, which is ideal. For this reason, I will probably lean toward the ix20. However, after owning a couple of fun but harsh riding cars, I long for something a bit more forgiving and hoped that the Hyundai ad blurb had some substance. The only thing that concerns me is that I am looking at a 1.6 Diesel which only comes in the higher specs so probably get larger wheels and less rubber as standard.

Venga vs ix20 - skidpan

The reason I ask is that neither Kia or Hyundai have a dealership near me, both are 50+ mile round trips. However, one our other main dealers is also a Hyundai service/repair centre and is 10 minutes walk from where I work, which is ideal.

I would never buy a car where the nearest dealer is a 50+ mile round trip, its a recipe for loads of grief should you have warranty isssues. The fact that there is Hyundai service centre 10 minutes from work is of no practical use, what happens if you change jobs plus only official dealers can do warranty work.

Find a brand with more convenient dealers.

Venga vs ix20 - Auristocrat

Hyundai do have some official dealer locations that only carry out servicing. As such I would expect the service dealers are also able to undertake repairs including warranty repairs.

Edited by Auristocrat on 08/11/2012 at 14:34

Venga vs ix20 - Steamdrivenandy

The Kia dealer I use is in Stoke, but there is a servicing dealer much closer, just on the Keele edge of Newcastle under Lyme. Apparently they used to be a full Kia dealer but now retail Fiats instead. Kia recently appointed another main dealership just the other side of Crewe so there are now two main dealers equal distances from home.

I also notice Kia have appointed a dealership on the way to Chester and they still have large Toyota signs in their windows from their previous franchise.

So there appears to be a lot of current activity going on building a bigger network of dealers

Edited by Steamdrivenandy on 08/11/2012 at 18:41

Venga vs ix20 - Auristocrat

I posted a topic on the Hyundai Owners Club and these are the responses:

'I was under the impression the IX20 had the firmer ride.'

'I know I feel the bumps in my IX20. I found the inside a bit nicer than Venga. But didnt drive it. Think what car or similar have video of test drives which might help.'

'I have the ix20 and my cousin has the Venga...I found the Venga a harder ride, but didn't drive it so can't tell you much from that point of view. He has the "Style" equivalent with the sunroof, but the Venga has part leather seats, front ones are heated, so it has a few extras that the ix20 doesn't have. Petrol consumption is about the same...awful.' (ix20 1.6 style - auto).

What Car allows you to compare specs of models - but this is reliant on What Car getting their info correct. In price the ix20 1.6CRDi Style auto compares to the Venga 1.6CRDi 2 auto. The Venga is about £200 cheaper. On spec the Venga 3 is closer to the ix20 Style but costs £1200 more.

Just a note about leather seats - Kia recently had a case featured in Auto Express or similar where (I think it was an SUV) the model was supposed to have leather interior. As it turned out parts of the 'leather' were 'faux leather' (horrible term) - assume the same would be the case with other non-premium manufacturers

Venga vs ix20 - skidpan

Just a note about leather seats - Kia recently had a case featured in Auto Express or similar where (I think it was an SUV) the model was supposed to have leather interior. As it turned out parts of the 'leather' were 'faux leather' (horrible term) - assume the same would be the case with other non-premium manufacturers

The case was blown out of all proportion by Auto Express. The details had been resolved to the satisfaction of most owners on the Kia Forum weeks before Auto Express came along with the story.

Facts are like all manufacturers Kia uses real leather on the bits where you sit and rest your head, the sides and rear are "faux" leather. On the Kia Forum they posted photos detailing exactly what parts are what material.

I know for a fact that Audi and BMW do exactly the same.

Venga vs ix20 - Avant

" Apparently they used to be a full Kia dealer but now retail Fiats instead. "

They may not be there for much longer!

Venga vs ix20 - Buster Cambelt

" Apparently they used to be a full Kia dealer but now retail Fiats instead. "

They may not be there for much longer!

Ah, those old, out-dated prejudices..... shock, horror, small FIATs are good, reliable cars - especially 500s and Pandas.

Venga vs ix20 - unthrottled

small FIATs are good, reliable cars - especially 500s

Really? It sells because Fiat have done a fantastic job of making the Ka look cute.

I like the Panda, but they've had problems with the outsourcing to Poland. Case of Fix It Again Tadeusz?

Venga vs ix20 - Avant

Interesting, Unthrottled - I thought that the 500 and Panda were more reliable BECAUSE they were made in Poland, although the new Panda is made back in Italy.

I wouldn't like to be a Fiat dealer with such a small part of the range selling sucessfully - that's a fact of life, not a prejudice.

Edited by Avant on 11/11/2012 at 00:28

Venga vs ix20 - Buster Cambelt

500 and Ka share the PANDA platform and come down the same production lines in Poland. The shared components amount to less than 40%, e.g. engines are not shared but supension and brakes are.

You coild equally argue that Ford has done a fine job of turning the 500 into a bland little box.

Having run two for SWMBO these are brilliant little cars, the first (1200cc FIRE) is coming up to 5 years old and is now owned by a relative. In that time the only fault has been a windscreen washer nozzle. The second (Twin Air) is almost two and has had ZERO problems.

Both did 50mpg without trying and both had amongst the most comfortable seats I've experienced in ANY car.

500 and Panda may be just part of FIAT's range but they seem to selling masses of them and they must be good for showroom footfall.

Venga vs ix20 - daveyK_UK

Increasing ammount of problems with the Venga, and a high parts list.

Im sure the IX20 will be the same as its essentially the exactly same car.

Check out the relevant hyundai and kia forums for more info.

Venga vs ix20 - thunderbird

Increasing ammount of problems with the Venga, and a high parts list.

Im sure the IX20 will be the same as its essentially the exactly same car.

Check out the relevant hyundai and kia forums for more info.

Ignore what is said on brand specific forums. Most of the posters are serial wingers or trolls. If you believed all you read you would never buy any car of any brand.

A look at the Which Car and What Car surveys gives a more balanced view but its still not perfect.