Million mile Mondeo taxi - John Boy

A feature on BBC News website today:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-18443992

Million mile Mondeo taxi - jamie745

I saw this a few days ago. Quite an achievement and further evidence to support my claim that car reliability peaked in the 90s and has decreased since. In the 90s cars had pretty much all the creature comforts on them you want, but were solidly built before the green wave really took hold.

Million mile Mondeo taxi - mikem004

You're right. It's all lights on the dashboard and return to the dealer nowadays.

Million mile Mondeo taxi - Coady1uk

'Triggers Broom' springs to mind.

Million mile Mondeo taxi - ChannelZ

'Triggers Broom' springs to mind.

Indeed. My Mk3 Mondeo was feeling very tired at 7yrs/72k (almost all town driving). I'd already replaced most of the suspension, clutch, driveshafts, wheel bearings, brakes, about £2k worth of repairs in the 2 years I had it.

Clutch was making signs of going again and the brake lines were corroded so needed done for MOT, so I got rid, I refused to spend any more on it.

Bought a 5 year old Astra with 66k on it, and it's in far better mechanical condition than the Mondeo was at 5 years old with 52k on it. Interior and bodywork is 200% better, too.

Million mile Mondeo taxi - jamie745

Oh here we go. The old fallacy of 'used Astra was better than used Mondeo so Vauxhall is better!!!'

The mk3 was a bigger, heavier car than the mk1 and you said it did 72,000 miles round town. This mk1 has done almost exclusively airport trips at 60mph for all its life, in other words exactly how a car likes to be used. I've seen a mk2 Mondeo with 600,000 on it, its hardly impossible.

Million mile Mondeo taxi - Avant

"....so Vauxhall is better."

Channel Z didn't actually say that, and was just reporting what he has found.

Million mile Mondeo taxi - jamie745

Potato Potarto.

In regards to the 'Triggers Broom' comment, what do really expect? Yes the chances are its been through hundreds of brake pads, discs, tyres, window wipers and maybe even a few batteries and plenty of bulbs, but that would apply to any car. So long as its not had entire engine rebuilds, significant welding or something else which suggests it should've fallen apart ages ago then I think it's done well.

Million mile Mondeo taxi - carl233

I tend to agree about cars on average being more durable in the 1990's. By the MK3 Mondeo durability in my humble opinion was not as strong as the MK1 or MK2 which were essentially the same package. The MK1 and MK2 Mondeo's are a solid car the Zetec-E petrol engines and noisy TD were all built to do very high miles when serviced as per schedule. My own MK2 has done 260k and still drives like a newish car.

Million mile Mondeo taxi - jamie745

In the 90s cars were just made to be cars, these days they're made to tick EU emission boxes. I'm not going to pretend every car in the 90s was brilliant, Vauxhall were making some dreadful guff in the 90s but generally we'd reached a point where we had the creature comforts and the car still worked. Cars weren't built to be as economical as humanly possible, or to be branded 'ethical' or to spend millions on fiddly engineering to shave £10 off its annual tax bill.

Take these 90s Mondeo's for instance, they weren't that economical, the engines weren't especially refined but they went and stopped. Even if something did go wrong it might actually be fixable, rather than requiring a Nasa engineer to decipher it.

Million mile Mondeo taxi - Collos25

Would you pay full price for taxi and end up riding in what is in reality an old banger,Is there not an age regulation on taxis and hire cabs in the UK,

Million mile Mondeo taxi - Roly93

Would you pay full price for taxi and end up riding in what is in reality an old banger,Is there not an age regulation on taxis and hire cabs in the UK,

You have a good point here, given the cost of airport cabs, I would expect to be driven in something half decent.

Million mile Mondeo taxi - jamie745

No there's not an age limit. Some companies have their own but if the vehicle meets all the requirement it can be granted a licence, irrespective of how old it is. There's plenty of 51 plate 406 diesels still being used where I am, this Mondeo isn't much older in truth.

Only in this country do we think anything over five years old is 'an old banger' and only in the UK are people stupid enough to think an 11 plate Vauxhall diesel is something 'half decent.'

Maybe they're not so stupid up north where he is and people would rather go in his car than walk.

Million mile Mondeo taxi - Roly93

Totally agree with whats said here. Its amazing what steady and carefull driving can do for a car as well as reasonably frequent oil changes. Not ever really cooling right down helps too.

For all of the diesel doubters out there this says that if you use them regularly they usually run trouble free, as opposed to diesels that are bought and pottered around town on short trips all of the time.

Million mile Mondeo taxi - carl233

I would not mind getting in a 15 year old plus taxi, rather than getting in a nearly new vehicle which likely means a space saver or no spare wheel, and in the event of a breakdown nothing can be fixed at the roadside which means recovery is needed. Why are new cars not judged on having a drivetrain that is proven for 200k plus? Rather than nice looking lights on the dashboard and lovely glossy literature that means it is the best thing since sliced bread.