Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - Avant

Elder daughter is on her fourth 1.3 Yaris which is coming up to 3 years old and the end of the PCP. She's a freelance nanny and earnings are low enough to need a reduction in her monthly outgoings.

Why not keep this Yaris (it's been totally reliable like the other three, but has done 52,000 miles)? Because she hasn't got £3,500 for the balloon payment - nor have I without running up a debt myself - and I'd prefer not to have her make repayments coupled with the possiblity of replacements and repairs as the mileage mounts.

We've tried an i10, and the1.2 Active has a nippy engine, an excellent gearchange and perfectly acceptable ride and handling - and as much room inside as a Yaris. The cost would be about £150 per month (for a new one) less than for another Yaris: the list price is about £4,500 lower.

Any views on what a Yaris can do that an i10 can't? We'v also tried a Skoda Citigo, but even the 5-door has less room for baby seats than the Yaris and i10, and was more expensive to buy.

Edited by Avant on 08/07/2012 at 20:42

Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - gordonbennet

Assuming the Yaris has been cared for and looked after, i'd suggest keeping it, i don't know how well you can borrow money Avant, but i expect with careful shopping a loan can be arranged for the balloon payment that is below the next cars repayment schedule.

A more substantial car than the Hyundai in my humble, though i understand how tempting the new car warranty would be.

In 3 years or sooner the Yaris will be hers, with continued good care and servicing i'd be very surprised if anything major failed on it before its 10th birthday, no more car payments, and it'll still sell well at 10 years if she doesn't want to run it into the ground...just look at 10 year old Yaris' for sale.

OK so there will be brake parts, possibly a new battery to buy in the next few years, neither of which sourced from a good factors will make anyone cough, simple and nice to work on too...edit...though is there a cambelt change to take into account?.

Stepdaughter has just paid her balloon off and now ownes her Aygo Black, cracking little car, and as she has found out to her pleasure (first Toyota) excellent dealers...next weekend i shall be soundproofing it and upgrading the sound system for her.

Edited by gordonbennet on 08/07/2012 at 20:56

Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - daveyjp
At 52,000 it isn't run in. An ex colleague has three children, all had a Yaris and each one did in excess of 100,000 with no major expense.

Due to boredom more than anything my wife would like a new car as her Aygo will be 6 at Christmas, but I know it will keep going so I intend keeping it. I also bought a new Bosch wiper blade for it today so she can keep it another year!
Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - KB.

You must surely have seen my occasional posts here and in another place and my recommendations that a prospective buyer goes to a particular owners forum which offers information from i10 owners who have have both good and bad experiences to report. If you (she) decides to buy one go in to the process with all the information to hand that has been gathered and discussed to the n'th degree. Having had two - both not entirely uneventful experiences - I have mixed views but they would extend to several pages therefore far better spend half an hour scanning through the pages relevant to your specific interest contributed by people with first hand knowledge. I've had a number of Yarii too (petrol/diesel/manual and auto) but not the latest incarnation so not strictly relevant but as with all things - you pays yer money etc......there's probably a reason why one costs more than the other. I'd confidently buy a Yaris but, as you say, they cost more. For the money, the i10 is probably unbeatable for for what they are and what you get (although check out and compare 3 years servicing costs with the Citigo). If you found the clutch and gearbox to be good then fine, but check out Hyundai's previous on that particular topic. Check out the supplying dealer for reputation - if you need him you want a good one. Mine is a good one and I'm grateful for that. Very grateful, in fact.

As you will know I also currently have a Skoda as well and am enjoying the, uneventful, ownership of it. I'm slightly surprised the Citigo wasn't big enough compared to the i10. I drove an UP! and would have thought they were very comparable sizewise...but you will have checked it out and that's that. And I agree they're dearer like for like (but again...you pays yer money....) I just happened to like it when I drove it. My Mrs. prefers the i10 to the Citigo for no other reason than she prefers the look of it. Most would disagree but that's neither here nor there. If it's simply down to costs and if the i10 figures add up then there you are. They're popular enough so can't be that bad with so many about. Best not get an automatic though but now that mine is sorted (see the review on this site which includes some of my own input) I'll keep it....I've got two free services now and her indoors likes it and I put four All Season tyres on it from new...so it would be silly to get shot right now. I just wince every time I fill the tank with petrol.....but it's only a little tank so it doesn't feel that bad.

Edited by KB. on 08/07/2012 at 23:42

Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - bear807
What sort of reg is the Yaris? 52000 miles I think is alright, but since you said the past 3 Yaris, so I assume you change car quite often? If this is the Trend maybe you should otherwise get another one. Are you intending to buy a brand new or used? For past month I have been shopping to get my used jazz, I have test all sorts of car and finally I'm settle with a new shape polo. You should try one of those, very mature solid little cars. You could get a 11reg s spec with 10-20k on clock for 8k from volkswagen dealer. It is not shown in autotraders or anywhere, check official used car site.
Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - Avant

Thanks for the replies. The question boils down to:

If Olivia is going to spend, say, £131 a month (better than the £241 for the Yaris), for which I'll probably sub her the excess over £100, how is it best spent?

(1) She could keep the Yaris for another few years, and set such an amount aside for an eventual deposit for its replacement. That is of course perfectly logical, and I agree that the Yaris will probably continue to be reliable. But I'm not sure what the tangible benefit is to Olivia over spending the same amount on a new car, particularly as she would have to add the cost of any replacements to this. And the balloon has to be paid off first.

(2) Spend the lower sum on a PCP for a cheaper - not necessarily worse - car, and save the extra cost (£110 a month in this example).

(3) Hand the Yaris back and buy a banger. She is not in the least mechanically minded and this brings risks that aren't worth taking unless we pay as much as the amount of the balloon (about £3,400). Although I trained as an accountant, I recognise that financial considerations, though vital, aren't the only ones involved in car buying.

At the moment I favour (2) but we haven't decided yet and I'm open to any more constructive suggestions.

Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - mark999

Our yaris is 12 years old and has had a hard life doing local runs (only 30k miles). Only had to replace suspension bushes, exhaust rear springs in that time. I know of another yaris of same age that ran to 165K before being dying (running on 3 cyls).Save your money and run it in to the ground.

We dove the i10 1.2 a few months baci I was very impressed for the price, it didn't have the feel of a car that would last like the yaris though.

Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - oldroverboy

My advice to you and Oilvia, (lovely name) is always to buy as new as possible, if not new,

Are there not some queries about clutch longetivity on the i10's?

Why not consider a NEW aveo £8995 purchase about the same as the i10 on pcp, My 6' 2" fits in well, tons of room, isofix fittings for baby seats, same 5 year warranty, and if it had the 1.7 diesel I would prefer it to the cruze! The 1.2 petrol is adequate, although my time on the goodwood hill won't set any pulses racing.

(My own problem is what do i replace the epica with, as for that money it has been excellent.)

A final remark, which may help in your choice, is that our new dealer treats swmbo as a priority customer, as she is a doctor, so in the event of needing a replacement vehicle they will find something. As Olivia needs the car for work, consider getting this noted.

Edited by OldRoverboy on 14/07/2012 at 08:57

Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - JOGON

We bought the i10 Classic about 18 months ago, (from an awfully unreliable Peugeot 107).

We range from 6'5" to 5'2" and i10 is fine.

Glad we opted for base model, has aircon and all you need, + plastic wheel trims, ideal for learner kids near kerbs.

Wing mirrors have been biffed twice when parked. The housing folded in (no damage) and the glass broke. Sounds expensive (I guessed £30)...but Hyundai clip fit replacement mirror was £11.

So a perfect city car with 1.2 engine for oomph / longer runs.

And most important, cheap teenage insurance and zero defect.

Feels very solid+5 door.

Edited by JOGON on 23/10/2012 at 19:36

Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - Avant

Update - Olivia went for an i10 1.2 Active: they were on special offer (list price down to £7695) and much cheaper on a PCP than another Yaris for a car that does the same job almost as well (only 5 gears, slightly less room but otherwise fine). She's very happy with it so far.

Good buying experience from Platts of High Wycombe - family-owned and much keener to sell (for the same price) than our local Hyundai dealer which is part of a chain.

Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - bintang

So that's that but I am surpised you found it as roomy as a Yaris. I found it far less so for the driver and harder of access but bought one anyway because of the excllent deal. This includes the first two years' servicing free.

Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - Neville 23

I have a diesel Yaris and a 1.2 Comfort i10. They are both extremely good cars, but my wife won't let my daughters drive the i10 because she says it is too flimsy should they have an accident. I'm allowed to drive it though.

Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - JOGON

New i10 due out this Autumn I think, this time made in Turkey (old one India).

Hyundai i10 - good substitute for a Yaris? - JOGON

Preview pics (undisguised) rare

but here's a shot from the new Turkish factor

http://www.reviewhyundai.com/hyundai-motor-manufacturing-plant-in-turkey-new-investment-to-boost-economy/