Considering leasing for the first time - The Governor

Having had a few years on car loans and taking a hit each time I trade-in, I'm starting to consider leasing.

I've always been wary of it because I don't want to get raped at the end of the lease, I'd really like to find a genuinely reputable leasing company and I'd be really interested to hear from people who've gone through the end of their term with a company, I'm assuming everything is great when you get the car delivered as that's the easy bit.


What I'm much more interested in is what happens at the end, which companies approach it reasonably etc.

Very much interested to hear some real world experience there are a dizzying array of leasing companies out there!

Thanks

Considering leasing for the first time - oldroverboy

You will still take a "hit" because it won't be a lease to a company who can reclaim the vat, there are various other names like personal contract hire etc and you will pay a deposit and then a monthly rental and then at the end you will be limited in your mileage. swmbo has even decided NOT to get a car through her employer as the mileage conditions are onerous, or just too expensive if we add in our own personal mileage, but see if your employer can offer you this option. the nhs has a salary sacrifice scheme, and a lot of the local midwives use it. Final thing to look at is that the car will need to be in acceptable condition on return, but my brother in law has never had a problem with his motability lease cars despite minor scratches.

let us know what you do!

Personally after all my time in the trade I always bought my own cars, having an absolute minimum on finance when i had to, i think that the individual average driver is always going to lose, but either get something and run it till it dies, or get a car that doesn't depreciate a badly as the others, Finally please consider your usage ie short trips if you are buying a diesel are not worth it unless the system can regenerate, so think about your usage pattern,

Considering leasing for the first time - Man without a plan

Having had a few years on car loans and taking a hit each time I trade-in, I'm starting to consider leasing.

The only way I see to not "take the hit" is not to get a new car full stop...

Why not stick with the car you have just paid off at (presumably) 3 or 5 years old, it must still be pretty reliable and decent condition...?

I can't see how leasing over buying will save you taking a hit... you're paying for the depreciation of the vehicle either way.

Anyway if you must lease a car, I have just returned my two year old Smart ForTwo last week to Mercedes, although it was actually BCA that collected it and will presumably auction it straight off.

The guy collecting it checked it over with a fine tooth comb, the report he gave me stated it was all "ok" but I have heard horror stories of Mercedes coming back with a long list of charges for phantom repairs that were only spotted back at the inspection centre.

Since mine was only returned last Friday I am yet to see if that is the case with mine, but i'll certainly let you know.

Considering leasing for the first time - Man without a plan

Well what do you know..... after posting the above I got home tonight to find a letter from BCA / Mercedes Smart about my car...

As soon as I saw the franking mark, I thought "here we go..."

Imagine my surprise on opening to see that they confirmed that my car has been handed back in excellent condition, that they are perfectly happy with it and that I must have looked after it very well. It then confirms there are no additional charges and that my liability for the vehicle has now ended....

I take it all back.... haha

Considering leasing for the first time - Roly93

Having had a few years on car loans and taking a hit each time I trade-in, I'm starting to consider leasing.

I've said it before on the forum, IMHO leasing doesn't stack up for private individuals that dont for instance have a VAT registered business or do over 20K a year. You are still paying a lot to not own the car and have the illusion of a lot of free motoring costs.

It is still best to get the best loan you can and buy with the best deal you can and just look after the car in trhe normal way. To me the definition of a 'hit' is to spend say £18K leasing a car that never belongs to me.

Considering leasing for the first time - Man without a plan

I'm affraid I don't understand your thinking here...

If a car is £20,000 brand new and assuming it *should* be worth £10,000 after 3 years, then the PCP lease cost should be £10,000 over the three years....

By the same measure, buying the car outright for £20,000 should still leave you with a car worth £10,000 at the end of the third year....

So I don;t understand how you can say leasing would be more expensive than buying?

The other things that should be remembered is a) lease companies usually buy lots of cars and so get bulk discounts so an outright purchase of £20,000 may only see the lease set up based on a value of <£20k. and b) if you don't have the cash to buy a car outright and take a loan then you incur interest charges too.... you don't incur these on a lease car if you return it at the end of the lease period.

All of this assumes that the OP will keep the car for three years (or another defined period) regardless of whether he buys (and then sells at the end) or leases... Of course if he buys and then runs it for say 12 years it will be cheaper overall than leasing 4 separate new cars for 3 years each... but then you aren't comparing like for like.

Edited by Man without a plan on 21/03/2012 at 20:32

Considering leasing for the first time - zango
The reason lease prices are competitive is not just
1. The discount on buying on volume, but also because,
2. They can finance the cars at very low rates.

We are talking 2% rather than the 8% that you would get on a finance agreement. That is why a lot of lease companies are owned by banks.

Anyhow to get back to answering the question. I would not lease a car without a maintenance contract. The lease company will take no responsibility without it, even to the point of trying to ignore their legal obligation under English contract law. Basically you are taking out a supply contract for which both parties have responsibilities. Yours is to keep paying and maintain the car etc, theirs is to provide a vehicle of merchantable quality that is fit for purpose. If it's not then you
Considering leasing for the first time - concrete

Like many things it depends where you start from! My brother, who is a shrew man when it comes to money, reckons the very best way to get a car is to buy nearly new for cash. Then either change at the right time or keep it until it owes you nothing. The next best way is nearly new with finance. He would not consider leasing as a viable option,partly because once you stray over 10K miles per annum your eyes are taken out for mileage/depreciation. What he does is borrow from his savings, and then calculate the repayments at 4% over 3 years to replace the money. No interest to pay a finance company and a better savings return that any bank. If you don't have that kind of cash available then you cut your cloth and cut whatever deal you are comfortable with. Remember though, they don't lease you a car because they are nice people, they do it to make a profit. Think long and hard before getting locked into a longish lease you may regret. Let us all know what you decide and good luck. Concrete

Considering leasing for the first time - Falkirk Bairn

Former customer of mine used to leasepurchase (similar to HP) new cars of say £20K over 3 years. Monthly fees were high as he had many doing 30K per year....cars were of very low value with 90K on the clock.

With 50+ cars needed it was really expensive.

He switched to leasing ex-day rental cars of say 6 months old (£14K) - say 10K miles and running for 2 years - monthly charges were less and 2.5 yr old cars with say 70K were sellable for a reasonable amount as this was less than 100K and still had some warranty left on many cars which were under 60K miles.