Curse of Internet censorship! - down_smith

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Edited by Avant on 11/02/2012 at 18:13

Curse of Internet censorship! - tony g
No ,I don't see it as a curse .its subjective .censorship is necessary to prevent abuse of the Internet .

Do we really want to see paedophiles or terrorists disseminating their vile ideas freely on the Internet ,should we leave them to set up their own forums ?

On a smaller scale ,even on a forum like this ,censorship or if you prefer a moderator ,prevent worthwhile discussions degenerating into a slanging match .

An exchange of abuse serves no one ,no one is amused,educated,or informed ,surely that's the point of a forum like this .isnt it?
Curse of Internet censorship! - jamie745

Its just a spammer Tony, the OP is plugging other blogs in the other forums.

Curse of Internet censorship! - Avant

He is indeed. I've deleted the plug above, hidden the other two threads and disabled his account.

Curse of Internet censorship! I second the motion. - danleonida

You write "Do we really want to see paedophiles or terrorists disseminating their vile ideas..." My answer is NOP! But, I would much like to hear what other, 'normal' people have to say about them. Do you not agree?

Here's what's been happening to me, and I'm posting it as far and as wide As I know how. You may have seen the post elsewhere already.

Just want to know why is the "Jordanian militia" censored when other terrorist orgs, are not.

Is it too much to ask?

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I'm in Vancouver, Canada and some time ago I developed an interest in "Jordanian militia"

I searched for it and was very surprised by the very low numbers of hits I was getting from all engines I tried (Yahoo, MSN, Google, Blekko, Bing, etc., etc.!) I even got nothing from the CIA website and their World Factbook!!

I suspected Internet censoring and set out to prove it. I created and Excel file (almost 25 Mbytes which I'm willing to share/publish) in which I searched and recorded the hits (MSN, Yahoo, Google and some CIA) of almost 10k of the darnest things I could think of!

The "Jordanian militia" came in in the first percentile when the file was sorted in the order of increasing number of hits. I used the average hit counts from MSN, Yahoo and Google for the sorting. Its average hit-count was 18. Other odd ones: Rummedin Fayziddinovich Sharpov = 19, Magnanimous and Invincible Order of Blackmen = 21, Castrators of Russia = 844 (no joke!), Togo Pogo Stick Union = 41 (still no joke!), homemade thermonuclear device = 32 (serious as before!), etc., etc. for over 9000 times.

Of fewer than 'Jordanian militia' hits are three Guantanamo Bay alumni, one serial killer, 13 Malaysian poisons, 54 trade unions, two Christian Democratic parties, one hate group, two communist parties, six U.S. militias, four convicted ex-cult leaders, one suicide attack in Israel, two Norwegian fjords and a partridge in a pear tree! ;o)

I would very much want to find out if searches for “Jordanian militia” are similar elsewhere in the world. So...

If anybody reading the present post is willing to land a hand, I can be reached at danleonida-at-yahoo-dot-com, or on this forum. I started a campaign of forum posts, such as the preset one, yesterday and the results are already coming in.

I posted in the morning on this thread: cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=37616

My post was: cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=40296

By early evening my post was deleted and the whole tread was shadow-filtered (could only get to the thread via my own URL. The thread was NOT in the Forum Index! I understand why they shadow-filtered the thread. Cycling74 just writes software for artists! The thread just didn’t belong there! BUT… Why did they have to delete mine?! :o(

Please include the general location of the searches and a date, should you decide to land a hand.

If it's not too difficult, I would appreciate screenshot of the first page of search results to the email above. (Screenshots how to: The "Print Screen/SysRq" key in the upper right hand corner of your keyboard will place the screen - pixel be pixel - on the clipboard. It can then be pasted in MS Word, Excel, or what have you.)

Thx in advance and

c u –dan

P.S. The 25 Meg Excel file is clean, presentable, easy to navigate, includes screenshots of some of the “problems“’ I have encountered during the six months of work and the Excel file is Copylefted. Anybody is more that welcome to it, if desired. It even has a “Help Wanted“ tab already hyperlinked such that searches are only one click away.

Curse of Internet censorship! I second the motion. - Avant

A lot of so-called 'internet censorship' is moderators like me trying to ensure either that a forum stays relevant to its chosen topic, such as motoring or cycling, or that it doesn't descend into abuse.

I'll leave this one for the moment, as it's in the non-motoring section, but will watch it carefully.

Curse of Internet censorship! I second the motion. - concrete

A lot of so-called 'internet censorship' is moderators like me trying to ensure either that a forum stays relevant to its chosen topic, such as motoring or cycling, or that it doesn't descend into abuse.

I'll leave this one for the moment, as it's in the non-motoring section, but will watch it carefully.

To paraphrase a old adage; The price for peace (aka certain freedoms) is eternal vigilance.

True then and true now.

Cheers Concrete

[2] Curse of Internet censorship! I second the motion. - danleonida

I wouldn't call you a 'censor'! Your job is more of that of a school 'hall monitor'. Without you, half the posters would be busy convincing the other half to go elsewhere.

About it being in the 'non-motoring' section...

Ask yourself 'Is it hurting anybody or the motoring business?' If the answer is 'No!' and the price of storage bein what it is... Why not, I say?

Let me know if you, or the forum, want to have a look at may be real, dirty and dangerous Internet censorship.

The hits I'm getting in Canada in Yahoo and MSN seem to describe the 'Jordanian militia' as an organization friendly to the West.

Hits Google gives me from books they have already digitized, seem to be saying the above is anything but true! They are an unlisted terrorist organization closely related to the PLA, PLO and Al Qaida in Iraq!! The funny thing is that all them 'listed' terrorist groups don't seem to be censored at all! Go figure...

Please Disturb,

Not Disturbed Enough Yet!

Dan Leonida

Vancouver, B.C.,

Canada.

Edited by danleonida on 06/06/2012 at 04:58

Curse of Internet censorship! - danleonida
...prevent abuse of the Internet .

Have a look at zeropaid.com, forum, lounge, politics, danleonida.

Same subject as my post here about "Jordanian militia" only slightly more active and also includes posts of mine on further developments. I's got pictures and links, too! It mat intrigue you!

Please drop me a line if you go there and find the thread deleted/removed!

Be good and do disturb!

Not disturbed enough yet!

danleonida-at-yahoo-dot-com

Curse of Internet censorship! - Avant

Sorry - I've absolutely no idea what your point is. I won't hide the thread, but unless anyone has anything useful to add I'll lock it.

Curse of Internet censorship! - danleonida

Sorry - I've absolutely no idea what your point is. I won't hide the thread, but unless anyone has anything useful to add I'll lock it.

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/threads/64862-Jordanian-militia-is-censored-on-the-Internet-in-Canada!-WHY-WHY-WHY-Help-anyone If you still have "no idea" might as well close it, lock the door an, don't forget turn the lights off!

Please do disturb!

Not disturbed enough yet!

danleonida

Curse of Internet censorship! - Avant

I looked on that link which starts:

"I'm in Vancouver, Canada and some time ago I developed an interest in "Jordanian militia"

I searched for it and was very surprised by the very low numbers of hits I was getting....."

Sorry - I can't share your surprise! Thread locked.

Edited by Avant on 23/06/2012 at 01:02