If you're in AA or RAC etc get them to recover you home as you've broken down, then won't cost you.

I would think it's cheaper to get the ECU repaired if faulty, just the one unit to remove & less chance of complications arrising freom incompatible parts. Possibly only blown a power regulator in the ECU.

I somehow don't think your code reader will work but worth a try.

As I said, try disconnecting the battery for a few mins first, best of luck.

Think you will have to wait a day or two before you can use AA/ RAC after joining, read the T's & C's.

Parts that may require replacement in the ECU will be integrated circuits, not something to be attempted by anyone who isn't very dextrous with the soldering iron & has the knowledge to find the faulty component in the first place.

Make sure you have checked all the fuses for continuity, not just a visual look.

well ....

this is a good one..

i have read all the "fix" solutions on this site and tried every one of them..

heater earth nothin, clocks ,nothin. shut down relays and fuel pump relays...

so whats the situation?

the alarm almost works i think. the key i can remove in any setting on the turn cycle,

so the barrell is knakked for sure...... but new barrell and key ...is that a reprogramming proceedure,?

the alarm indicator flashes consitently in 2 second intervals costantly after the initial rapid flash of recognition, the engine turns fine and all the monitors on the dash work,

however here is the interesting one, the mirrors open when alarm is fob de activated or door is opened...

but when door is shut or ignition to start, they close.!!!! not very american that .lol

..turn column switch to constantly open no change on other proceedures...

just one curiosity, are all the relays ..lock down etax and fuel relay etc in the fuse box in the engine bay and the footwell the same as they have different product codes on them...but same function?

but all pass the continuity test however..

ive had the dash cowling off and can not find the alarm box.....?? do i have to remove the metal plate..?

i also removed the memory fuse in the main fuse box ... did that cause the mirror issue.... stereo no prob...

so the key is a worry .... is it secquenced... would that cause an issue...that would give the same symtoms...

or do i go for the hard lock down ecu ??

or the whole 9yards and do the ecu key barrell and the like and hope ?

oh well if the many who have read this...having the same problem...

consider this...i cant belive i didnt check this basic thing..

i had a diagnosis mechanic come round with his all singing snap on diagnostic tool...

plugged it in 10 mins or so later... no error codes. everything is as it should be....

did you check spark ?? enqired he .... well i said i didnt as its not firing at all, due to the other problems i assmed its not that obvious...

WRONG !!!!!!!!!!! once the plugs got un welded from the block... the leads were also shot and when the spark chekkers were connected a lovley spark ..... pity i wasnt a bright spark ...

the gap in the plugs had a gap that was so big i cold fit a yale key in it...and no electrode.. looked like they were the originals ... lpg wear no doubt..

so a call to jeep chrysler parts in colindale,london 02082005500 (off flea bay)... a set of plugs and quality leads from the states oem ... £30 all in, may just have cured the issue. i cant get them till tues day ... but i will give it a go..

i asked for the platinum as i have an lpg ...he said the copper ones run better on his 3.3.lpg.... @ £1.99.each.!!! bargain...

. so that saved me even more... euro parts want a £10.+ each and £23,50 for the leads..

i am hoping this is it, as i wouldent have a spark if anything else had gone i presume...thats if it runs ok...but thats the next bit..

oh, and the fella only wanted a £10 of his £40 call out charge, as he said he has done nothing......he gave me an extended plug spanner too, as he said he found it and he only uses snap on, its not what he would use for work.... happy days.....a very nice brazillian guy who loves moggie minors..very professional and a proper nice workshop in his high top...

now the painfull bit of a swap over...those rear bank 3 aint easy to get too..... i can feel the knuckle crunch already....ive pre empted the mechanic i may be giving him a call as my tool kit could be better so if i need some specialist help..he will be comming back...

could it be that simple ????? if so ive got meself a nice bargain if it turnes out to be this.... tbc...

thanks mikyh.... ye i wish i was readin this, not doing it...lol

.. ive never worked on a yankie before....strictly audis....pre 91 .... 20v turbo type...

so...am i in for the labrynth of gremlins or is it just that simple....

drivin me nuts to find out and waiting for the parts is just cruel.....

but im not paying £10 for a spark plug !!! and the bank holiday is just wrong...its gonna rain anyway... might pop into local factors as the manager there is very accomodating.!!!!

i hope you got toffee ones.....

well well .... success..

after replacing the fuel filter, purging the fuel pump by removing the relay and hard wiring 30 and 87a terminal... the pump kikked into life then grabbed the fuel and hey hey fuel in the rail...

it started..... ran like a box of spanners..... dam!!

so after a little investigation the EGR valve looked to be the culprit... stripped it down gave it a gentle clean, the terminals were corroded to nothing , so a bit of delicate reconnecting it seems to work...

i had to beat the injectors into life with a bit of high revvs...but its on all 6 now...

ive been about 10 miles in it now on short journeys and as the fourums said the ecu has to re learn.... and it now runs very smooth indeed... a bit tappety but i can live with that...

an engine flush and some new oil may just even cure it ...but its not the end of if it doesn't...

iam not sure if its the plugs ngk ZGR 5A but it seems to "limit " the revs at 3800 and misses like a good un...

i will check inlet seals and vaccuum hoses in due course...but i wont be using that much revvs anyway for a while ...too thirsty...

so the lpg installation/service check up is booked... and then thats it....

so all in all the ecu is not fried all relays are fine... PHEW..

now for a well earned beer or 10...that was to close too nightmare for my liking...

as my significant other kept reminding me during the prognosees....

money money scrap it scrap it ....etc we have all heard it before i am sure..

she even smiled when she saw it started, and was even happier to be chauffered to the local supermarket for a bumper sized shop...

suggesting a visit to friends in italy and allsorts !!!

that was priceless ...... doubters....

so with a few spanners and screwdrivers and the help on here ive fixed my "bus"..

so next time i buy a spares or repairs runner !! i will insist on the owner starting it...

but even so with the nightmares some peole think they have got.

it could be a simple good servicing that it needs........ (that can apply in many circumstances too !!!...)

but all things considered it not been the nightmare to do at all

so , if your looking in the engine bay...scratching your head ...with a potential monster mechanic bill to just change the plugs..... give it a go its not hard at all.... and so satisfiying...

i hope this may have given a hand to somone with a grand voyager non runner, over all its cost me £55. to get going... and a few hours..

ill let you know on the splutter... but all good so far.... thanks for reading...

thanks mick..

iwas beginning to get that feeling..

but sometimes you just know... ive had too many audis with silly problems to know not to give up..

went for a nice cruise purrs like a kitten.....

might even do the tappets next service...which will be soon as im not convinced on the ngk plugs tbh...

the 3.3 doesnt seem that hard

anyway...all good so far..